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rrubberr

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  1. rrubberr

    Buying AMD instead of Nvidia, change my mind.

    Okay, here we go. When I bought my Radeon VII from AMD, I thought I was buying a card that I could plug in and have work, but, mirroring my other experiences with AMD, this was not the case. Issues included: 1) The Radeon VII did not come with a UEFI compatible BIOS. It's 2019 for God's sake, not 2008. I had to flash the BIOS in another computer (and it is not a given that all of their customers just happen to have another workstation laying around) before I could even use it in the server I had planned to install it in. This may not be an issue with the 5700, but it speaks more to AMD's mentality of "ship first, provide a functional product later." 2) AMD drivers are never finished. I have reinstalled Windows upwards of a dozen times since I got this card, simply trying to update drivers. Two of the drivers (I believe they were 19.7.2 and 19.7.3) would consistently destroy or fail to install on FRESH Windows 10 installations; forget trying to install it over the current version. DDU and AMD's cleanup utility were no help either. Finally, the latest version 19.7.5 was able to install, but again, required a FRESH installation of Windows. This replaced 19.5.2, which was the last version of the driver that functioned on my system. I have NEVER had Nvidia drivers botch an update or an install, from my 660TI to my Titan Z, to my Titan X Maxwell and my 1080 SLI. 3) Even with the UEFI compatible BIOS, the card does not show a BIOS screen before booting into Windows. Apparently, if you want to use displayport, you don't get to see a BIOS consistently, and my 4K monitor does not support 60FPS over HDMI. This is particularly infuriating when trying to enable or disable hyper-threading, or when trying to manage my LSI RAID controllers. The card doesn't output an image until Windows loads its driver. On the other hand, of course, Nvidia shows me a BIOS every time I boot (although, I must say, AMD cards scale the BIOS very crisply when they decide to display it). Again, "ship first, provide a functional product later," or in this case, "provide a functional product never," as this was also an issue on my original Vega FE card. Other problems with AMD cards I've had include: 1) When playing Hitman Absolution (years ago) on my Radeon HD 7990, the card blew a capacitor and started spouting flames into my PC case. Needless to say, I never got to 'enjoy' that experience with an Nvidia card, partly because they don't run at 100C regularly. 2) AMD cards seem to have erratic power spikes. My HD 7990, Radeon Vega FE, and Radeon VII all trip overcurrent protection (card consuming more than 36 amps @ 12v) on my Z800 power supply when under load. My overclocked Titan X Maxwell, Titan Z, and SLI GTX 1080s all run just fine, even though they seem to consume more power according to review sites like Guru3D. This isn't an issue in my Supermicro with dual 1200 watt power supplies, but it's probably foolish to expect users to have 2.4 kilowatts from two 100 amp rails available to the graphics card. Overall, my experience with Nvidia has been massively better. Maybe they turned around their driver and hardware game with Navi, but the patterns I've seen over the years don't seem to change. It's so bad that I'm considering selling my Radeon VII and picking up a 2080 Super or something, even though I really need the 16GB of memory and the speed of HBM. Radeon has always been great for compute, especially in Luxrender and Luxcorerender which I use almost daily, due to massive HBM bandwidth and mature OpenCL support (Up to version 2.1, Nvidia cards still only get 1.2, which is missing several extensions), most times amounting to 2 or 3 times the speed of my GTX 1080. However, when you couple the driver crashes, terrible install process, literally having to flash a BIOS to your brand new card for it to even work, cards exploding and shooting out flames, terrible encoding for video recordings compared to Nvidia, loud coolers, etc. I really question why I keep buying AMD's cards except for my wish that they will be competitive again.
  2. rrubberr

    Wait for Super and RDNA?

