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It was the dumb scam where they promised to send twice as much back. It's unfortunate that people didn't see this as an obvious scam even if it was coming from a verified account.

I would be surprised if this was anything other than a placeholder page. Companies do this all the time before actually knowing the price or release date of a future product. If the pricing is correct (and it does seem reasonable) it's likely due to an accurate guess more than anything.

I'm so glad that more epaper display watches are coming out. I loved my Pebble watches and was hoping for a more premium watch to come around with an epaper display. Hopefully the software isnt garbage. Edit: the website states that it's only Bluetooth 4.2, which seems like an odd decision in late 2019.

Just as a heads up, the usb cable that came with the Quest is USB 2.0 and Oculus Link requires a USB 3.0 cable.

I'm pretty bummed about this news but I'm not surprised. I thought eagle prime was cool, but only cool enough to watch the occasional YouTube video on it; not enough for me to want to see it in person or pay money to watch videos about it which I'm sure is the opinion of many people.

Thank you for better explaining your thoughts. Steel vs plastic definitely has trade-offs with weight and strength but personally, I think the case weight isn't too much. It's only around 7lbs (empty, but including the weight of the stand) which I find to gives the case a strong quality feeling without being difficult to transport. I've had no issues with putting my case in a laptop bag when taking it to parties. Plastic injection moulding being cheaper than steel is only true if the tooling has already been made. If the Sentry 2.0 had custom plastic pieces the price would be significantly higher to make up for the cost of the tooling. There's a reason that the most of the more popular community based case manufacturers (NCASE, DAN, and NFC for example) use aluminum or steel construction. I don't think that the Sentry 2.0 needs to be significantly smaller than the Node 202 for it to justify the cost; I think those two things are unrelated to each other. I wanted a case that was as small as possible while still fitting a reference size GPU and not needing a power brick. The fact that I can put my computer case in a laptop bag and have a case with the steel construction is enough of a reason for me to justify the increase in price. The Node 202 is ~50% larger which is enough of a size increase to make it more difficult to fit into a laptop bag or backpack. I still don't understand where you're getting this number from. I really do think that you would benefit from skimming through this thread since it should clarify some assumptions that you're still making. For example, they've stated that their engineering sample run had 50 cases made. Not all youtubers only recieved 1 case and there's at least 1 youtuber, Hardware Unboxed, that has received two cases but hasn't reviewed it yet. Additionally, it hasn't been only youtubers who have received an engineering sample. Both ej24 and I have an engineering sample and have written a review of the case and provided feedback to the Zaber team. So, when I talk about the quality of the case and my thoughts on it It's coming from someone who had no issues backing the original V1.1 case on indiegogo and is currently using the V2.0 as their current case. This project started back in September 2014 over on HardForum when the Sentry case was just a concept and took over 2 years before V1.1 was finalized. The V2.0 threads were created a year ago to gather more community feedback and improvements. I feel like the LTT thread makes this case seem like less of a community project than it actually is due to the lack of activity. The Hardforum and SFF Forum threads have had much more feedback and idea sharing and might give a better idea of how much effort has been put into this case by the Zaber team and other community members. For the record, I'm not ignorant enough to think that this case is for everyone. Some people will want a different case to accommodate large coolers, more storage options, or a lower price point. This case is for small form factor enthusiasts who care more about the size of a case and high quality construction more than a price tag. I am extremely happy that I pledged to the V1.1 campaign and would have pledged to the V2.0 campaign if I didn't already have my V1.1 case and the 2.0 engineering sample.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/sentry-2-0-evolution-of-console-sized-gaming-case Everyone get on the HYPE train. It's happening!

