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Oh no, now the 5900X is tempting me, I didn't look at that. I didn't realise that was on par with the 5800X3D on price. I'd rather have the extra FPS but I guess it comes down to whatever I can find cheapest.

Hey LTT forum, I'm stuck with the choice of what's said in the title. My birthday is coming up and I'm considering a CPU upgrade from my R7 1700 I recieved for free with my motherboard in 2020. When I got my 1080Ti last year, it was clear there was CPU bottlenecks in many games and I also had to underclock my ram since 3200mhz wasn't stable anymore. Right now on Amazon the 5700X is £160 new with not much discount if used, and I see the 5800X3D used for at least £230 (new = £274). I'm not new to used hardware, my CPU, GPU and Motherboard are all used. The only failiures I've had with used hardware is an evga 980Ti SC+ dying after 4 years, an evga 780Ti SC half dying after 2 years, and also a 4TB SSHD which I stopped using after one scary hiccup (no data loss on that though, but it was replaced immediately after 4+ years). So I'm not worried about the used option, especially with one option having a warrenty mentioned below. Quick PC specs: GA-AX370-Gaming 5 Ryzen 1700 OC'd to 3.7ghz, cooled by a Hyper 212X x4 8GB Vengance DDR4 at 2933 (32GB) AORUS 1080Ti I've looked at LTT and GN videos on 3rd-5th-7th gen Ryzen, and I'm seeing the 5800X3D is very strong but the 5700X seems better value and much more power efficient. There seems to be a Starfield game code promotion with AMD currently so that's tempting if Amazon has it. I cannot see any clear indication if it does. One used option here in the UK has a 2 year warrenty so that's also great if I choose the 5800X3D. Also I'm not considering the 5800X since that appears to draw more power than the 5800X3D and has barely better performance than the 5700X. I usually do more workstation tasks than gaming but without the 1700 bottleneck that would most likely tempt me to game more. I either game on my racing simulator setup with a standard 1080p60 monitor, I do FPS games on a 1080p 144htz monitor and I do casual games on a 4K60 monitor if the PC can handle it. I'm really stuck here since the 5700X seems very efficient and just very good value, especially if it has a free game. But the used price of the 5800X3D seems very tempting for the high performance it has, and for bonus it has a 2 year warrenty despite being used. Either way £160 - £230 is still a lot of money for somebody who doesn't upgrade their PC a lot, but as a birthday present I might be able to spend the extra needed for the 5800X3D. Thanks for reading and I'm excited to see any replies since I'm very stuck on this one.

So since I couldn't find any more info on the internet, I decided to clean install windows on a new 970 Evo Plus m.2 ssd I got along with the ram. However after 5 hours I couldn't get it to install. I decided to admit defeat but then suddenly all 32gb of ram was working in my regular Windows 10, I don't know what happened but now it's working. Sorry if you've come looking for a solution, I have no idea why it's suddenly working.

Thanks but that seems unnecessary. For now, if I want to use my speakers I have to uninstall the realtek driver, and if I want to use my mic I have to reinstall since the mic sounds broken without the driver. I've submitted a gigabyte esupport ticket about the issue but no reply yet.

I'll start by apologising for starting a topic that has been asked a lot, but since everybody's system is different and no fix has worked for me, it'd be worth asking myself. I just got a second kit of the exact same memory I got for my system over 2 years ago and that is 'Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB)' so now I have 32gb in total. I've just installed it, first time resulted in a boot loop so I reseated them, then the system booted as normal and the BIOS recognised the 32gb. In Windows 10 the new ram is hardware reserved and all the fixes I've seen either don't apply to me or did not fix anything. My system specs are: AORUS AX370-GAMING 5 on BIOS T51d Ryzen 1700 @ 3.7ghz (I'm aware 1st gen doesn't like 3200, the ram was clocked to 2933 a few months ago, and yes it bottlenecks the GPU) 2 sets of Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB), as previously mentioned, @ 2933mhz. AORUS 1080Ti, completely stock EVGA 750W PSU (Not going to list all the drives I have since that wouldn't be related I imagine) Windows 10 Pro 64bit So far I've turned on memory management and changed the maximum memory on boot. Other fixes I've seen do not apply to me since posts and articles I've read seem really old and out of date. The pagefile change seems completely unrelated to me, but just for reference I set a 10gb page file 2 years ago and don't seem the need to change it. I'm not sure what else I can try, the ram has been reseated and there doesn't seem to be any BIOS settings that I can change either. The ram slots should be fine since I swapped the previous 16gb around a few months ago while troubleshooting something else. Any help would be greatly appreciated since 16gb doesn't cut it for what I do any more. Thanks. Update: Updating BIOS to latest version did not change anything.

