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3 hours ago, IkeaGnome said:

In my opinion, probably not worth the extra cost. Here's a head to head on DDR4 and DDR5 though with some workstation tasks.

 

Thank you! Yeah I doubt I'll actually notice a 4.5% increase. And I definitely won't even get that much with a 12700K. Not sure if he's talking timeline playback or encode speed, but I guess it doesn't matter at this point.

Is DDR5 6000MHz worth an additional $177 US (including motherboard) compared to DDR4 3600MHz? This PC will be used for gaming, streaming, and editing & color grading 4K ProRes 422HQ footage. I'll use Premiere for editing and Resolve for color. Is it at least worth having that motherboard for whenever DDR5 matures?

If I do go DDR5, I may have to wait an additional 2 to 4 weeks because paycheck(s). And with gas prices recently spiking almost overnight, I'm worried PC prices all prices will inflate soon, and my 2-4 weeks may become more like 2-4 months.

Does anyone know a good Teleprompter app for iPad? And if someone who works at LTT is reading this, what app do you guys use? The company I work at uses Teleprompt+ 3 and I hate it more than anything in the known universe.

On 2/28/2020 at 11:29 AM, Thanatopsis said:

I do not have enough experience with it but the Sony Vegas bundle has a Blu-Ray authoring software on it.  I have intentionally skipped making menus with it as I don't want to deal with Blu-Ray authoring professionally anymore but i know the software supports it along with Soft Subtitles and Closed captioning.

Thank you! We may start that free trial soon.

What if Taran and iJustine raced again except with DaVinci Resolve? Could be a funny video. I've noticed a lot of people switching to Resolve lately. Also, I'm just assuming neither of them have tried it yet..

Now that Adobe discontinued Encore, what's the best way to create professional DVD and Blu Ray menus? I know it's kind of a dated thing, but it's what many of my clients want. I think Adobe really jumped the gun on this one.

Hey, I'm also a video editor. My short answer is, of those choices, go Dell. My dad's video production company uses Dell and he won't stop singing their praises. It's really annoying. Also give Obsidian-PC a look. They're based in Portugal, and although I know next to nothing about Bulgaria, they might be cheaper for you. After my experiences with HP and MSI, I'm only looking at re-sellers now (HIDevolution, Obsidian, LPC Digital, etc.).

The most important things for video editing are your i7 quad core (since nobody makes laptops with 6 or 8), at least 16 gigs of ram (32 if you can afford it), and a half-decent video card (1050/1050ti will get the job done; 1070 or 1080 recommended because of the vram). Thunderbolt 3 is also a great perk, but its absence isn't a deal-breaker.

I owned an HP Envy laptop back in 2012, and I hated it. It didn't even last 2 years before the motherboard exploded. I'm not editorializing. A diode on the motherboard exploded, and it never worked again. Also the Blu-Ray player never worked, even after I sent it out to get fixed. I now own an MSI Dominator model, and I hate it too. If it worked like it's supposed to then it'd be great, but it gets production-stopping problems at the worst times. I had the keyboard stop working not even 6 months in, one of the SSDs fails every now and then and won't boot, and now the battery won't charge. Also, I have to pay for shipping (my way) when getting warranty work done. The price tag and components are premium, but the quality control and customer service feels budget-class.

Taking the 17" to class is kind of a pain. At first I figured, "It's not a big deal, I can handle a heavy backpack," and yeah I was right about that part. But I didn't think about the desk space that it takes up, meaning all of it, and sometimes more.

Hey, I'm also retiring my GT72! Piece of crap has already had 3 RMAs in 1.5 years. So I'm clearly never going MSI again.

I've decided on a Clevo, probably from HIDevolution. I find it extremely difficult to find negative reviews of them. It's between them and LPC Digital, who's a little cheaper.

