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This didn't answer my question.

I was planning to purchase a 360mm AIO for my brother's birthday, and after comparing the assortment available at my webstore of choice with reviews and info online, I'm split between the H150i Pro from Corsair and the S36 from Fractal Design. On Corsair's site, the H150i isn't specified as compatible with my brother's case (a Carbide 540), but it does say the case supports 360mm rad in the front. All pics I see online of 360mm rad in front of the specified case show the rad with the ports on the bottom. This got me wondering if the tubes are long enough to reach to the CPU socket if they snake around the GPU in some way, or if that's not an option. The tubing length question also applies to the S36 AIO, of course.

Reposting this thread because I did not get any response (and since it's so far back in the archive I doubt anyone will respond). I've been rocking a B150 PC Mate from MSI for a few years now, with a somewhat aged processor that I've forgotten the name of. A few months ago, my brother gave me a bundle with a 6600K and Hyper Tx3i cooler for my birthday. Now while I have enjoyed the up in speed, I wish to speed it up further by overclocking. I know the B150 chipset is unideal for OC'ing, so I am considering a motherboard change. A friend has a nicely treated Z170A PC Mate I can get for just a few bucks if I want. I'm just curious about how the replacement would go, in terms of whether I have to re-install Windows, contact Microsoft etc. I've heard from one guy on another forum that this should work since it's just the chipset that's different, and they're both MSI and PC Mate. But I thought I'd ask here as well, just to be sure.

I've been rocking a B150 PC Mate from MSI for a few years now, with a somewhat aged processor that I've forgotten the name of. A few months ago, my brother gave me a bundle with a 6600K and Hyper Tx3i cooler for my birthday. Now while I have enjoyed the up in speed, I wish to speed it up further by overclocking. I know the B150 chipset is unideal for OC'ing, so I am considering a motherboard change. A friend has a nicely treated Z170A PC Mate I can get for just a few bucks if I want. I'm just curious about how the replacement would go, in terms of whether I have to re-install Windows, contact Microsoft etc. I've heard from one guy on another forum that this should work since it's just the chipset that's different, and they're both MSI and PC Mate. But I thought I'd ask here as well, just to be sure.

It's good to know you people do your job properly, both in terms of production and customer relations. Linus seemed to be happy with what you've done, so I was sure I would be equally happy with your help. And patience was not a problem, I still have quite some time before I'll send in an order. I just wanted to acquaint myself with the designing software early so I could work long and well on the design.

Well, then it seems I have got what I needed, for now at least. It's something to look forward to if the software does in the future get a template that accommodates the ledge for PCI cards to be screwed to. For now, I will have to make do with making my own bracket, but that should not be a big problem.

I believe that is the second line I have it on, not the first, though I do see what you mean. The screencap does not show it, but if one goes to either end of the base, there are three lines meeting at a point below the "back wall". One is perfecly horizontal, the two others go on an angle, which I thought was the perspective of the base. Here is another screencap, that shows a measurement of the distance between the bottom line (outside of the chassis) and the dot I used to align the PCI cutouts. I have compared it to the enclosure properties, and this distance is the same as the thickness I have set. Below this, I will add some screencaps of the current coordinate alignments of the PEM and PCI placement. All I need to know at that point is whether or not they are correct so it would work to screw standoffs into the PEMs, and then screw the motherboard to the standoffs. Explanations for the coordinates are in the notes in the bottom right corner of each screencap.

Okay, so from what I gathered, the center of the dot should align with the inside surface of the base, like in the screencap below. And that will place the IO and PCI slots in the correct height to fit with the height of PEM studs and screw-in standoffs stacked. This would also mean the X coordinate for the dots of PCI and PEM is the same, and both dots are aligned to the inside surface of the enclosure. Is all that correct?

Thank you for the response, @Protocase. I have now taken some time to get acquainted with aligning the PEM layout and PCI cutout, making sure the X coordinate for the green dots are the same, the Y for the PEM is to the inside, and the PCI dot's Y coordinate accounts for standoff going through the base. Everything seems to look fine, to me anyways. I believe I have gotten the help I seeked in this forum thread. The only thing I wonder about now is if the PEMs in the ATX group automatically come with a set height relative to the inside of the case. Since I do not see any way to specify the PEM height, I would assume I could just screw the motherboard into the PEMs?

It is nice to hear that dialogue with the engineering team is possible, as it makes for better decisions than a fresh consumer could make himself. However I am unsure about the flagging system being accurate, seeing as an unedited template for a "regular" ATX enclosure, with PCI and IO cutouts, and standoffs for the motherboard still gets flagged. When I made a crude sketch with cutouts and standoffs being way unaligned, no flags. That is the main reason I would prefer to be in dialogue. If by bent inward you mean at the top below where the cover would be, I don't find it to be in the way. But a spot to add screws for the PCI expansion cards, yes that is an issue. I made an attempt at making a flanged bracket to serve that purpose, but obviously it is not the most ideal solution. That might be of help. Although I think a bit more info in the documentation on placing the cutouts in the correct height, such as an example would be nice. On that note, I have taken another screencap, because I have noticed something more. I have added arrows to point at a dot and a line that show up in the face editor. I assume the line represents the motherboard. If that's the case, I could measure the distance between the line and the edge of the face, and use that to calculate what length of standoffs to use (factoring in base thickness). However the dot makes me wonder: is it a guide to get the right distance to something, or does it serve another purpose? That would be splendid, because I know not everyone is as patient and willing to make modifications as I am with this project. Long reply, I know, but there was quite a bit to address. But that is the benefit of speaking with an affiliate.

Thank you for helping out. From what I gathered in an advert for the software and association, it seemed like one could make a draft model, hand in and get evaluation/optimization to correct mistakes. If that's the case, I would get started once I get to know more about the motherboard cutouts and standoffs.

Hello, and thank you for your response. The article you linked does show some info about what I'm looking for. But while it shows what I assume is the right dimensions for the IO shield to be mounted, my main issue is finding out where to make the cutout for the "IO + PCI slots" combo, and aligning with the standoffs. I plan to have an ATX size motherboard in the back corner, with support for mounting graphics cards vertically (when the motherboard is horizontal). I will provide a screencap of the rough placement of cutout for PSU, motherboard IO and PCI slots, to illustrate what I mean. The exact position in millimeters is not final, just for the sake of demonstration.

It's really unlikely to ever happen, but I personally think it's an interesting idea, H0R53

So I've been meaning to try and design a rack case in the ProtoCase Designer software, and I am fairly pleased with what I am managing to do (experimented with cut-outs to practice and get a feel for it). However, I find placement of motherboard standoffs and cutouts for PCI and I/O challenging, because these are independent. I have tried transferring a template of a regular case with premade cutouts and standoffs into my model, but nothing shows signs of that working. So I tried reading the documentation about making an enclosure for motherboard-based systems. While I can understand most of it, I find the illustrations lacking, to say the least. So I was wondering if anyone else has experience with making such work in said software. Any sort of guidelines with or without illustrations (include a grid if you can) is appreciated.

I've had a Cooler Master Elite 430. Terrible for cable management if you're going for aesthetics.