Hey everyone, Lately I've been having issues with Line In from my monitor being forced to a specific audio output. Long story short I switch my middle monitor's display input to a console and use Line In from the monitor to pass through the audio to my PC so I can easily switch audio output. But lately the audio was unable to be switched to a specific output, it would always randomly choose one and stick to it. So I decided to re-install my motherboard's Realtek drivers, I got the most up to date one on the motherboard's driver page. Sadly I lost the Realtek app that sits in the icon tray because now I have to use the UWP app which seem to suck. My rear mic works fine and my headphones are plugged in via USB, but my speakers suddenly no longer work. I have tested them with a different rear output and my phone. A different 3.5mm rear output doesn't change anything and the speakers still work fine when using my phone. I've noticed videos on YouTube seem to break when changing audio settings if that means anything. In the audio control panel settings the audio test fails to play. I'm not sure what else I can try, I've re-installed the drivers a few times to see if anything changes but at least 1 thing seems to break between Line In or the speakers. Any help with this would be appreciated, thanks.

Ahh okay then, I never thought ram would be the issue since I've ran it at 3200 for so long. Looking at the AX370 Gaming 5 QVL ram list, my CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 sticks do not seem to be listed so I'll see if lowering the speed fixes the issues.

I've had the same Corsair Vengeance LPX 16gb (8GBx2) DDR4 at 3200 for over 2 years (XMP profile 1 on my motherboard), it's never given me issues with my previous 780Ti and Ryzen 1700. When I got the Motherboard and CPU together in early 2020, the RAM was bought new.

I'm confident in downgrading/upgrading the BIOS that's in use at the moment, that's easy. It's just all the issues started after I went from F42b to F51f onwards. Overclocked or not, BSOD will happen in games. I don't think I can go lower than F41 though, there seems to be a specific upgrade order so I wouldn't want to go too low. Gigabyte doesn't have F42b on the product support page so going back to what I previously had isn't an option. I should test F50e and F41 at least, maybe the crashing is a 51 issue.

Hey everyone, this is a continuation of my previous topic 'Need help with 1080Ti low GPU usage in games'. For context, I've found out from the previous topic that my Ryzen 1700 isn't good enough to run my new AROUS 1080Ti for it's full potential. Somebody suggested to overclock the CPU to see if there was any changes in the GPU usage so that's what I set out to do, to see if it was a GPU issue or CPU issue. Before overclocking I decided to update the BIOS because why not, that seemed to be a sensible idea because I've had the motherboard for over 2 years and I have never been into the BIOS apart from turning on the XMP profile for my 3200mhz ram. My AORUS AX370 Gaming 5 was on BIOS version F42b and I updated to the newest version F51f which is less than 2 months old. I overclocked to 3.7ghz as that was where overclocking videos with the same motherboard had started. Long story short and after a full day of troubleshooting, F51f was unstable no matter if I overclocked or not. BSOD on the desktop or whatever I was doing. Next I tried the older versions, F51f to F51d to T51d. Every single one gave the same result overclocked CPU or not, my system would BSOD after roughly 10 mins of GTAV or even less in other games. I came to the conclusion my Wraith Spire cooler that came with the CPU was not enough, even at 100% speed (it was BSOD'ing when the CPU was at 68C ish). Fast forward to today, 10 days later, I've got my old Cooler Master 212X with a new AM4 bracket, a 2nd fan on the cooler and a 5th fan to my PC case. My PC is in the best setup it has ever been, but yet even with the new cooler running the CPU 15-20C lower in temps and at 3.8ghz/1.3V, it's still getting BSOD in games. However now, rather than about 10 minutes it gets about 30 minutes. My system has been fine for the 2 days I've ran it at 3.8ghz/1.3V with the 212X so I thought everything was okay. I even went onto GTAV and tried to stress the CPU for about an hour, no crashes. I then played Yakuza 6 for a short while, no crashes at all. With the fan curve it has now the CPU averages 53C using GTAV for reference. In short heavy tasks it could reach to 60C+ for a few seconds. I should point out that the errors Windows gave me were different each time so there's not 1 thing to focus on. SYSTEM SERVICE EXCEPTION (x2), MEMORY MANAGEMENT (x4), KMODE EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED, CRITICAL PROCESS DIED, PAGE FAULT IN NONPAGED AREA (x2), ATTEMPTED TO WRITE TO READONLY MEMORY The AORUS AX370 Gaming 5 does have a dual BIOS and the other BIOS on it is F6 from 2017. During my troubleshooting it was stable but any changes to the BIOS settings would give the same BSOD result as the new ones in games. If I want to downgrade further, next would be F50e then F41, but I'm not sure if they are worth trying at this point. The previous owner of the motherboard and CPU is a friend of mine and they told me they reached 3.8ghz/1.3V as their stable overclock so that's my end goal as new hardware is not an option for me. But first, why the BSOD...? I'll admit I've ran out of options now so I've come to you all for help once again. Luckily my productivity hasn't been slowed down, however I did get a BSOD today during working but maybe that was just Windows being Windows. My main specs are: AORUS AX370 Gaming 5 (T51d/F6) - Ryzen 1700 + 212X dual fan cooler - 16gb DDR4 3200 - AORUS 1080Ti (512.95, stock overclock) - Windows 10 Pro (21H1) Hopefully there's other things I can try. Thanks for reading.

