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  1. Long story short, the best and easiest course of action is to just put together the entire build like you would a new PC. Back up all your data (documents, photos, etc., and perhaps game libraries from Steam etc.) to an external drive. Then, just install Windows on the SSD fresh (wiping the contents of the SSD). Finally, just put back all your data from the external drive. When swapping motherboards, it is best to do a fresh install. Windows has a lot of drivers etc. baked in for certain chipsets, controllers, etc. It will get confused when you swap CPU + motherboard without a fresh install, and things might not work properly. Plus, it gives you the benefit of doing a "fresh start" for any unwanted clutter that might be on your system over time. This only applies to motherboards. Generally you can swap out GPU, PSU, RAM, and even CPU (on the same socket) without an entire reinstall. But not motherboard. Finally, it is recommended to go with Windows 11 for a 12th gen Intel build, because Windows 11 knows how to handle the P + E cores, Windows 10 does not. Your current PC is probably Windows 10, so there is that as well.
  2. Given your budget, I would get a 12700K and Z690 motherboard, which will be nice and fast single core for Photoshop (and gaming as well). I would get a RTX 3080 or 3080 Ti GPU right now, given your big budget, as it offers very good performance and pricing has come down significantly. Keep in mind that newer GPU's are set to launch late this year, so now might not be the best time to invest. That being said, availability will probably be bad at first, so you can also take advantage of lowered pricing now. AIO not sure, the Asus one I found is the only white one with LCD. Pretty dumb way to spend your money in my opinion, as you can get an amazing air cooler for like 60 USD (Arctic 34 Esports Duo or Deepcool AK620) Note: these are not necessarily the components I would choose, but if they have to be white and/or with RGB, I come up with these below. Good luck! PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Best Buy) CPU Cooler: Asus ROG STRIX LC 360 RGB White Edition 80.95 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($249.99 @ ASUS) Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Steel Legend ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB Vision OC Video Card ($1095.00 @ Amazon) Case: Asus ROG Strix Helios ATX Full Tower Case ($259.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Amazon) Total: $2474.93 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-13 04:18 EDT-0400
  3. Typo, my bad, I actually meant the 3080Ti vs 3080 pricing. In my opinion the 3080 MSRP at $699 was "normal pricing" at the time. The 3080Ti released just 9 months after the 3080 for 70% price increase, for 13% performance increase. This is not just "inflation pricing". Inflation is like 8-10%. This was just Nvidia "Scalping" its own GPU's because of the shortage. It was Nvidia kicking themselves for selling the 3080 "too cheap", and course correcting by releasing a much more expensive card at essentially the same performance tier. They probably cut production of 3080s in favor of 3080Ti's, They also did the same when they released a 12GB model of the 3080, that they could sell for WAY more than the 10Gb model, at almost no performance increase. They probably cut production of the 10GB models so they could sell more of the 12GB model. I have seen anecdotal evidence of people who backordered a 3080 10GB back in 2020, and it NEVER came back in stock at the retailers. They just started coming out with newer, more expensive SKU's that they could profit more from. This is just free market economics. But people who claim Nvidia "didn't benefit" from the shortage and inflated prices are just wrong. I am not saying the 1630 should be gaming oriented, I know there is a market for these cards for HTPC's etc. I am saying the 1630 should be a sub $100 product. The 1030 was 79 USD. This is 200 USD for basically some video outs and a decoder? Gimme a break. In a "normal" market they couldn't get away with that, as people would just grab a used RX570 or something for $100 if they needed some video outs. The 1630 was intended as a pure cash grab by Nvidia. Hopefully nobody will buy it now.
  4. You are not wrong, but I am more referring to the fact that due to inflation, people need to spend more of their money on housing, gasoline, etc. So they would cut back spending on trivial things like graphics cards.
  5. It is possible Nvidia charged more to their AIB's behind the scenes, although we will never know for sure. They did profit from higher pricing on founders' edition cards they sell direct to consumers. Also Nvidia purposely inflated the MSRP of new models introduced during the shortage, so they did directly increase pricing on their end. The 1080Ti was WAAAY more expensive MSRP than the 3080 for example: $699 USD vs $1190, for very little performance gain. Why? To make sure they are getting a bigger piece of the pie. It was reported the only reason they made so many new SKU's of products was in order to capitalize on the newly inflated market. A final point is the release of the 1630, a terrible value product, that they could only hope to sell in a market that suffers from terrible shortages. They planned this release during the shortage, and now it is blatantly evident it is just a ripoff. Not saying I would expect anything else from Nvidia, but it is what it is.