Galm's pinned post at the top of this Laptops and Pre-Builts forum has been tremendous help to me. I'll leave a link at the bottom here if you're interested

I'm saving up for an HID laptop, Clevo chassis, and I just need some guidance choosing the best SSD for me, and the number of options are a little overwhelming. There's video editing in my future, so I've already decided on NVMe. I'm thinking about the Samsung 960 Pro because I've had a bad experience with reliability in the past, but holy hell that's A LOT more expensive.  My wallet wants to just settle for the "HIDevolution Approved" option, but my paranoia says to go all out so I don't have to worry about it. Reliability is far more important to me than marginal performance differences. I guess my ultimate question is this:

Is the 960 Pro worth the price in terms of reliability, or could I get the same thing with the least expensive option, or is there a sweet-spot somewhere in the middle?

Thanks! That's not the answer I wanted, which probably means I should really pay attention.

OK, let's say I'm editing a feature film (about 90 min), shot on a RED at 4.6K, 24fps, and (idk if this would be relevant) a CGI Bigfoot has about 6 minutes of screen-time. Would 3000 Mhz make a significant (or even noticeable) difference while scrubbing than 2400?

Also, are there other areas aside from scrubbing where RAM speed has a noticeable impact?

How much does RAM speed matter in video editing? I primarily use Premiere Pro, sometimes Avid. Footage ranges from anywhere between 1080p from a Canon DSLR (T3i, T4i, etc.) to 4.6K footage or higher from a RED, or Black Magic, or ARRI, etc (I guess that's most of the spectrum..). 

2 hours ago, D2ultima said:

> good stuff

> MX-4

 

LUL

 

No, it really is not the good stuff. AS5 and Arctic Ceramique 2 are better, far less GC Extreme and IC Diamond. MX-4 is trash-tier, but for some reason very popular. It also only works on high mounting pressure heatsinks, otherwise it pumps out/evaporates.

 

Thermal paste is not a gimmick. But it may be depending on where you buy it from. $35 for ICD repaste is... less than optimal. You could buy yourself a tube of ICD, a decent multi-bit screwdriver set, and a bucket of KFC with that budget, and you'd be able to get the same paste on. But that requires taking the thing apart, so you're more paying for convenience. Of course, some places like Eurocom, Mythlogic, HID, etc use IC Diamond as a standard paste, so the extra payment isn't necessary (though their prices are higher than Sager).

 

If you're buying a Clevo socketed model (P7xxDM2, P870xMx), there's only two places you should be buying them from. HIDevolution (US & worldwide; has Prema mod) and OBSIDIAN-PC (EU/UK, no Prema mod). Yes, only those two places in the world. Because these places delid the CPUs with liquid ultra inbetween the IHS and die, and use optimal thermal pad placement for best cooling on the GPU heatsinks, have the best selection options, and give you the best out of box experience possible. You could of course get it from another place and do all the fixes manually (like I have had to do; still waiting on my thermal pads actually to finish the cooling upgrade process) but I suspect you aren't comfortable with delidding your CPU and whatnot.

 

If you're buying the BGA (soldered) models (P6xxHx) then the place you buy them from matters much less; the machines don't need delidding or any special thermal pad placements to keep themselves cool. I'd still suggest liquid metal on the CPU, which you can get from GentechPC or HIDevolution, though HID will offer the Prema mod and Gentech will not.

 

Prema mods are jesus. You want them if you like even a little control over a system at the BIOS level and for it to be nice and up to date with all the latest fixes from intel etc.

 

MSI and Alienware need repastes done manually. Don't bother getting them from sellers.

 

ASUS needs repastes BADLY. I've heard of 10c drops just repasting with normal paste there. The problem is most of their laptops take so much effort to take apart that it's often a 2-hour endeavour. I'd suggest taking it from a reseller site like XoticPC or HIDevolution or Pro-Star computing if you see it as an option, because you DAMN WELL DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

 

If you thought ASUS was bad, Gigabyte is worse. 20c drops reported from adjusting paste. I would also only buy Gigabyte's Aorus models if you had to buy a gigabyte, and they're only useful if you need something to be thin and function at stock clocks. I would take them from GentechPC and get the Liquid Ultra upgrade (it's $0.01 for it, at least as of now) and they'll function decently. Just don't overclock them.

