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Counter-question: What makes you think support is necessary or deserved?

Unsubscribing, subscribed for over 10 years but stopped watching a while ago when it started becoming less about the tech and more about the subs / money

I'm not. It's unhealthy to want to support a massive money making company. If they have something to offer you like, consume it. If not, then don't. 

Considering the number of videos uploaded by all the associated channels, the ratio female representation on display is low. Very low. 

You could point to a small handful of videos that feature guests or irregular staff members. But they are distinct outliers. 
 
Having worked in IT for the past 15 years or more I've seen the real world representation of women in the tech industry. Whilst it's clearly skewed towards guys, the ratio of female representation seen in LMG videos is far from being indicative of the female representation in the industry. 

To compound this lack of representation the women that do appear on screen are seldom if ever shown as positive and competent tech role models. They're shown as people learning or damsels in tech distress. Yvonne is clearly an exception to this, and if I need to explain why then you're already way behind. 

Overall tech media is a sausagefest and the attitude often found on forums and in youtube video comment sections exacerbates the situation with an over arching attitude that the only women we should see on our screens should be approripately aesthetically pleasing and/or non-threatening. 
 
I'll be very clear that this is not a request for representation on the screen to meet arbitrary quotas for the sake of it, so you stop reaching for that pitch fork right now.
 
As a leader in the representation of the tech community online, I would hope that LMG consider the representation of their female staff and the female guests that they bring on and choose to steer away from the tired stereotypes that women are tarred with in the tech sphere and choose to show their female audience that they can be as capable and confident with tech as the boys are. 
 

 

I seriously doubt the Framework people know much about the internal culture of LMG.  Trying to hurt them makes no sense whatsoever.

It's fair to vote with your wallet, but it seems like you're ignoring your own holistic view on Framework vs. its competitors and boiling it down to a single investor. Do you take this hard line approach with other companies you enjoy the products from?

Is that the argument against the misinformation now? It's for entertainment but yet they're still uploading review videos with blatent errors and misinformation in them. In that case, any review should come with a warning "This video is for entertainment purposes, in no way a serious review"

Is that the argument against the misinformation now? It's for entertainment but yet they're still uploading review videos with blatent errors and misinformation in them. In that case, any review should come with a warning "This video is for entertainment purposes, in no way a serious review"

I am very new to LTT forum.
Last couple of days were crazy, with all high influx of activity on the forum and the moderators work is cutout.
Moderators are trying to keep the discussion clean and respectful as much as possible.
Thank you, all the moderators. 
 

Flat out wrong. There's no ethical obligation to reach out to the subject of a story for comment.

The fact you think she’s “feeding GN tolls” says more about you than you think it does.

Explain to me why I should be subjected to NSFW ads, mobile casinos, crypto scams, and straight up malware? Tell me why I should accept that I need to see that or have it play in the first place.
 
If it was blocking Billy Mays telling me about Oxyclean, an Axe Body Spray commercial, or even a Swiffer one, that'd be an entirely different conversation as those are actual commercials.

Alternatives I also watch:
GamersNexus - PC's
Hardware Unboxed - PC's
Monitors Unboxed - Monitors & TV's
Daniel Owen - PC's
Optimum Tech - PC's & Tech
Dave 2D - PC's & Tech
Rocket Jump Ninja - Mice
HDTVTest - Monitors & TV's

Oh wow, so Billet Labs gave them a 3090 with the prototype so they could properly test it???
So why the fuck did they act as if they hadn't one and used a 4090 and then shit all over Billet??

As a original subscriber back all the way in the days of NCIX, it does hurt me to see what I slowly believe is the decline of what was once quality content. I no longer watch any of LTTs review videos simply because I don't trust them to be accurate. However that isn't an issue for me (personally) as I've got other outlets for that kind of content, I've learned to watch LTT for the wacky content. However what I cannot forgive is the slandering of a start up company who trusted you to review their prototype product properly only for you to ignore their instruction, then drag their name in the mud by telling people to not buy, and then now to top it all off, sell their one of a kind prototype that costed them probably a lot of money to make.
 