  6. Boy, that turned sour for them pretty fast... At the start of 2022, they couldn't keep enough GPU's on shelves. Now, only 6 months later, there is an oversupply and they cannot even give them away. It turned very quickly from: - Miners buying everything to --> miners selling off their rigs. - People wanting to spend money --> People holding off spending due to inflation - People being drawn to 30 series --> people holding off for 40 series later this year. I am seeing in my local market (EU) the first signs that miners are liquidating their GPU's. Sellers on second hand websites with 5+ GPU's for sale, some acknowledging that they were used for mining. At the same time new GPU's prices have fallen off a cliff, although still at or above MSRP in most cases. They will have to drop prices even further, to BELOW MSRP, if they are ever to sell all the stock they have left. I am thinking of waiting a few more months, and then snapping up a dirt cheap used 20 or 30 series. Pricing will continue to fall off a cliff. Time to finally replace my old 980Ti.
  7. Aha, you are correct. I was somehow under the impression the 12600 had more (E) cores but it does not. They both have 6 P-cores and 0 E cores. In that case, either step up to the 12700 (8 P cores + 4 E cores), or stick with the 12400.
  8. Don't really know if I understand this question. Why would x86 desktop PC's stop existing exactly? There is a huge ecosystem of PC's that rely on X86, every office computer, production computer, etc. in the world relies on it. Thousands of software applications rely on x86. It will be around for a LONG time yet (decade or more at least). Additionally, every gaming desktop in existence is X86. I don't see ARM or anyone else catching up anytime soon to replace the combination of Intel / AMD + Nvidia / AMD. The GPU performance of a Apple M2 for example still cannot match or exceed the raw power of those combinations. They are more energy efficient, but that isn't a huge problem for desktops. The only thing I can think of is the widespread adoption of cloud gaming like Xbox Game Pass + streaming. But Google Stadia has shown that not every type of game lends itself towards that, and latency is always going to be a problem. We are going to need much faster connections with much lower latency before Cloud Gaming will kill off console and desktop ownership. So no, save your money, you will still be able to build a desktop in 5 years time. Even thinking of upgrading with your current rig is kind of absurd.
  9. This would be a good balanced build, well within your budget. I would choose Intel over AMD for lower power consumption, and AM4 is a dead platform that I wouldn't invest in at the moment. If you are gaming at 144Hz, the 12600 is worth it over the 12400 I would say. Will be a bit more future proof. If you want to spend your entire budget, you could consider spending the extra money on a 3080Ti or 3090. But really the smartest choice is to get the build below, and save the rest of your money for future upgrades. Good luck! PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-12600 3.3 GHz 6-Core Processor (€248.64 @ Galaxus) CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler (€39.98 @ Aquatuning) Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€159.89 @ Mindfactory) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€104.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€109.99 @ ARLT) Video Card: Palit GeForce RTX 3080 10GB 10 GB GamingPro Video Card (€881.60 @ Computeruniverse) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (€102.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€112.56 @ Amazon Deutschland) Total: €1759.56 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-11 10:05 CEST+0200
  10. This place charging a "build fee" is a little disingenuous, as all the parts are allready marked up in price in my opinion. As the build by @Omar.Bshows, you can get a lot better for less money. Especially the GPU, the 3050 is really a weak choice, and I would want a lot better for the budget of 1400 USD. I would agree, try and find a better deal online, or if you live near a Microcenter, get your parts there and have them assemble it for you. I would also agree that building it yourself is NOT hard, especially nowadays. When I got into PC building 20 years ago, it was a lot harder. Now everything is really just plug it in and go. But I understand some people are not comfortable or don't want to learn / deal with it. So getting a local shop or Microcenter to build it for you is probably the best bet. If you are going online prebuilt, take a look at Gamers' nexus reviews of the prebuilts. The quality and cost varies WILDLY. Some are good, some are terrible and rip you off. There were a handful of prebuilt supliers that were actually decent, so do some research. Good luck!
  11. For 1080p gaming, the 7400 will definitely be holding you back. The Vega 56 should still be a decent GPU for lighter games, so I agree with your assessment to upgrade the CPU first. 12100F is not a bad CPU, but it is a budget option. I would opt for a 12400f to be a bit more future proof. The 12100f wont last you as long before you feel like it needs an upgrade probably. The MSI Pro B660-A is a go-to motherboard for 12th gen Intel. 1440p monitor I am not sure about recommendations. Check out Hardware Unboxed, they do a lot of monitor reviews. 300 USD should get you a decent 1440p 144hz monitor these days, I know that much. On the PSU: no need to upgrade if the wattage is still sufficient for you. A good quality PSU can last you 10 years. That EVGA model should be good enough. But if you plan to upgrade to a GPU that is super powerful, like a 3070 or something, the 500Watts will not be enough. 500 Watts will be enough for a RTX 2060/3060 class GPU probably. Good luck!