 

Everyone else makes too weak machines to make sense buying for a serious video editor.

 

Also, since I mentioned "clevo" throughout this, I should clarify. Clevo is the ODM that makes the machines that places like OriginPC, Digital Storm, Falcon Northwest, iBuyPower, Sager, Mythlogic, HIDevolution (EVOC systems), Eurocom, etc buy and rebrand. So the EON17-X 10 from OriginPC IS the NP9172/NP9173 from Sager, which IS the 17.3" Harker from Digital Storm, etc. Same system. As I said before, I would only buy the socketed CPU models from HIDevolution and OBSIDIAN-PC, however I want to specifically state that it's an especially bad idea to get them from Origin PC or Digital Storm or iBuyPower. If you must go a cheaper route, then Sager (through LPC-Digital) or Eurocom (with student discount) is a much better idea.

Thanks! I've actually never heard of HIDevolution or OBSIDIAN-PC, so I'm definitely going to check them out. Very helpful knowing about who actually de-lids. 

3 hours ago, Galm said:

So OP, what laptop are you looking to get?

In a nutshell, I want a fat 15", the most reliable one I can find, with great support. Finding the right specs really isn't hard anymore. i7 7820HK or 7700K or respective Skylake versions. GTX 1060 or 1070 (I'd love a 1080, but I'm having a hard time justifying the $400 price hike). SD card reader is a must, and Thunderbolt3 is highly preferred. No thin & lights; I had one once and the motherboard blew up (I'm only half-joking here).

    So that Clevo model that matches Origin's EON15-X is great. I half considered Alienware until I discovered they ditched SD card readers  Basically I'm incredibly cheesed at my 3 RMAs in 1.5 years for my current MSI Dominator model and I'm really looking for something I can count on. My Dominator really dominates at f*cking up at the worst possible moments, like the day before a shoot. It's the little things I'm trying to find out, the idiosyncrasies of owning a certain brand that you won't find on any spreadsheets. I've pretty much given up on major brands like ASUS, MSI, Alienware, Dell, etc., and I'm committing to a boutique builder. So far I'm getting a lot of great help finding the right one on these LTT forums  

10 minutes ago, mikat said:

The good stuff like MX-4 makes a difference but idk what they use.

Buying it yourself and reapplying the cpu cooler would be the best option though

That video was extremely helpful, thank you!

Sager uses IC Diamond, Digital Storm has a picture of IC Diamond but doesn't explicitly state what they use, and Origin PC uses GELID GC-Extreme.

Dave Lee did a good video for Macbooks.

I've noticed boutique builders like Origin PC, Digital Storm, and even Sager (are they technically considered a boutique builder?) offer optional premium thermal compound on their laptops for the CPU and/or GPU for about $35 each. Is this a gimmick? It feels like a gimmick.

(Keep in mind I'm also a video editor, so my CPU temps go bonkersville on a regular basis.)

10 hours ago, Pendragon said:

Firstly no. Secondly it's a Clevo P750DM2 that Origin overprices to hell and back. What's your budget and I can find the same laptop far cheaper with better service. All of Origin's laptops are Clevos or MSI whitebooks. They overprice them for no reason and support from Origin is meh. Avoid. 

Thanks, I'll look at Clevo a little more closely. And Sager's 15" is looking promising, so thanks to nerdslayer1 for pointing me there. That's interesting though, because I've actually heard that Origin's customer service is really good. After the nightmare I've had with MSI (3 RMAs in 1.5 years), then I'm willing to pay extra for good support and reliability. I've also looked at Digital Storm, but my God, if you think* Origin is overpriced..

7 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

+1 to this.