    Not really much point in waiting for competition from AMD. As far as their products go, between drivers that 'become finished' often over a year after cards' release dates (has been the case with my HD 7990, R9 290X, Vega FE; my current Vega VII drivers are still in an awful state), wild power consumption (1250 watt PSU in my previous PC dedicated 36 amps to GPUs, no AMD card I own or have owned ran within that constraint, leading to system crashes), and a new architecture (AMD still hasn't figured out GCN after some half decade), it puzzles me why they still release products if not expressly to save NVIDIA from an anti-trust lawsuit.
  3. I'll state this bluntly: my experiences with AMD cards have been pretty awful. From one of my HD 7990 cards dying after belching flames into my PC case due to a burst capacitor, to my RX Vega Frontier Edition requiring a system restart just to post after every cold boot, to the barely-functional drivers that seem to be a tradition with AMD releases. I don't mean to sound anti-AMD, these are just my experiences. In my opinion AMD cards have long been the best for compute purposes, just fallen behind a bit in gaming due to single threaded DX11 drivers, etc, taking them out of the consumer eye. At this point though, there are pretty slim options for a video card for OpenCL compute. Nvidia refuses to modernize their OpenCL drivers trying to force CUDA adoption, and in applications I use, the equivalent card performance-wise would be a 2080TI, a whopping $500 more for a butchered, cut down card with substantially less and substantially slower memory. The Radeon VII provides a huge performance uplift over my current GTX 1080 (sadly I sold the Vega FE card due to the numerous problems I experienced), and the 2x+ boost in performance in many of my workloads is an appealing draw. But I have noticed a number of driver updates reaching the card, and even a BIOS update which appears to solve many of the critical issues present at release. So, before spending that much, again, on something from a company I have a terrible history with, I naturally have some questions: 1). How much heat does the card contribute to you guys' PC cases? I use a Supermicro 745TQ-R1200B system with three fans blowing in down the full height of the front, and two exhaust fans near the back, but fans can get pretty loud when the CPUs heat up. Have your other internal system temperatures increased noticeably? 2). For you 'creator' types, are the drivers really stable? Will I be able to, for instance, edit video reliably and scrub timelines in Premier, AE, or Resolve without driver hangs? Will my system remain stable enough to edit very high polygon (20m plus triangles) models, and to leave Blender / Luxcore renders running overnight without fear of crashes or overheats? Are the glaring issues with Substance Painter hanging still present with recent drivers? 3). Finally, can I expect compatibility with older games and software? Will games like Diablo II, Unreal Tournament 2004, and even 'less mainstream' modern games like Rust run reliably and well, without the graphical artifacts the Frontier Edition drivers presented? My Vega FE seemed to have huge issues with DirectDraw and pre-DriectX 9 titles. Thanks a ton in advance for responses.
  4. Yeah, I've had no issues with my current 1080 either, the problem is that the performance offered just isn't up to par for my use case anymore. No doubt I have had good experiences with Nvidia in the past. In my time with my Vega Frontier Edition, I also grew to like the built-in WattMan tools and the modern look of their software, but Nvidia's has always seemed more stable, even if it is less functional.
  5. Cool, all I usually do is boost the power limit and play with voltages, so that sounds good. If the BIOS update botches, will AMD void your warranty do you know?
  6. Yep, I usually bet on gaining 30% or more performance across the life of the card with AMD. Good to hear you don't have any instability. That's the main issue I've had with the cards in the past. Did you update your card's BIOS by any chance?
  7. I'll certainly look into that if I end up getting the card. I saw AMD has something called ROCm for compute, though I didn't see if that specifically required software compatibility or was some sort of distro.
  8. It's an issue I had alot, at least last time I tried Fedora. The bizarro Supermicro motherboard and chassis seem to be off the radar for a lot of things.
  9. Thanks for the tip. Some of those models certainly did have some issues, which is why I'm interested in verifying the quality of this model before making the purchase! I haven't tried Linux, but AFAIK all of my software would work perfectly fine there as well. I've just preferred the user experience of Windows, as well as the hardware support it has.
  10. I've been considering a Radeon VII as an alternative to the much more expensive 2080TI for use as an OpenCL compute device, and was wondering if AMD keeps the best chips for themselves in the same way Nvidia does with their "Founders Edition" products? In the case of the GTX 1080, my refurbished "Founders Edition" blower card ran between 10-15 degrees Celsius cooler than a friend's non-FE triple-fan card with fans locked at 100% using PrecisionX, leading me to believe binned chips are often hugely more efficient than what gets sold to board partners. Has this been disclosed by AMD?
  11. rrubberr

    Are AMD Branded Radeon VIIs Binned?

    I'm guessing that was a mistype and he meant he would prefer a 2080ti. Of course, buying a 2080ti is pretty much out of the question due to it being cut down and generally unimpressive. 2080ti actually isn't a substantially better card for raytracing, a scenario where Nvidia's refusal to release competent and up-to-date OpenCL drivers and their slow GDDR memory really hurts in applications I use (ray intersections require memory access, GDDR is slower in both latency and bandwidth afaik). For the $500 difference between the two cards, I would much rather pair two Radeon VIIs and get substantially more performance than a 2080ti, but, again, in my use cases the performance delta is negligible.
  12. rrubberr

    Are AMD Branded Radeon VIIs Binned?