Initially I wasn't going to respond to you since you don't seem very open to conversation, but I'm hoping that we can meet on some common ground to clear up some assumptions you seem to have. If you aren't open to a conversation then I'm not going to bother replying to you anymore; I like to help and inform people with my posts and not argue with people who aren't open to other opinions and make factless statements. The Node 202 is a great case but is only similar to the Sentry 2.0 in the way the case is laid out. The Node 202 is made up of a significant amount of plastic while the Sentry is made of steel which causes a wide gap in price and, in my opinion, quality. The Node 202 is also larger than the Sentry 2.0 which makes it more difficult to just throw it in a backpack or laptop bag. Sentry 2.0 is a premium product which fills a niche gap that Node 202 can't fill for everyone. I'm not sure where you got your, '10 cases which can be done by 1 person in a garage' fact from but you can see from the first page of this thread that this is plainly false.

I don't entirely disagree with you; Indiegogo has a significant amount of products that over promise and then never deliver. But this isn't ZombiPL and SaperPL's first crowdfunding campaign. Their Sentry 1.1 campaign was successfully funded and sent out to backers. The only major complaint with that campaign was how long the case took to reach backers after it had been shipped out. They're planning on using a faster shipping method this time so that issue should go away. I realize that past performance isn't an indicator of future performance; but, the Zaber team isn't starting a crowdfunding campaign with only a vague idea of what they want to do. They've created engineering samples to test manufacturing repeatably and have sent out cases to several tech reviewers to get their thoughts on the case.