I carry a gaming laptop to school, and it's a pain in the ass.

 

battery life is quite shit (50Watt-Hour battery powering a 6700HQ + 965M), it's heavy AF, the gamery aesthetic looks bad in a classroom, and it doesn't have cool things like a touchscreen, which actually makes my life harder.

I know from experience too. I just don't see any way around it, especially when I need power on-the-go for my job. 

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

you're carrying a "gaming laptop" to school? that thing weigh a lot just make sure you know what you are getting yourself into. 

I do. Actually, last time I went to school I had a 17" MSI Dominator model, so comparatively it'll be kind of easy, "kind of" being the key words. But it's a compromise I'm willing to make if I'm to continue wedding videography. Plus I don't trust thin & lights for my workload. I had one before and it overheated and died.

6 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

it "only" has a 1070 but i would say go for it but have you looked at Sager NP9873, if you are going for a "laptop" might as well for gtx1080. 

I love it! I've thought about it a lot though, and since I'm going back to school then I'm pretty much committed to a 15".

Does anyone have experience owning a laptop from Origin PC? I'm highly considering the EON15-X. I know what specs I want, so I'm looking for little details on what it's like to own and operate one, details I won't find on a spec sheet, like what customer service is like, how it feels to type on, will I void the warranty if I open it up and change the RAM or if I overclock it? etc. As far as usage goes, I'm a gamer (not exactly hardcore, but definitely not casual), aspiring game designer, computer science major, and most importantly a video editor using Adobe Premiere and sometimes Avid.

This may come across a little harsh, but my experience with MSI is rocky at its best. Don't get me wrong, my GT72 is an absolute pleasure to use when it works, but their customer service is a nightmare. If you need to get it fixed, you'll have pay for RMA shipping even while under warranty! I've had 2 RMAs in my first 9 months, one being the whole system because 3 keys on the keyboard decided to stop working (leaving me without a computer for a month), and the other was a faulty power brick. Also, right out of the box I had (and still have) some terrible backlight bleed. I thought they'd fix that too on its first RMA, but they didn't.

MSI might give you a better cost-to-performance ratio, but from what I've seen, they're not ashamed to cut corners. If I could go back, I'd just pay the "ASUS tax" if it meant better reliability.

However, if you're an experienced modder and know your way around the guts of a laptop, then MSI would be a great choice.

And keep in mind that, for the most part, this is just my experience. I'm sure other people have much better luck than me and get a perfect system right out of the box.

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

I did google it.

It's just MSI third party software that just gives you profiles for precalibrated settings.

Why you would want "gamer" profiles and stuff like that, idk.

 

Never heard of anyone switching profiles for different kinds of work, that just sounds ridiculous.

Professionals calibrate their displays and leave it that way. They don't try to boost colours and increase brightness and the stuff the MSI software does.

Once you have a calibrated display, you leave it like that permanently for everything, because that is what it is supposed to look like all the time.

 

And yes, windows has colour calibration settings which is the same thing just without 6 profiles.

 

 

Oh and btw the "100% srgb" colour calibration claims are just marketing, not actually true irl.

It's usefulness is not the point of this discussion. I like it, I use it, and I want it back. If you can't help me, then leave me alone.

17 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

He really didn't though, I've been on the forum a lot longer than you so I know when he is intentionally being a dick or just being his normal blunt self. Reacting the way you did doesn't really help in discussions either so I would recommend trying to stay level headed. Too many topics get locked by mods because of knee jerk reactions. Anyways, hope I helped .

You have, in more ways than one. Thank you

5 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

Chill dude, he didn't know what it was and he is usually just a blunt person. He didn't mean anything bad by it.

Look, thank you for your help. I really do appreciate it, and I'm not just saying that. But he insulted me and tried to make me look like an idiot, so I responded. I'm sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable.

43 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Why he is using third party software for something that is built into windows, I don't understand.

Maybe you should Google it before you talk shit.