  12. I would go with the 5600G build. If a dedicated GPU is out of the question, the extra GPU performance of the 5600G would be nice. Perhaps stretch the budget for a 5700G, since you get more cores and a faster iGPU?
  13. This is true. I still remember the Blackberry diehards back then: But I need a physical keyboard! I never want an all screen device! No matter how you look at it, most people would agree other manufacturers DID kind of rip off the iPhone. Sure, most of the technology existed already. But Apple combined several key features, popularized it and made it into a package people wanted to use. Other manufacturers took their design and made their own version of it. Whether that is something that is "illegal" is up to the lawyers to decide.
  14. In that case, I'd recommend something like this: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler ($48.07 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($149.99 @ B&H) Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Adorama) Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 12GB LHR 12 GB VENTUS 3X PLUS OC Video Card ($799.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ Corsair) Power Supply: Corsair RM (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Corsair) Total: $1573.00 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-06 05:51 EDT-0400
  15. 12100 CPU iGPU? UHD 730 benchmarks: -Rocket league: about 85-90 fps at 1080p - CS:GO: About 45-50 fps at 1080p. So that, plus or minus 2-4 fps for the faster or slower RAM probably. Is that worth it? Only you can decide.
  16. Intel Alder Lake memory scaling benchmark: https://www.techspot.com/article/2402-intel-alder-lake-memory-scaling/ TLDR: There is absolutely no CPU performance difference between 3200 and 3600 Mhz. That being said, for the iGPU it does matter. But will it be a noticeable difference? Probably not. According to below benchmarks (which is for AMD Vega APU mind you), the difference between 2800 and 3300 mhz is 1-4 fps, depending on the game. Plus diminishing returns above 3300 Mhz, so probably 2fps difference between 3200 and 3600 I would say. https://www.anandtech.com/show/12621/memory-scaling-zen-vega-apu-2200g-2400g-ryzen/3 Will you notice that? Probably not, but if you are struggling to get 30 fps, I'd take any frame I can get. The difference between 30 fps and 28 fps is 7%. Considering the price difference on the whole system is probably like equivalent to 6-8 USD (considering US RAM prices), I'd take it. On a system that costs 600 USD, you are spending 1% more, for 7% more gaming performance. In that logic, it is a good investment.
  17. First of all, not sure what you mean by "forever PC". Nothing lasts forever in PC land, and all products will eventually fail. Also, components get outdated at least every 5 years, no matter how much money you spend up front. That being said, I think there are smart investments you can make, certain components that will last you many builds: - A good case can last you 15 years and several builds/upgrades easily. If not longer. Currently I would recommend the Fractal Design Torrent, universally praised, great manufacturer that stands behind their products. - A good Power supply can last you a long time, and makes sure your system runs problem free. Seasonic make excellent PSU's. The Prime series comes with a 12 (!) yr warranty. - A good CPU cooler can last you several builds, and good manufacturers provide brackets for future upgrades to newer CPU sockers. Noctua NH-D15 is the gold standard in high end air coolers, and Noctua is a very well respected brand that will surely provide brackets for future support. All other components are kind of in the upgrade cycle, and quality really depends from product to product. All can fail at any given time. - CPU: i would go for a non OC CPU, if you want the system to run as maintenance free as possible. - RAM: I think Corsair makes good reliable RAM, but other manufacturers do as well. - Motherboards: Many people like Asus, but I have had good experiences with MSI, Gigabyte, Asrock, it just depends on the model. - GPU: EVGA is known for good products and very good customer service. They even extend the warranty to second hand owners. I have yet to see much negative reviews of an EVGA product. - SSD: Samsung is highly regarded, but other manufacturers make good products too: Crucial, Corsair, etc. I don't really know what is needed for music production, but judging from your budget and usage, I would go for something like this: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core Processor ($312.97 @ B&H) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($114.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ Adorama) Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB XC3 ULTRA GAMING iCX3 Video Card ($589.99 @ Amazon) Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case ($174.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Platinum 850 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($221.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1884.85 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-05 03:51 EDT-0400 Good luck
  18. I for one, who is definitely not a robot, also believe Mr. Albert Willie has GREAT cryptocurrency advice and investment opportunity.
  19. No offense, but judging from your leaflet and your replies, you don't seem to really know what you are doing. Perhaps try and get a (part time) job at a local computer repair shop. See how you like it and how it works out. See how they run the business, and learn from that. See how they advertise, how they get customers, etc. Good luck.