    Yeah, makes sense that the ultra-expensive server solutions would get the best ones. Do you think they will will release a full 4096 core consumer 7nm as a refresh at some point? I always hate buying cut-down chips.
  13. Hello all. Recently I tried installing a Soundblaster Z soundcard into a Supermicro machine (motherboard model X9DRI-LN4F+) only to find that it was not detected and did not show up in the Windows Device manager under Windows 7 x64 Pro. I can confirm that the card itself works perfectly fine, as it still works perfectly in an older HP Z800 workstation. Any ideas on why this might be? There are no settings in the BIOS which seem to help.
  14. I used to have a plugin installed for Adobe Audition that exported absolutely tiny audio files, which could then be decompressed using a small batch file. Does anyone know of a plugin similar to this, or a plugin which does something similar?
  15. rrubberr

    Looking at Huawei P20 Pro or Xiaomi Mi Mix 3

    Oh, I see what you meant now, sorry for the confusion!
  16. I've had my BlackBerry KeyOne for almost two years now, and recently noticed that the battery is lasting significantly less time than it used to. I haven't had a "real" smartphone since before my BlackBerry Priv, so naturally I'm a bit out of the loop now that BlackBerry isn't here to make my decision for me! I decided to get an interim phone between now and the release of the Key3, and have settled on either the P20 Pro or the Mix 3. The P20 Pro obviously has the better camera software and setup, while the Mix 3 has a real Qualcomm chipset and doesn't have a notch . Camera is usually one of the least important things to me on a phone, since they all take passable photos these days, but the P20 does have an interesting setup that might cause me to take more pictures with my phone. I don't play mobile games, except for occasionally Modern Combat 4, for old times sake, so performance outside of maybe watching Twitch or Youtube picture-in-picture while using Google Maps isn't all that important. Coming from a BlackBerry, though, build quality does mean a lot, and I noticed that the Mix 3 ways a hefty ~220 grams, which leads me to believe that it's pretty sturdily built. I was wondering if you guys have used either of the devices, what you think of them, and which you believe is the better choice. Where I am, the P20 Pro costs $625-650 USD and the Mix 3 is only about $500 USD, so the price gap is pretty large. Thanks for your input!
  17. rrubberr

    Looking at Huawei P20 Pro or Xiaomi Mi Mix 3

    Yeah, the notch really is ugly, and it seems like they just make the notification / top status bar bigger without freeing up any screen space. I'm sure it's higher than the KeyOne . Plus, the P20 Pro only got a 114 camera score, 109 overall.
  18. rrubberr

    Error (Code 43) and "Force to Reinstall Driver"

    A bit of an update, I tried reinstalling older drivers this time and when it reached "Installing Graphics Driver" the screen when black and does not seem to be coming back.
  19. Recently I have been having trouble with my Titan Z, which now displays an Error Code 43 in device manager in a fresh Windows 10 installation. It lists both GPU's in the device manager but says "Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems." It also attempts to automatically install the driver, but then a notification appears that says only "Force to Reinstall Driver." Any ideas on what the problem is?
  20. rrubberr

    Error (Code 43) and "Force to Reinstall Driver"

    Trying that right now.
  21. Hi, all. I have been trying to get 8.1 Embedded Industry Pro running on my machine for the past couple days, but have had no luck. I decided that I should try to get standard Windows 8.1 working first, then go from there. The issue is that, on both versions of Windows 8.1, both standard 8.1 Pro and 8.1 Embedded Industry Pro, I have the same issue. When I try to install graphics drivers, the machine bluescreens during the installation with a DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION, then reboots to a black screen which eventually becomes another DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION bluescreen, effectively destroying that installation. I have tried both an AMD Vega FE and a Titan Z, and NVIDIA driver versions from 343 (the first version to support my card) to 398 (most recent), as well as AMD drivers 17.12 - 18.7. I can put in my Windows 10 install disk and install graphics drivers with no problems. Is there just some sort of glaring software issue with Windows 8.1 or am I doing something wrong?
  22. Correct, and it bluescreens as soon as the Nvidia installer gets to the "installing graphics driver" section of the install.
  23. I have a 660ti and a Vega FE that I could test, but the Vega FE does not have Windows 8 drivers (presumably the Windows 7 ones would work) and the 660ti uses the same driver. The Titan Z was working perfectly under Windows 10 mere hours ago.
  24. So, after watching the LTT video on "Windows 9" I decided to try out installing the ISO mentioned (https://www.eastcoast.hosting/Windows9/) on my machine. The issue is that, when installing the graphics driver for my Titan Z (both the latest driver from Nvidia for Windows 8.1 or the one available from Windows Update) the screen goes black for a couple minutes with no response, then a bluescreen with a DPC Watchdog Violation comes up. I have tried running windows updates multiple times to allow the system to update fully before installing graphics drivers, but the result is the same. All devices except for the graphics card are accounted for and shown as working properly in Device Manager. Any ideas?
  25. That isn't possible. The system bluescreens during driver installation and reboots to either a system with no driver installed, or to the same bluescreen.
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