I won't fill this GPU topic up with CPU/Motherboard info so I'll just update you all on what I think is happening and leave it at that. I think my Wraith Spire cooler on the 1700 isn't that good for when it's overclocked. It's hitting 65-69C at 100% fan usage and the fan sounds fairly weak for 100%. I've tweaked the fan curve and GTA V lasted a bit longer than before so I'm going to guess the CPU is over heating and crashing the PC. I have a spare Hyper 212X from my old CPU/Motherboard build but sadly it's from 2015 which means it has no AM4 bracket. I'll probably buy a new 212 Evo and sell my 212X to make up the cost. I'll add a reply to this topic if I get a new CPU cooler to successfully overclock my CPU to hopefully help my new 1080Ti, and I'll post the results I get. Thanks for the suggestions and advice everyone who replied. I now understand a new CPU would be best for the 1080TI but I'll try spend a little to get a little more out of the 1700 since a new CPU isn't an option for me at this time.

On my AX370 Gaming 5 motherboard I've been testing the latest BIOS versions and different CPU settings last night and the entirety of today. So it seems overclocking the CPU has made my whole PC crash after a certain point. Using GTA V to test, even when reverting back to default motherboard settings afterwards, the game or whole system crashes or blue screens after roughly 10 mins of gameplay. This has suddenly become a large disaster. I tried updating my backup BIOS to the 3 latest versions (F51f to F51d to T51d), all had the same crashing, either a game crash or blue screen. F51f would blue screen no matter what. I tried 3.7ghz with stock voltage and 1.3V, and I tried 3.8ghz with 1.3V. Both seemed to last the same amount of time in GTA V before crashing or blue screen. Using my main BIOS (version F6 from 06/2017) it was fine, but after trying 3.7ghz and 3.8ghz at 1.3V it's doing the exact same now as the latest versions. Even when reverting back to default motherboard settings afterwards the crashes still happen at around the same time. I got to admit, I'm very stuck right now. I'll try update/downgrade the backup BIOS further to see if I can get a safe version again. I have noticed better FPS with the higher clocks before the crashes but obviously there seems to be a fault with this motherboard so it's not worth it unless I'm doing something wrong here. Edit: Switched back to the backup BIOS with T51d on it, seems stable all of a sudden.

Well this is awkward, after testing some overclocks after a BIOS update it seems the new update is BSOD'ing my PC. I thought the overclocks were unstable but it seems to be the BIOS update. I guess I'll have to downgrade. I think I did notice an improvement in GTA V though at 3.7ghz, not by much but it's something. I'll come back tomorrow and let you know how it goes.

Oh okay, I thought the Ryzen 1700 was still a good cpu for this, it replaced my i7 4790k 2 years ago since I got a huge deal on the 1700, an AX370 Gaming 5 motherboard and 2 PSUs. I knew the single core of the 1700 was worse than the 4790k but I do a lot of productivity work so it seemed worth it for the multi core. I'm sure my previous 780Ti was getting higher fps in GTA5 so I feel like there might be more to this than just single core performance. Though a CPU upgrade was the last thing I was expecting. I don't think I'll be able to get a new one anytime soon. I suppose overclocking is the thing to try.

Hey everyone, last week I got an AORUS 1080Ti, it's my first gpu upgrade in 6 years and I'm very excited to get the most out of it! However there's a problem. Almost all the games I've played do not get the FPS I was expecting. I have a 1080p 144htz monitor and also a 4K TV I use from time to time, so the more FPS the better. I've set games at the optimal 1080p Geforce Experience settings with minor adjustments to quality or anti aliasing. I'll type a few results from Nvidia's performance overlay: GTA V Online, gpu usage would be 30-50% giving me FPS of 50-70 depending on the location. Really disappointing results in this game. Forza Horizon 5 (now uninstalled), gpu usage was at 76% in my last screenshot with fps of 88. Not bad but could be better. Yakuza 6, in my last screenshot that game had 43% gpu usage at 62 fps, again a lot of room for improvement. Yakuza 7 (now uninstalled), I tested 1080p, 1440p and 4K in this game. Usage went up each time but still wasn't the GPU's full potential. 1080p gave 60-80% usage and 67 fps in my last screenshot. Yakuza 0 did well, gpu usage of 81% with 183 fps in my last screenshot. Assetto Corsa (modded), that gave 98% gpu usage, that game was working as expected. As you can see, some games do pretty bad and some do okay. To try and fix the issue I've changed the settings in Nvidia control panel to focus on performance, my Windows 10 power plan is set to high performance and I've used different overclocking software or none at all. Nothing seems to have affected the gpu usage. During testing I noticed the gpu was boosting to 1949mhz, the boost clock of the card should be 1683/1708 according to the AROUS website, so I don't know what that's all about. Currently I have MSI Afterburner with the OC Scan settings enabled. My system has a Ryzen 1700 with 16gb DDR4 at 3200 with the games being loaded from a secondary hard drive (aka not the main Windows C drive). It has a 750W PSU so power shouldn't be an issue either. I should also note the gpu is not overheating, there are no stuttering issues, the cpu usage was not reaching anywhere near 100%, there is no background apps that would be using the gpu and drivers should be the latest. So yeah, I don't know what's happening here. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.