jerubedo

RTX Ultra with DLSS off and Extra Details off actually does the trick. I guess I can try it for a bit.

There's a few considerations here:
 
1) Games right now are using 4-6GB in 4k, but that's largely because consoles only have about 6GB of VRAM available to them in games (the other 2 is for the system and its various processes since VRAM is shared on both PS4 and Xbox One). Devs will absolutely eat up any and all resources given to them. PS5 and Series X will both have 16GB of VRAM. Believe me when I say we will see games using close to that! It likely won't be in any kind of optimized fashion, but that bring me to number 2:
 
2) Poorly optimized games. Some games will use more than 6GB of VRAM simply from being poorly optimized. Those games being "just poorly optimized examples and not representative"  doesn't hold as an argument because, well, if they're games you want to play then that's what you're stuck with, unless the devs fix optimizations, which I would not count on.
 
3) Textures are constantly improving. 8K is just starting to gain some traction (nowhere near mainstream of course). That's not to say that these cards are even capable of doing 8K gaming, but using 8K textures at 4K (effectively texture down-sampling) still yields a nice uplift in quality, and that will eat up VRAM.

Hey jerubedo,
 
I have been thinking a lot about Intel as for right now, as I built a second machine recently I thought a lot about the i7 9700K and i9 9900K facing the current Zen 2 and trying to find somewhere balanced and monetarily wise enough to those who want to go team blue but retaining value.
 
I came to the conclusion that neither the i7 9700K nor i9 9900K represents this value I was seeking but actually the locked i9 9900.
 
Here is the situation, we all know the i5 9600K is no longer viable because it has been maxing out on the CPU demanding titles and the imminent launch of new consoles generations by the end of 2020 turning gaming 8 cores optimized the i5 has no life in it and in this case the R5 3600 is a better pick every time.
 
But what about the i7 9700K? we seen it has been nearly maxing out as well, take games like AC Odyssey which is fairly representative of future AAA are showing it:
 
While the i7 9700K manages to drive the 2080 Ti today that 94% utilization average in there is worrisome, throw some multi-tasking on the mix or the upcoming games being able to further utilize 8 cores soon and by next year the 2080 Ti will be a 3080 and we'll have a new top end GPU around which is likely to actually be bottlenecked by the 9700K.
 
All of this shows the better purchase today for longevity is a 8c/16t making the R7 3700X a better choice.
 
But we don't want AMD, we want Intel and that last bit of higher gaming performance thanks to Ring Bus, what to do while still making a value purchase? That's where the locked i9 9900 comes in:
 
The CPU itself is cheaper, usually more than 50 dollars cheaper, the processor will work on any Z chipset motherboard so you can cheap up on it getting the most inexpensive Z370/Z390 you can find and still BCLK the chip,  cooling? I can tell you a beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim sufficed for me so no need for 100 dollars Plus AiO's.
 
The idea you MUST overclock is really dead nowadays even then I was able through BCLK to get the i9 9900 clocked at a locked 4.75ghz all cores which is enough and then we get more Cache and the Hyper-Threading for that far bigger breath of life... I mean on the example above the 9900K shows exactly 50% usage instead of 94%, that means a whole lot more room for multi-tasking and "future-proofing" for tomorrow's 8 cores optimized games.
 
So the situation here is that for the same price if not cheaper you may be getting a better performance per dollar and counter AMD more effectively as legit alternative route to Zen 2.
 
What do you think? wanna give it a more in depth look and reconsider Intel recommendations?

Here's what I'd do for your gaming rig. You'll be hard pressed to find better performance:
 
PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $359.00 @ B&H CPU Cooler Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $139.89 @ OutletPC Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $169.99 @ Amazon Memory OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $66.99 @ Newegg Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $94.99 @ Amazon Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card $699.99 @ Amazon Case Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case $89.98 @ Newegg Power Supply BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $75.99 @ SuperBiiz Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.89 @ OutletPC Monitor AOC AG241QX 23.8" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor $229.99 @ Walmart   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total (before mail-in rebates) $2046.70   Mail-in rebates -$20.00   Total $2026.70   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 03:27 EDT-0400    

This should do the trick:
PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $362.00 @ Amazon CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/Green) CPU Cooler $35.39 @ OutletPC Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $179.89 @ OutletPC Memory Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $89.99 @ Adorama Video Card XFX - Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card $399.99 @ B&H Case Corsair - SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case $74.99 @ Newegg Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $74.99 @ Amazon Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $105.89 @ OutletPC   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total (before mail-in rebates) $1473.12   Mail-in rebates -$60.00   Total $1408.12   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-22 04:00 EDT-0400    
OR, if you don't care too much about CPU overclocking, then this is what I would do for sure:
 
PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel - Core i7-9700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.99 @ Amazon CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/Green) CPU Cooler $35.39 @ OutletPC Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $129.28 @ OutletPC Memory Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $89.99 @ Adorama Video Card XFX - Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card $399.99 @ B&H Case Corsair - SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case $74.99 @ Newegg Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $74.99 @ Amazon Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $105.89 @ OutletPC   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total (before mail-in rebates) $1350.50   Mail-in rebates -$20.00   Total $1325.50   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-22 04:01 EDT-0400    
For both builds, the eSports ONE cooler is better than the Hyper 212 Black, and it performs pretty darn close to the Noctua D15 in terms of cooling performance. The 5700 XT in both builds will perform better than the 2070, and the 660p is a great value 1TB M.2 SSD. The SPEC-DELTA tower provides decent enough cooling with RGB. The G2 550w is more than enough and it's a great PSU quality-wise. I kept in as many RGB components as I could per your request, including the RAM.

with all taken into consideration, this is what i would suggest.
 
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: *ASRock - X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: *Hitachi - Deskstar 7K2000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($38.88 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card  ($414.99 @ B&H) 
Case: *Deepcool - MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1032.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-20 16:32 EDT-0400
 
X570 mobo
32GB of ram, imo 3200MHz is not worth the $$ yet, you can easily OC the 3000Mhz kit to 3200MHz.
a 1TB HDD is NOT enough for Game Library + other storage and backups. My game library is already over 1TB, and i have like 20% of my games installed.
Decentish PSU (dont cheap out that is what will set your house on fire)

The 3400g gets my vote then 

Yep, I'd agree with all of that  

Oops, I just noticed you posted in pounds, not dollars. Here's an update for UK pricing:
 
PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £190.00 @ AWD-IT Motherboard MSI - B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £71.99 @ CCL Computers Memory G.Skill - Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £119.12 @ Amazon UK   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total £381.11   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-19 20:56 BST+0100    
Unfortunately the RAM is a little pricier over there.

Easy peasy:
PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.00 @ Amazon Motherboard MSI - B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.99 @ Amazon Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $124.99 @ Newegg   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total $408.98   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-19 15:52 EDT-0400   I chose the MSI board there for the flashback feature (flash your BIOS without a CPU), but if you already have a last gen Ryzen, I'd go with the Asrock Pro4 instead for cheaper.

Easy peasy:
PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.00 @ Amazon Motherboard MSI - B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.99 @ Amazon Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $124.99 @ Newegg   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total $408.98   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-19 15:52 EDT-0400   I chose the MSI board there for the flashback feature (flash your BIOS without a CPU), but if you already have a last gen Ryzen, I'd go with the Asrock Pro4 instead for cheaper.

PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor $209.25 @ shopRBC Motherboard MSI - Z370M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $123.79 @ Amazon Canada Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $74.99 @ Newegg Canada Storage ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $37.99 @ Canada Computers Storage Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Newegg Canada Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING AMP Video Card $439.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop Case Thermaltake - Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case $46.99 @ Amazon Canada Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $64.99 @ Canada Computers   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total (before mail-in rebates) $1057.98   Mail-in rebates -$10.00   Total $1047.98   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-13 22:42 EDT-0400    

There's nothing to be confused about, no worries. The D15 is one of the best. It will out-perform almost all the AIO coolers, period. There's plenty of reviews showing it getting lower temps vs the H80, H100, H100i, H110i, etc. The only AIO that can beat it in terms of raw performance and quietness would be the H150i (since it's a 360mm heatsink), and even then it's only by a little. So, fret not!

This is what I'd do:
PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor €396.00 @ Globaldata CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports CPU Cooler €29.90 @ Globaldata Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard €182.90 @ Globaldata Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €90.40 @ Globaldata Storage Crucial - MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive €132.90 @ Globaldata Video Card XFX - Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card €439.90 @ PCDiga Case Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case €49.90 @ Globaldata Power Supply Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply €79.90 @ Globaldata   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total €1401.80   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-13 21:22 CEST+0200    
The 9700K is still the king chip for gaming (tied with the 9900K), the 5700 XT is on par with or better than the 2070 super depending on the title tested for a lot less, and I've made some savings oriented cuts on other parts as well without sacrificing quality or specs.
 

It has bios flashback.

