kampfer5191

that's not bad at 4.0GHz. i have my 1300x at 4.0GHz at 1.3875v. so i wouldn't go further than that.

thanks for the personal experience feedback. that's great to hear how it performs. are you overclocked at all? or just the default oc setting?

good to hear that. thanks for the info.

guess i'm pulling the trigger on the 1700x then. will it be fine with streaming and gaming like on twitch?

$160 for the noon x So the $70 price gap and difference in performance isn't worth the 2600x?

I have a 1300x. it does me very well for what it is oc to 4.0GHz, but i have a 1080ti with it. newegg has the 1700x for $150 and the 2600x on sale for $220. i know that the 1700x is 14nm and the 2600x is 12nm. my mobo is an asus prime x370 pro flashed to except the 2000 series ryzen cpus. it the 2600x worth the $70 difference? and i am thinking of streaming a little with some friends. the 1700x is an 8c/16t cpu and the 2600x is 6c/12t. i'm not planning on oc any more than 4.0GHz if i would need to. thanks

they are bad cards at all. i was planning on getting a vega64 but i found a good deal on a slightly used 1080ti. freesync monitors are pretty cheap and paired with a vega card i hear they look amazing. you can't go wrong with any card that is on the market right now. i ran a gtx760 for 2 yrs and switched to a r9 390x when it came out. i loved the way it performed for the 3yrs i used it, it just got pretty hot when i had to start oc it to keep up with some newer gpu heavy games, that's when i started swaying between the vega64 and a 10 series card. i don't have a gsync or freesync monitor so it didn't matter what i got. the vega cards are great for 1440p with a high frequency monitor, i'm pretty sure the vega64 can do a 4k at playable framerates. for me i love amd, but they are lacking a bit in the highend market, if they would've announced the new highend cards after the rtx announcement i would've waited, but i wanted a large performance boost over the 390x for not a wallet breaking price. at the time a new 1080ti was $800, the vega64 was ~$690ish, and i picked my used for $550. i guess in short, yeah vega cards are good cards for what they offer

i had a gtx 550ti in a windows xp system as my first build. had a pentium 4 cpu it ran skyrim on with a few mods. i miss that system sometimes.

i would have done the 2080ti, but i got a 1080ti since money was the issue.

sorry i didn't take notice you were running itx. those prices are crazy. i still think that your current psu will be enough. i'm not sure what the stock speeds are on a 8600k but a modest oc would still be very possible with stock speeds on a vega56

people undervolt the vega cards to produce less heat and also draws less power. people even oc the vega card while undervolting it, just not as much if you would leave the standard clocks. the 450w psu may be good enough for a vega 56 and your system. i would go with the vega 56 over the rx580. a bigger psu isn't that much to replace if you needed to anyway, a good 550w or even 650w would set you back around the $70 range. so if you build a new system every 4/5yrs the vega 56 plus a bigger psu if needed would be better than the rx580 and you'd be able to play game at higher settings

that's what i did in my old fx8320 build. had a 1x8gb for a year and then bought the same exact stick later for a 2x8gb.

i did have him try to roll back to 411.70 like i am using, man i forgot a lot of info. we were screen sharing on discord for like 3 hrs the other night. he's at work yet and i'll try to walk him through more things you posted

he's not that good with computers lol. he managed to get a rep from activision on the phone and he sent a video of the problem and is going to try and get on the phone again with them. i will forward the info thank you

i sent my friend the instructions to see if it'll help him. i do think it's weird it works on my pc and not his. seeing as how his has a much stronger cpu, but he also streams and has a lot of programs for that