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DrMikeNZ

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  1. Potentially, the motherboard may require a BIOS update to support the G4560, this will require a compatible skylake CPU (such as a G3900) to flash the BIOS. This could be done yourself by purchasing a compatible CPU, or taking the board into a store and paying them to update it for you.
  2. I am relieved that you were able to resolve the issue, and that it was not a serious hardware fault. You will need to adjust the CPU core voltage. I recommend that you start with small increments to the multiplier and test as you go (I typically run Cinebench 4 times at each increment), monitoring CPU temperatures. If it crashes, then raise the CPU voltage until it no longer crashes under load. Try to keep CPU temperatures below 80°C, or lower if you are not comfortable at that temperature, with the stock cooler you will likely want to stay below approximately 1.38V as this is typically about the most the stock cooler can handle keeping temperatures stable. Once you have an overclock you are happy with, run a few longer stress tests such as aida64 and if it crashes either drop the clock speed or raise the CPU voltage.
  3. Try moving the GPU to PCIEX16_1, and the RAM stick to DIMM_A2.
  4. Corsair fans would be a downgrade, the Noctua industrial is a premium fan and a bit overkill for an intake. For case fans I typically use Be Quiet Silent Wings 3, or Pure Wings 2.
  5. You need a dedicated GPU with the R5 1600, it is not an APU.
  6. We live in a world where the leader of the free world doesn't believe in climate change or protecting the environment, there aren't really any regulations left stopping you. The water goes to the ocean, and the hardware goes to landfill. When the system fails, throw it away and raise your middle fingers to the future of the planet.
  7. If money is not an issue, then you could run a continuous water deionisation system constantly replacing the coolant
  8. That particular motherboard has an unusually low rated memory overclock in its specifications, it is the only X370 board that I am aware of rated to 2933+ whereas others were rated to 3200+. The only reason I can see for this is if they made a design mistake in the memory traces, and could potentially be a cause of RAM and application instability. However, RAM issues should be able to be overcome with manual tweaking. Run memtest86 overnight and check there aren't any serious issues with the RAM. You could try to reinstall windows using a freshly updated install disk with the media creation tool, windows sometimes goofs up, it can't hurt to try.
  9. Welcome to the forums, that is the first I have heard of Ryzen giving a blue screen, hopefully there are some debug crash dumps to go with it. I recommend that you create your own thread asking for help rather than hijacking someone else's. Download hwinfo or similar and check your CPU temperatures. Also check for a folder "C:\Windows\Minidump".
  10. The 1600X is 15% more expensive than the 1600 where I live, the overclocked performance is not worth it as the binning of Ryzen is not significant. The 1600X is a great CPU, but not as good bang-for-buck as the 1600 when both are overclocked. Also, the 1600 comes with a hunk of metal to put into your trophy cabinet.
  11. Possibly, although it is less likely to be a hardware issue with the memory itself, and more likely to be an issue with the particular default settings. Ryzen is a pain in the ass with memory compatibility and out of the box frequently trains the memory timings incorrectly which can lead to a lot of stability issues. There have been a lot of issues with RAM that is not on the motherboards QVL failing to POST entirely. The RAM is tested for the XMP profile with Intel processors, and may not be stable on Ryzen. PC partpicker doesn't go through each motherboards QVL to assess compatibility as with previous platforms it was rare to have issues, it pretty much just checks if it is the right ram type (DDR3 or DDR4 etc). I recommend keeping the clock speed at 2133 until you have determined the cause of the instability, but try increasing the timings and/or SOC and DRAM voltages. If that doesn't work, you might need to manually set secondary or tertiary timings which requires the AGESA 1.0.0.6 update. Or, replace the motherboard.
  12. 2133 MHz is the stock for DDR4, while the RAM is rated to 3000 MHz, the CPU is not. Anything above 2666 MHz in a single rank dual channel configuration on Ryzen is an overclock and is not guaranteed to be stable. If you set the XMP profile and it fails, you may need to manually overclock the RAM by manually adjusting the voltages, clock and timings to what your system can handle.
  13. I keep some dice in a draw, those are more accurate than GPU/CPU boss.
  14. I would start with RAM. What are your RAM speed and timings (check with CPU-z), you may need to manually adjust these to improve stability.
  15. Don't worry about that, the CPU is fine. As long as your temperatures are in check. 1.35V (among the wide range of other recommended values) is just an arbitrary value pulled out of a hat and is approximately the point where power draw increases significantly with overclocks. at 1.4V is will be less efficient, although if it is stable and temperatures are in check then it will be fine. If 1.4V is above your personal comfort zone, then you could drop the clock speed.
  16. The overclock is unstable, and is failing. This could be due to the RAM not being compatible with the motherboard, (make sure your RAM is on the motherboards QVL). If the RAM is compatible with the motherboard and you are on the latest BIOS, then the CPU integrated memory controller could be limiting the overclock. 3000 MHz is an overclock and not guaranteed.
  17. 70°C is fine. In my tests I got diminishing improvement clock-for-clock above 3.6GHz anyway. At 3.8Ghz it is still a very good processor.
  18. Don't get that processor, it is an overpriced 7700K with the iGPU (quicksync) disabled, then you will have to pay a premium for motherboard features you cannot use. The 7700 (non-K) is not overclockable, a 4C8T processor. The R7 1700 is an overclockable 8C16T processor, and can be overclocked to almost the same performance as an 1800X. The R7 1700X and 1800X are just factory overclocked 1700's. I strongly recommend either the R5 1600 or R7 1700.
  19. There are a wide range of "AMD says" claims by various sources with inconsistent figures given. 1.3-1.38V would be recommended it is an optimum power efficient range for the CPU, and above this the power draw increases dramatically while the performance and stable clock speeds have minimum improvement. 1.45V would be recommended as a "maximum" for overclocking as most people would not be able to maintain stable safe temperatures above this voltage under 24/7 load without an extreme cooling solution.
  20. It depends on the country, some countries have extremely hard tap water which can result in a lot of scaling in the loop which would add to the maintenance requirements. I personally would not use tap water due to the corrosive additives the local council puts into our water.
  21. Some applications use AVX for a small number of the calculations. With this you might find every hundred or so cycles an AVX cycle might creep in when it is efficient to do so. Applications like AIDA64. Realbench etc may be switching between AVX and non-AVX workloads stressing all of the CPU instructions triggering the clock reduction. This clock reduction tends to linger for a while after the AVX cycle hindering performance overall for other instructions as well. The occasional AVX cycle shouldn't cause huge issues. I recommend just leaving the AVX offset feature off, and validating your overclock for your workloads with the programs you use. If you need to use AVX2 etc, then just run at 4.3GHz or lower, if not then feel free to push further.
  22. It is normal, the voltages are fine for short periods, although an extreme cooling solution would be required to sustain it long term. The highest I recall seeing on my R7 1700 was 1.52V. Although overclocked I just keep it at a steady 1.325V @3.8GHz. Do you have a source of the "AMD says" reference?
  23. On the X370 chipset with devices in both x16 slots your PCIe lanes from the CPU is shared across the two x16 slots, each running at x8. The top M.2 slot uses either SATA from the chipset or its own PCIe lanes from the CPU, and has no impact on GPU configuration. The bottom M.2 slot uses either Sata from the chipset or PCIe2.0 x2 lanes (about a quarter the speed of the top M.2 slots PCIe3.0 x4) from the chipset and also will have no impact on your GPU configuration.
  24. Last I checked the Gaming K4 was not compatible with 3200+Mhz RAM.
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