  20. Correct. I'd say get the below list, with a 12th gen CPU at least, and use your remaining budget to shop for a used GPU. For the remaining 226 USD, you should be able to get a used GTX 1080 or RTX 2060 (Super) on Ebay, which should perform significantly better than an RX6600. You'll need to shop around for a good deal though, but they sell for that much on occasion looking at completed listings on Ebay. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($106.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: ASRock H610M-HVS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($46.97 @ Amazon) Storage: TEAMGROUP MS30 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($34.79 @ Newegg) Case: Metallic Gear Neo Silent ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Deepcool DA500 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($46.25 @ Amazon) Total: $374.98 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-04 07:55 EDT-0400
  21. I just looked at some Elden ring max settings benchmarks, and the RTX 3060 gets about 75 fps average at 1080p max detail. But the 1% low is 51 fps. So it cannot get a solid 60fps. If you really want to play demanding games, and considering his monitor is 144Hz, I would stretch for a RTX 3070 personally. That gets 103 fps average with 1% low of 74 fps. I consider the RTX 3060 quite slow for the money honestly. If you want the GPU to last a bit longer than 2 years for AAA games, I'd get something faster. If you save a bit here and there, without too much compromise could get a RTX 3070 in there almost within budget: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor (€183.90 @ Alza) CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK400 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler (€36.90 @ Alza) Motherboard: MSI PRO B660-A DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€162.90 @ Alza) Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (€55.90 @ Alza) Storage: Western Digital Green SN350 960 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€90.90 @ Alza) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 LHR 8 GB VISION OC Rev 2.0 Video Card (€666.90 @ Alza) Case: SilentiumPC Signum SG1 TG ATX Mid Tower Case (€51.90 @ Alza) Power Supply: SeaSonic CORE GM 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (€83.90 @ Alza) Total: €1333.20 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-04 13:32 CEST+0200
  22. Your machine is still really powerful, and should be perfectly capable of running most games at 1440p / 60. But you are running a widescreen 1440p monitor, which obviously takes more power to run than a standard one (more pixels). I also wouldn't expect you to get more than between 60-90 fps in demanding games on high / ultra settings on that resolution. Seems perfectly normal to me. I think also the games you mention are perhaps not optimized very well, so they demand a very strong GPU to be played at higher settings. If you really want to hit 144 fps like your monitor is capable of, you will need to get a more powerful GPU. Personally, I don't think it is worth the money. I would wait another year or so at least to upgrade. If you are seeing sudden dips in performance (frametime issues), there might be something else going on. Again, either the game is just not optimized, or perhaps there is a software issue. Make sure to update all your drivers to the latest version (especially GPU driver), try reinstalling the game, or if all else fails, reinstall windows. What you can also do is take a look at your GPU temps / clock speed. Perhaps it is clocking back under load due to dust buildup, and/or high temps. Good luck.
  23. Your current system is a perfectly capable machine. Your parents gifted you this machine probably 2 years ago or less, judging from the CPU. It would be reasonable that they would feel like you are wasting THEIR money, not yours, if you go and replace it now. Seems like a thoughtless thing to do to your parents. Don't expect them to gift you cool stuff in the future. Spend your money on something else, or save it for when your pc REALLY needs an upgrade.
  24. Very good list of components, not much I would change. The only thing I find a bit overpriced is the motherboard. Could go with this one from Gigabyte, would probably be about the same level as the Asus Prime: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WQBG3C/gigabyte-z690-ud-ax-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-ud-ax-ddr4
  25. I would go for something like this: - beefy cooler - 32GB of RAM is more than enough for your usage. Can always add another 32 GB later. - DDR5 does not make sense right now. - I would get a high airflow case like the Corsair 4000D or the Fractal Torrent. - I would say get a fast SSD for video editing, since it should speed up if the software has to read files from the SSD. SOmething like the 980 Pro. Now you are listing an entry level SSD for video editing, and quite fast SSD's for gaming. I would do the other way around. You could save money and get cheaper SSD's than the 970 Evo for gaming. - Do you really need 4 TB of SSD's worth of game space + another 4TB on a HDD? Seems overkill. SSD's continually get faster and cheaper, so you can always add more if you run out of space later on. - Motherboard is probably a good one, although there are cheaper options out there. Good luck! PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i7-12700KF 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor (€411.90 @ Alza) CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€77.99 @ Galaxus) Motherboard: MSI MAG Z690 TOMAHAWK WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€238.90 @ Alza) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (€117.31 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€185.99 @ Mindfactory) Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€185.99 @ Mindfactory) Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€249.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (€78.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) Storage: Western Digital Blue 6 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (€107.90 @ ARLT) Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case (€109.15 @ Amazon Deutschland) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G6 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Total: €1763.03 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-30 20:57 CEST+0200
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