Dumptaker

If you don't wanna OC the stock fan is probably fine. The spire fans actually are pretty good.

Yeah, give that a shot.

Well, my specs are a little different. I'm running a 1700 on a B350 prime with 2400 Flare X 16gb, with the RAM at 2666. I was able to get 3.9 with an "offset" of .0375 and I haven't had a crash yet - but I admit I haven't stress tested it yet cause I've been too busy. I also haven't aggressively pushed the OC because I'm waiting on my damn AM4 bracket from my Black Rock 3, but I would think that you should be able to get AT LEAST that much of an OC.

Well, it's a thing to download. Just check out the link - "they say" that it's now being included in the newest update, but I'd just download the power plan profile from the link and pop that into your OS. Apparently it makes a difference.

Thanks for doing the mem test. I'd bump up the RAM speed running the CPU at stock. Push the RAM to 3200 at 14 14 14 14 34. If you're stable there, then you know you got your RAM good. THEN gradually bump up your CPU. I seen someone do 3.9ghz at 1.395v. I believe the faster RAM should help with that overclock.

Yeah, like Sys error was saying, I'd check the RAM to see if you can get that stable. Also, what's your timing on your RAM? I thought the default on the Flare X was 2939 for the 3200 speed 16gb kit. i think that's supposed to be the baseline with timings at 16, 16, 16, 16, 39. You'd want to get the 3200 speed with cas latency at 14 14 14 14 34 I never heard of memory test, but I know a lot of guys use the aida64 stress test for memory. Not sure if that's free, but it works. Also, are you using the balanced Power Plan for Windows 10? If not here's a link to it: https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/04/06/amd-ryzen-community-update-3 Also, be mindful that the R7s add 20 degree temps to your read outs, so things like hardware monitor might show it at 80 when you're really at 60. I guess the idea was to fake out the system to kick up the fans.

Sorry but the Ram OC you did is a little confusing to me. Were you not able to get it up to 3200? I know the Infinity fabric is linked to the memory, so getting that as fast as possible could help with a stable 3.9

Hey ppl, Anyone try to put Flare X under a Black Rock Pro 3? Checked the specs and it looks like it should fit (barely), but I wanted to see if anyone had any experience with this.

Internet logic indeed. You've proved your own point. I think I'll just drop it at that. I think Mark Twain said, "never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Good point. Although, a similar example can be made about an r9 390. Maybe that's not "top tier" enough either. Yes, I do mean the other ones, since there's a adequate thing to address. 480's had shitty coolers (probably could call them heaters!) and I, along with many others, wanted to see how the AIB partner cards would do. As far as I know, not one AIB card has been reviewed in comparison to the reference model. I'm not suggesting somethjng ridiculous as reviewing every model, but to just state, "here's the newer model, and here's what we think." Of course, I don't run a tech channel so maybe it's none of my business. For context, here's the gamernexus video. It convinced me to get a 1060, specifically this model. So, I found it helpful.

Not sure where to file this, but I'm starting to think Linus Media Group has got a leaning for Intel and Nvidia. Gamernexus had a really informitive video about the MSI 480 gaming X compared to the 480. Yes, LTT hasn't done anything with it. Comparitively, I'm sure there's like 6 videos about 1080/1070. Just thinking out loud...

I agree with the above comment. If you're on this forum, chances are you're not afraid to do a little overclock yourself. Gaming "X", you're paying $20 for a factory tested Overclock. Personally, I saved the $20 and went with the MSI Gaming. Not in love with the Red/Black, but its a good, cool, and quiet card. ASUS Strix is Fing pricy. Screw that!

Dude, overall they are neck and neck. Performance wise I feel like it's not that different. What's 5-15 FPS back and forth between them, if you're upgrading either one will be better than what you already have. So, I'd invite you to choose based on needs. 1060 Pros 1060 Cons Runs cooler than 480 Stuck with a premium price on Gsync (if you use it) Higher clock rate and OC potential Usually Pricier Supports CUDA for some programs No native Asynchronous compute Having to support a shady company IMO RX 480 Pros RX480 Cons Best Price (AIB cards almost share 1060 price tho) Tends to run Hot FreeSYNC Doesn't support CUDA (if CUDA only programs are used) VULKAN/DX12 BADASS Comparably lower overall clock rate (having seen stable above 1.4ghz) The issue I saw was that pricing was similar in the US. MSI's 480 GAMING X is "going" to be around $265.00, while the same MSI 1060 is $289. Also, performance overall is nearly the same depending on the game. Personally, I went with 1060 becuase I need it for CUDA on Adobe CS 5, which doesn't support OpenCL. If it wasn't for that, I'd be a 480 all the way.

As far as performance goes, to be real the differences between the 1060 and 480 IMHO are not that big a stretch. 6-15 FPS sometimes. I'd base this decision more on YOUR use and not on a few extra FPS. For instance, you're using multi-monitor setup. AMD cards are BADASS in that department. Are you playing DOOM alot? RX 480 wins that one too. Is your monitor a Freesync or Gsync? Personal, I go/went for the 1060 only because my needs! I use adobe cc and older versions that don't support openCL, so I had to go for something with CUDA support. So, look at what you'd be using it for and base it off that.

Alright everybody, After exhaustive research and waiting for results of AIB cards for the 480 I think I can share my hard won info with you all. I've struggled to find what would be a decent performance card PRIMARY for Video Editing, with gaming as a SECONDARY. Lot's of people have lots of opinions, but ultimately it looks like the 1060 pulls ahead in this respect. 1) 1060 is a CUDA card, and although OpenCL has become much better in Adobe Premiere, it still is ENGINEERED with CUDA in mind. 2) 1060, although less CUDA/Stream cores, will have a faster overall card - many are hitting 2. GHz. whereas rs480 is can't top 1.4 Ghz 3) Similar pricing to RX 480 (AIB cards). MSI recently released their Twin Froz'r design RX480 GAMING X at around $265 whereas a 1060 of the same style is $279 I'm bummed because, in spirit, I'm an AMD guy. I would love to go for FreeSync and I prefer the Vultkan APi. But since my primary is Video Editing on Premiere. This is how I'm planning to go. Any thoughts? Clarifications? Need sources? Don't wanna let all this time in research go to waste on just me....