ZombiPL and SaperPL sent me a case to review as well. I'm not fancy enough to have a video, but I'll put my review below. Disclaimer: I received this case to review for free, but the following review is my own opinion/thoughts and hasn’t been influenced by this. Since you aren’t able to buy V1.1 I’m going to keep comparisons between the two products to a minimum. I focus on low noise over low temperatures, so I’ve listed the fan speed associated with the temperature for benchmarks. Just because a temperature is high doesn’t mean that it isn’t being cooled well. Packaging: The packaging consists of a cardboard box which is lined with 20mm thick foam on all sides and is broken up into an upper and lower compartment. The upper level contains the body of the Sentry 2.0 case which is wrapped in a Sentry 2.0 plastic bag. The lower level, which is separated from the upper level with a foam insert, contains the stand, a magnetic torx screwdriver, power cable, anti-vandal power button, hard PCB riser, and accessories required for assembly. The packaging is really high quality and makes me confident that even if the package gets thrown around that the case won’t be damaged. This is by far the best computer case packaging I’ve ever encountered by a long shot. My package arrived in great condition with only a few small marks on the cardboard. The thick foam on all sides of the packaging makes me feel that the case is well protected from accidental damage. All included tools and accessories: Assembly: I highly recommend that you read through the manual before assembling this case. A lot of the components need to be installed in the specific order listed in the manual. The instructions are similar to the V1.1, but some steps such as the new riser assembly have been changed and will require you to read through the installation steps. The case arrived completely disassembled, meaning that the power button and power cord have to be installed by the user. Having to install these parts doesn’t bother me since I always found that the power cord got in the way while building. I intentionally left fastening the socket of the power cable to the outside of the case for last as it kept getting in my way when installing the motherboard and riser. The number of screws has been reduced from 8 screws to attach the outer panel to just 4 which is a minor but much appreciated improvement. I wasn’t ever bothered with the old screw count, but having less screws does help make the case look a little cleaner. I don’t feel as though the reduction in the screw count has impacted the stability of the case; my V2.0 case feels just a rock solid as my V1.1 case. The rest of the installation went fairly well. I had an issue with the power switch interfering with one of the plug locations on my modular PSU, but I was able to attach all of my required cables. I believe that I could have bent the power switch wiring out of the way for my power supply cable, but I feel like this risks damaging the cabling. The power switch location is a trade-off to support an AIO liquid cooler so I understand why it's is located where it is. The only time that I really had to sit down and closely read over the manual was with the new riser bracket. The new bracket attaches like a hinge and must be inserted at a low angle before being lifted into place. The manual does a better job of explaining the steps than I can. Despite my initial confusion, I think that the bracket change is an improvement since it, in theory, should reduce the chance of damaging the riser even if you don’t read the manual. The build quality is still top notch with the case having a nice compact and weighty feel. All of the pieces come together to make this thing feel like a tank. Power Button Interference: For the record I plugged in the PSU cables all the way after taking this picture. I'm also aware that I don't have the o-ring for the power switch in the right location. Final result after some cable managing: I don’t have any 2.5” drives or AIO coolers so I can’t comment on how well those mounting mechanisms work but they seem well designed. Benchmarks: I said this in the disclaimer but I’ll say it again for good measure: I focus on low noise, not low temperatures. I’ve included the fan speed % along with temperatures since all temperatures will be on the high side. I never experienced any throttling during these benchmarks. Also, sorry for not owning many recent games. I tried to get a good mix of CPU and CPU loads for my tests. Relevant specs: CPU: delidded 6700K with a slight undervolt and a Cooltek LP53 cooler with a Cryorig C7 fan GPU: EVGA 1070 SC with an additional +100MHz memory overclock. Idle: CPU: 50c at 10% fan speed GPU: 45-50c at 0-10% fan speed Batman: Arkham Knight CPU: 60-65C at 36% fan speed. CPU usage was around 45% GPU: 85C at 63% fan speed Between 95-100% usage. 100% fan speed saw 73C Beat Saber CPU : 65c at 24% fan speed. CPU usage was around 35% GPU: 60-70C at 57% fan speed between 70-80% usage. 100% fan speed saw 68c Guild Wars 2: CPU: 65-70C at 46% fan speed . CPU usage was around 50-55% GPU: 68C at 40% fan speed at 50% usage My overall impressions: V2.0 is a solid increment on the Sentry V1.1 design. It’s not wildly different from V1.1, but that’s not a bad thing if you appreciate the design decisions in V1.1. V2.0 shows that ZombiPL and SaperPL took customer’s suggestions to heart by making installation quicker by using less screws, increasing ventilation which improved my temperatures by about 5C coming from my V1.1 case, and adding liquid cooling support (along with other small tweaks). The new hard PCI riser is a welcomed addition since it should be more durable than a flexible one (not that I ever had an issue with mine). I’m a little concerned that people will struggle with this step or just install it incorrectly like Linus did during his livestream. Other than having the user read the manual carefully, the only other suggestions I can think of would be to create a youtube video of the entire assembly process of the case (like what was done for the V1.1 case) or to attach a note to the riser bracket saying that it is inserted at a low angle and then swings into place like a hinge. I think the new bracket works well, but I just can’t help but feel that people won’t bother to read the manual and screw up installing it. My only real criticism of the case comes from the trade-off of allowing liquid cooling by moving the placement of the power button. I never felt the need to use a liquid cooler in my V1.1 case since I prefer full sized GPUs but I liked the option for SFX-L power supplies in case the size factor ever gained more traction. Since SFX-L isn’t very popular right now and there was a desire for liquid cooling I agree with the decision to remove SFX-L compatibility and add liquid cooling compatibility, but I’m still a little disappointed to see SFX-L compatibility removed. If anyone has any questions I’ll be more than happy to answer them. edit: removed spoilers for better post visibility

Linus is doing a livestream and doing a quick build with Sentry 2.0 right now in case anyone wants to watch it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzcrTmhOP2s

In no particular order: -Not being tied to iTunes and being able to drag and drop my music and videos onto my phone. -Having real file management. -I still use headphones on a somewhat regular occasion and I like not having to use a dongle. -I like that I can hide my unused apps easily. I like having very few apps on my home screen. -The wide range of prices are a huge plus. The most I've ever spent on a phone is $600 and I don't think I'll spend that much again. -Cheaper repair costs. -This isn't widely available anymore, but I love having a removable battery. -Having expandable storage through Micro SD cards. It's super nice that I was able to add 64GB of storage for $10 for music. -I like most android phone manufacturers more than Apple.