This should do the trick nicely:
 
PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $263.99 @ PC-Canada Motherboard MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard $129.50 @ Vuugo Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $74.99 @ Newegg Canada Storage Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $129.94 @ Mike's Computer Shop Video Card XFX - Radeon RX 5700 8 GB Video Card $454.99 @ Newegg Canada Case Corsair - SPEC-05 ATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ Canada Computers Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $64.99 @ Canada Computers Monitor BenQ - GW2270 21.5" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor $99.99 @ Canada Computers Monitor MSI - Optix MAG241C 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $249.99 @ Newegg Canada   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total (before mail-in rebates) $1538.37   Mail-in rebates -$20.00   Total $1518.37   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 20:59 EDT-0400    

Awesome your the best ! Thanks homie 

Why? der8auer OC'ed his 9900k using a Noctua cooler in that youtube vid I posted and as I said before he's a champion overclocker so he knows what he's talking about.
 
Also Linus has a video showing how the noctua beats any AIO with a 240mm or less rad in thermals and noise.

What nonsense is this? The top of the line air coolers cool BETTER than most AIO coolers with the exception of the H150i, which cools about 2% better. The D15 will provide better cooling than an H110i.

If Der8auer says it's okay then it's okay.
 
Also Linus has a video showing the Noctua destroying every AIO that is 280mm or less in both thermals and noise. The only time it wins is when the aio has a 360mm rad and that's only marginally for almost double the price.

What nonsense is this? The top of the line air coolers cool BETTER than most AIO coolers with the exception of the H150i, which cools about 2% better. The D15 will provide better cooling than an H110i.

Nope, it'll be fine.

If you won't be doing any productivity work like rendering or 3D modeling, etc., then the 9900K is still the king for gaming. It might be worth waiting for the 2080 super, as it supposedly will perform pretty close to a 2080 Ti for $700, plus it has ray tracing dedicated hardware, but if you didn't want to wait until the end of the month, the 5700 XT is also a compelling value right now. Although, your budget actually does allow for the 2080 Ti, which is slated to remain the best, so what I'll do is add that in and have you decide on what GPU path to take:
 
PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $479.99 @ Walmart CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $87.99 @ OutletPC Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $179.99 @ Amazon Memory OLOy - 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $63.99 @ Newegg Storage Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $94.99 @ Amazon Storage Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.88 @ Amazon Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING Triple Fan Video Card $1133.48 @ Amazon Case DIYPC - VisionII ATX Mid Tower Case $53.99 @ Newegg Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $89.89 @ OutletPC   Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts     Total (before mail-in rebates) $2260.19   Mail-in rebates -$20.00   Total $2240.19   Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-09 15:05 EDT-0400    
 

If a task wants to "get through" then it has to get in the back of the shortest line regardless, unless the task is time sensitive in which case an interrupt can be called to put that task through first. That isn't something you typically want to do, but it is done on occasion. So it's either get into one of the slower moving 8 lines, or into one of the faster moving 6 lines. And if the interrupt is called, which is the equivalent of cutting the line, then either would be just as fast.
 
That's exactly why 1% lows and 0.1% lows are generally better on the 6c/6t part compared to 4c/8t parts.
 
Yes, I'm not denying that 4c/4t is becoming an issue. But 6c/6t is not, nor do I see it becoming an issue anytime soon. But I suppose we can agree to disagree on that point. It's all we can do since neither of us have a time machine or crystal ball lol.

Yes, 4c/4t are showing SOME weakness, although largely still OK in a majority of games. And yes 6c/6t will be next, but again, WHEN? By your logic we could say that buying ANY CPU is a trap because one day their performance won't be good enough. Being a programmer myself, I can pretty confidently say that games in general will always be lightly threaded. There's a lot of logic that requires variables to be locked (which means that that specific chunk of logic MUST be single threaded, or multithreaded but the other threads will need to wait). Simulations can be ran on the extra threads, which is why big open world games tend to favor more threads nowadays, but traditional games will always suffer from being lightly threaded because of the nature of coding, something that most people don't grasp because they've never done coding.
 
That's not how it works. Yes, you have more pipelines, but those pipelines are only moving at a fraction of the speed they would if it were 1 thread per core. Imagine Disney World. You have a rollercoaster with 6 individual lines (one for each cart). Then you have another rollercoaster with 4 carts and 8 lines, and on that ride, they launch a second set of carts when the first one is 3/4 of the way through the track. The people waiting in one of the 6 lines are going to get into a cart faster, always. The people waiting in 8 lines for 4 carts have to alternate when they get into a cart, despite the fact that there are two sets of carts, and they move slower overall. That's exactly how it works. So yes, more people can fit into the 8 lines, but they aren't going anywhere fast!
 
Mathematically, the 4 cart roller-coaster with 8 lines is moving 5 people through the ride for each track completion (4 people make it through the entire track, and another 4 people make it 1/4 of the way through the track, making it an average of 5 people completing the track).
 
The 6 cart roller-coaster is simply moving 6 people for each track completion. 
 
Now convert all of this back to computing terms. The people are the data, the track is a CPU cycle, the carts are cores, and the lines are threads.