I'm not sure I want to stay subscribed to LTT anymore, and I seriously hope that your response changes and that its just a heat of the moment snap response to what has happened, I don't usually comment on things like this but I feel very passionately about this as LTT has to be one of my longest subscribed channels after NCIX back in the day. It would be a real big shame if I felt that I didn't want to support LTT anymore. 

Out of all the things, this is the thing I am most concerned with, I am still concerned about all of the other points made in the video. However what LMG/LTT did here, its not right, with all the horrible things he said about the product (even though it was his fault for not following their explicit instructions), then doubling down and not apologising when called out for making these blatent errors, to then auction something that was not there's to auction. He's not only verbally discredited this company which has likely ruined them, but also gotten rid of their only known working prototype which he had absolutely zero right to do.

This is an attempt at honest, and constructive feedback. Please take it as such.

I'd been feeling off about LTT content lately, some videos left me feeling weird because they're going against some grain I couldn't really put my finger on. I've planned to investigate, but GN kind of hit the nail on the head. Little things I kept seeing that were mistakes, or unexplained. I expected, especially with the move to the lab supported I could walk away knowing how I felt about something from an LTT video.

I've spent years on discords, forums, and in person defending LTT content for what it is and living up to the standards expected of it, to the tech community at large as an entertainment company broadly doing what it sets out to do. I to this moment do not question the earnestness, sincerity, or intent of LMG or any of it's staff I'm aware of, including Linus himself. 

And outside of people with weird emotional hater hot takes, I don't see a lot of that doubt going around. Certainly not by anyone who matters

But there is a laundry list of concerns. There are growing pains, as Linus calls them. And there is how they're going to be handled.

Linus,

The statements "There won't be a big WAN Show segment about this or anything. Most of what I have to say, I've already said, and I've done so privately," doesn't jive with " I have a LONG history of meeting issues head on and I've never been afraid to answer questions," when uttered in the same statement. Not to mention "Is it because we are striving for transparency/improvement? Yeah..."

You kind are afraid to answer them, now. Or that's how this comes off, because you're not doing that when making a dismissive statement on your smallest platform. Trust me, bro only goes so far. And your history doesn't excuse everything, even if it's a solid one. I believe in your dedication to integrity, but the concerns here are not  as of yet being met head on. The concerns are that your newest, most rapid marks of success made you ill prepared to transition from a entertainment tech media company that makes curated entertainment tech videos to an informative fact driven tech video company that's beholden to a higher degree of accuracy. The concern is that something in your workflow seems to be putting video performance metrics above accuracy and ethical accountability. You don't have to be perfect, you just have to address things when they happen, and you're not doing a good job of the addressing mistakes for what you're trying to sell this media outlet as, now.

I expected to be able to trust your information going forward as you built out the labs, but now I'll have to check it against others and look to other places when I want to look up reliable information.

Part of this job, this idea of being a community driven media outlet is addressing the community and it's concerns. If you lose the community trust then you're not hitting the marks that I'm so confident you're striving for. It's also worth mentioning the current iteration of LMG depends on our compliance in this parasocial relationship.

The fact the Billet thing happened on every level just shocks me. It's a video that I tuned out, listening to while I worked, and it must've been a WAN show I skipped because I remember the video in a fuzzy way, but nothing from the WAN show. Haven't you said "there aren't bad products, but just bad value?" Everything I'm hearing, now, as I try to look into it is not the same Linus I subscribed to years back. The fact that you're crapping on Billet but giving Asus a stern look, then a pass regarding all it's recent issues is just disappointing. And that's concerning given how much money you have had to have gotten from them for LTX.

Also you put "sold" in quotes for the Billet block...? You actively got rid of something you really, really shouldn't have due to a miscommunication, or what have you, why the semantics here? It doesn't matter how you got rid of it. While I'm glad to kind of hear you're making it right, glossing over that is just disappointing. I remember a time when Linus would go out of his way to fix the smallest error on LMG's part with overkill. $500 more labor after the Gold X-Box controller, Mansion, the ultrawide CRT and other item bounties, excessive servers for operations, and all that is just... Let me try to explain this.