I'm super excited to get some reviews for this. I have a corsair SF600 which has the fan turning on and off pretty consistently at idle which is driving me nuts. I'm a little concerned about it being in a case with little to no airflow though. Hopefully the price won't destroy my wallet too badly.

I'm not SaperPL, but hopefully I can help. The screw isn't supposed to go through both the riser and the case. The screw goes through only the case and keeps the riser in place by not allowing the riser to move around. It's a way to make it so any riser can work with the case. You pull the riser through the slot (male end first) from the gpu chamber to the cpu chamber until you can't move the riser any more. You then screw in the screws. The riser should be unable to move due to the screws stopping it from shifting towards the gpu chamber. Just to reiterate; the riser is locked into place without having the screws to through it. The entire process should require little to no force. Hopefully I made sense. If you need any clarification, please let me know.

I hope this idiot gets made an example of.

This could be really cool if it has enough power behind it. I don't think I would buy it since I already own a Rift; but, it might be a cool gift to buy for someone who has never tried VR before. I just worry that this is going to take away focus from the Rift 2 development.

I received my Sentry yesterday and figured I'd share a picture of the completed build. Ignore the mess of wires. I was pretty excited and didn't bother to really do any cable management. The build went pretty well. The best piece of advice for everyone else getting their case is to read the instructions. There's definitely an order for how you should assemble everything. I'm super pleased with my case and how well the crowdfunding campaign has been going. This case is pretty much everything I wanted it to be. Hopefully everyone else on this thread gets their case soon.

I think the writer was just careless and saw the, "DAN Cases A4-SFX - The World's Smallest Gaming Tower Case" title for the A4 Kickstarter and didn't do any fact checking. I'm just surprised that no one caught that error though.

Overall, I enjoyed the video. I feel like the script was a little sloppy though. For starters, you claim that the DAN-A4 is, "currently the world's smallest computer case" at 7.2L. Maybe you meant smallest case that can fit a full sized (~10") graphics card and internal power supply, which would eliminate options such as the NFC S4-mini; but you list the Sentry in your video at 6.9L. You also mention that the DAN-A4 can only be purchased when another crowdfunding campaign starts, but fail to mention that it's the same situation for the Sentry. I can tell that a lot of time has gone into testing all of these cases, and making the actual video which is why I think it bothers me so much when mistakes like this are made. Sorry if I'm being a little overly-critical. I'm really enjoying all of the SFF content we've been getting lately. Keep up the good work.

I really hope Google continues to work on this. The concept looks really promising.

ZombiPL said this on the [H]ardforum thread: "We used to make an update on Saturday evening or Sunday morning, but this time it will be a little bit late, probably Sunday evening. We got tons of emails which we need to answer and also we are filling shipping forms for the first part of Sentry cases, so we need some time to move forward. In Poland we already have the 30th of April (it's 1:35 am CET when i'm writing this post) which is the last day of this month, so for us, as engineers, it is a deadline to give you an information about sending the packages. Some of you probably noticed 2 days ago (28.04 and 29 04) we have locked their indiegogo shipping change option. In few hour we will send you an update with all the information you would need or expect. We are ready with the first transport of Sentry cases, but there will be some good and bad information. We will explain everything in the update. p.s. but don't worry too much "

I wonder if this means that they don't plan on replacing their portable line with the Switch. I wonder if anyone was expecting this.

Chances are, if you don't remember entering a phone number, they don't have it. If you're from the US then there was no field to enter your phone number. Just add your phone number, with a comma, after your address and you should be all set.

I asked about this on the [H]ardForum thread and SaperPL said: "Yeah, that's right. It's an issue within indiegogo that not every country has a field for phone number - actually just a few have... That's why we're asking you to fill out your phone number within address line because there's no size limit in those fields." I'm just placing my phone number in the address 2 field. That seems like the most logical place to put it.

The campaign never accepted PayPal from the start, so luckily it's unaffected by this change. I think the Zaber team has suggested prepaid credit cards as an alternative.