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Taf the Ghost

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  1. I'm really reminded of the Win10 launch period. "Free" Upgrades was awesome, then the Telemetry disaster hit. Then MS got abusive about trying to make you upgrade. It's the disrespectful behavior that makes a huge segment look at the company with deep suspicion. The other thing to keep in mind is that Fortnite went Fad, so it has a shelf-life of probably another 2 years. Epic wants to keep that Revenue number up, so they're trying to buy market share. Valve still has CS:GO, Dota 2 and (soon) Auto Chess that they own. They also have PUBG and most Free to Play games. Independent launchers isn't the issue (and never really has been for PC Gaming), it's the segmented store for no reason, the data mining and just a platform that's years behind anyone else. They could have offered EGS Exclusive cosmetic bonuses and -2USD on the launch price and gotten more Revenue than they will in this situation.
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    Samsung Anounces even faster hbm2 products now 3.2Gbps

    Reports on the Radeon VII are kind of impressive. Some of the silicon is kind of ridiculous how low you can take the voltage. Fmax we'll probably see is around 2000 on 7nm for a while, but you can push a lot of power at fairly low voltages. With a design that isn't unbalanced for gaming, 7nm parts are going to fly. There's a reason there is some industry hype behind Navi. Let's just hope AMD executes better than in the past.
  3. @GeekRichieUK if you're working at 4K, there's almost no reason to delid. At 4K, there's zero difference between the CPUs in gaming. If you're going to be video editing, I'd be better to go AMD and get up to 32 Gb of memory. You can flip the CPU for one with more cores later in the year if you find you need them. @_Syn_ is correct on putting the 1080 Ti in the AMD build, generally. I'm trying to figure out the storage setup you're going with. None of the non-HEDT boards allow for NVMe on 2 M.2 slots. So you'd either need to keep the Corsair and sell the Samsung, or you could buy a good SSD ( See this listing ) for cheaper. You'll get the same performance and save some money. If you think you want that much NVMe storage for video editing, I'd see about flipping the Samsung.
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    Samsung Anounces even faster hbm2 products now 3.2Gbps

    We will probably see the 4-hi 64 Gb MI model by next year, however.
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    Samsung Anounces even faster hbm2 products now 3.2Gbps

    Science Department King Radeon the 7th needs no cheaper version. More seriously, I think they'd have to change the HBM controller and re-spin the dies. AMD is having trouble keeping the channel filled for Data Center parts as it is, especially now that it seems Google, Sony and MS are all buying 7nm Vega parts in bulk. I think what it does allow for is the next GPU generation to have HBM at the higher SKUs and make sense. Consumer/Professional parts with 16 or 32 Gb from two stacks. Nvidia is running 24 Gb at 672 Gb/s. 16/32 Gb at ~820 Gb/s is more than enough even for intense 4K gaming. We'll see if AMD has the money to run out a stripped down Compute design from their Vega replacement, so they can sell a high-end gaming/professional cards without having to waste die space on massive compute capacity.
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    Google Stadia (Cloud Gaming)

    MxM GPUs are rough for gaming because of Driver & Engine issues. It's not that it has never been doable. It's just that people didn't buy more than 1 GPU enough. It'll be a few years before we see dual-chip Gaming GPUs, but we know it's coming. AMD just has to design the architecture around being able to do it.
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    Samsung Anounces even faster hbm2 products now 3.2Gbps

    If the Fabs decided to produce more, prices would in theory go down. The FPGA industry has eaten up most of the HBM2 supply. That's part of the reason the prices are still high, as Demand got higher than anticipated, which drove supply-constrained prices up. Big Navi won't have HBM2, but Vega-Next will likely feature a 4-stack arrangement for 64 Gb. If AMD has the money and finally split their design branches further, we could see the Vega-class replacement with 2 stacks for 32 Gb. It'd be almost as much bandwidth as 4 stack Radeon 7, which is more than enough for what the non-Data Center parts would need.
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    Samsung Anounces even faster hbm2 products now 3.2Gbps

    HBM3 will be on 7nm, which the memory fabs haven't started to produce on yet.
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    Ryzen 3000 „Valhalla“

    We don't have officially published numbers yet, as Rome hasn't been launched. The core arrangement is also still up in the air, though it's looking like the CCXs are gone. If true, there's a lot we don't know about the design and thus can't project out much about. (But it looks like 16mb per chiplet, so it should be 2mb per core.) As for the I/O die, it'll have the memory controllers. If the information from the BIOS analysis is correct, each chiplet will have primary (or exclusive, not sure) access to the memory through an individual memory controller. Each chiplet with its own memory channel. But, that's bandwidth to the Memory. Interior bandwidth will be a lot higher. Some of this is likely the response to the memory topology issues that could crop up with Epyc.
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    Ryzen 3000 „Valhalla“

    I've gotta applaud that one.
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    Ryzen 3000 „Valhalla“