We see you fling money around and joke how you'll get in trouble with Yvonne, but $500 for labor to get something right? Or at least to be fair to those involved? It'd be less upsetting if you hadn't gotten rid of the product when you shouldn't have. At the same place where you spotted a proto-type backpack and went "well, that's not good."

Fundamentally, I don't think you understand why we've trusted you for so many years and why having a laundry list showing so many mistakes is so concerning, or why the context of those mistakes (context like complaining about labor for the sake fairness, while throwing money at other things for novelty) impacts that.

This isn't a character assassination from anyone that matters, it's a bunch of people who care about this to some extent trying to get your attention and tell you we're concerned. The nature of the internet can kind of make it hard to parse from the inelegant crap comments floating around. But you need to read it from that perspective and understand that not addressing this properly is going to hurt you in the long run.

This modern iteration LMG seems like... everyone there is stopping to ask "are we getting this right?" but the because the current pipeline is so focused on scheduling, no one's waiting for anyone to answer the question.

Still doesn't matter. There's no excuse for not properly reviewing it. It is also concerning is that he doesn't see doing it wrong as a problem.

As a original subscriber back all the way in the days of NCIX, it does hurt me to see what I slowly believe is the decline of what was once quality content. I no longer watch any of LTTs review videos simply because I don't trust them to be accurate. However that isn't an issue for me (personally) as I've got other outlets for that kind of content, I've learned to watch LTT for the wacky content. However what I cannot forgive is the slandering of a start up company who trusted you to review their prototype product properly only for you to ignore their instruction, then drag their name in the mud by telling people to not buy, and then now to top it all off, sell their one of a kind prototype that costed them probably a lot of money to make.
 
I'm not sure I want to stay subscribed to LTT anymore, and I seriously hope that your response changes and that its just a heat of the moment snap response to what has happened, I don't usually comment on things like this but I feel very passionately about this as LTT has to be one of my longest subscribed channels after NCIX back in the day. It would be a real big shame if I felt that I didn't want to support LTT anymore. 

Because he has no defense. The inaccuracies are what they are, what they did to Billet is what it was. "We're trying to get better, why is everyone being so mean to us? And also the money from selling off Billet's IP went to charity so it's all fine and we'll send them a check trust me bro" is all he's got. 

This is at the core of so much of what's wrong with LTT, I think.
 
Linus is running (yes, yes, not the CEO anymore, spare me) a multimillion dollar enterprise with (checks website)... Good God, over 80 employees now. But he still acts like, and seems to be expect to be treated like, some random guy making YouTube videos solo in a bedroom. 

I haven't been on this forum for years as I parted ways due to numerous issues with LTT (all stemming from the focus on growth rather than the consumer) but I was deeply saddened that things have only gotten worse.  I'm not here to throw stones, only beg that LMG please take the criticism constructively, rather than just disregard it as some kind of attack.  LTT was how I first got involved in tech, back when you were a small channel, so even though I don't watch most of your videos anymore, it still holds meaning to me.  I have no desire for you to fail.  Just slow down and focus on ethical practices, rather than capital. Yes, companies that focus on the consumer most usually don't grow as fast or make as much money, but you need to decide what's more important to you.
 
You're being treated like a corporation and not an individual because that's what you are. You can't view everything as a personal attack on your character.

I can happily say I do not. 

can you please provide which details he missed? 
 
I mean... is he wrong about anything at all regarding this? or are you just mad he didn't write you in advance so you could prep for the mess that the video is causing? 
 
"You need to slow down and think.... " would be a great advice for several LMG channels 

will you also compensate them to the irreprable damage to the brand that your video that has (as of writing) 1.4 million views caused?
the video where you mess up the testing and report garbage data and then arrive at the "DO NOT BUY" wich later in the wan show comments you doubled down on

maybe those 500$ of manhours are rather cheap in comparison to a company getting its entire reputation destroyed because a man refused to read instructions or retest the device after doing it wrong