    @porina the fixed chiplet assignment for the memory controllers is a way they handled things in Rome, almost assuredly. The 2990WX only just reached the edge of memory bandwidth issues on 4 channels and 32 cores. So, unless you're running some bandwidth bug test, I don't think it'll end up being an issue, even in most gaming contexts. Especially if the chiplet can load balance itself internally. If it's a fixed bandwidth allocation, there could be some issues when you really load up a single thread. We'll just have to wait to see.
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    Ryzen 3000 „Valhalla“

    The channels are on the I/O die. It's just routing for topology purposes. Zen can load balance really well already, so this is probably just the result of division of memory bandwidth. There's going to be more clock domains and the ability to run the IF separate from the MemCLK. Main thing to take away is that the BIOS is setup for 16c parts. I, personally, expect those will come later in the release cycle (probably Sept/Oct) rather than at Launch. There's also a few interesting tidbits, like using the L3 of the other chiplet as a NUMA sector (i.e. L4). One implication is that we're going to see 8c, single-chiplet parts. Those will likely be the best gaming version, so it'll be interesting to see how the release cycle is effected by that.
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    Samsung Anounces even faster hbm2 products now 3.2Gbps

    That's more an issue with Vega and Gaming. In compute, Vega with HBM2 rocks. Gaming really can't use that much bandwidth yet. Even at 4K.
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    Ryzen 3000 „Valhalla“

    Should. AMD is on AM4 until at least 2020. Probably 2022 at the speed DDR5 is going for adoption. Though the motherboard manufacturer is the one that has to update it.
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    Ryzen 3000 „Valhalla“

    Valhalla is the core name. Zen1's was Zeppelin. And, yes, @VegetableStu has the correct reference for the likely naming. The bit to come out was analysis for new features within the BIOS for Zen2 parts. https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-new-dram-calculator-ryzena-1-4-1-overclocking-dram-am4-414.html @leadeater might also find that interesting. Looking like CCXs are dead and it's now about individual chiplets. Along with some interesting stuff going on with the memory channels.
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    Google Stadia (Cloud Gaming)

    It'll really come down to how the license for the service works. If you're functionally renting Google's Hardware, you'd be able to import your Steam/Other Store keys/games onto Google's hardware. I.e. it's like a Gaming VM. If it isn't setup that way, then we'll have a Catalog from Google. Which means either it's all for Free to Play games or you'd have to purchase ones on the platform. And, somehow, this all needs to be for probably under 25USD a month. You can build a more than adequate gaming PC for 500USD. Why would you pay 50USD a month for the 5th best gaming setup?
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    Google Stadia (Cloud Gaming)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnLive Technically, Google is extremely late to the party, though Onlive went through a few iterations of what they wanted to do. Google is simply using their other products as a Thin Client. But you'll still need to "rent" out a pretty high-end Gaming PC from Google with a dedicated internet to really get any use out of it. Further, are they going to use their own game library or can you import your Steam Library there? Or is this something like consoles offer with subscription services for a game library? That's going to cost even more. Google is trying to be the 4th Console company with a library currently unknown. At least Sega had Jet Set Radio.
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    Google Stadia (Cloud Gaming)

    Google said "Hyperthreaded", which a trademark of Intel's. They're going to be using Xeons. The "custom" part might be because it's part of their already custom orders from Intel.
  19. Installing a bunch of industrial Noctua fans in place of a car radiator fan might be interesting content...
  20. Yes and no. The best air coolers have the right fan to go with the right fin design. You normally can't just slap better fans on an Air cooler and just get a much better result, unless it's a very cheap cooler.
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    Google Stadia (Cloud Gaming)

    Google's datacenter setup is really different from practically everyone else. They might eventually roll out Rome parts in mass, but it'd be a while. MS, Sony and Amazon? They'd have these types of platforms on Rome. An interesting thought is that part of the console cycle going into 2020 to start is actually this issue with Game Streaming. The big players want Rome servers in place, thus the CPUs are identical on both Console and Game Streaming.
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    Google Stadia (Cloud Gaming)

    Google literally has millions of Skylake-SP parts. They'd use those.
  23. Was Nvidia's GPP that he reported first. That was pretty big and just last year. Saw this earlier, and it's a little surprising. At the same time, Intel is showing a lot of willingness lately to un-screw their screwups of the last couple of years. That's just good for everyone. It doesn't fix Intel's 10nm and at least 2-4 more years of significant stagnation for them, but the less like a soulless behemoth they act like the better.
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    Review my build before I buy anything.

    The MSI VRMs are the best on the B450, you end up needing to go to the high-end X470 to get better. (It's why their B450 boards are really popular.) I'd get a 650w PSU. The Corsir RMx line is really hard to recommend against in most areas. Good PSU at a normally reasonable price. (You're building a higher end system, so you need a solid PSU.) Since you're in Europe, it's possible some of the be quiet! might have better prices for the same quality. Other thing on the build: that Memory is way too expensive. You should be able to get a 2x 16 Gb 3200 kit for almost half that. So look harder. I'd recommend starting with a 2x 8 GB Kit anyway and adding another if you actually find you use the memory. What you've listed really isn't likely to fill up 16 Gb of memory.
  25. The two fans alone will cost you 60USD at retail.
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