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They say ignorance is a bliss, sure is because the dumbest people I know are also the most confident people I know. 

  1. dizmo

    dizmo

    You don't have to be the smartest person to have people follow you. Look at Trump. Confidence is more often than not going to win over intelligence.

  2. Tech_Dreamer

    Tech_Dreamer

    Trumps got a prickly demeanor, but at the end of the day he talks confident shit & actually gets shit done & has a real list of wins to show the achievements compared to previous people & Admins who held the same job. you need some form of intelligence to top & excel on multiple criterias in life like that, He isn't doing  overconfident Hope speeches that goes nowhere outside of the stage.

  3. dizmo

    dizmo

    @Tech_Dreamer Haha, he's really not that great. Probably one of the worst Presidents the US has had, really. Sure, he's done a few good things, however he's also done a lot of harm, and I don't think it outweighs the good. He says things like "everyone would be very poor if I'm removed from office" which is blatantly false.

  4. Tech_Dreamer

    Tech_Dreamer

    if it were an acting job then sure he'd be the 'worst' , i agree he's not great. someone who says politically incorrect stuff on mic & SM, rigorous open criticism of other nations conduct or whatever & in a World stage political platform? he gives bad press & bad reviews. he is worst in that aspect. the major harm he's done is simply that . Not being politically correct to everyone.

     

    But he does the country what it needs to the best to his ability by the end of the day.  which is what the job of a president literally is. not just acting nice(although this is a thing that will do good for him if he pulled it off)

     

    His direct actions through policies & EO affected better trade deals, permanent jobs boosts instead of contractual temp jobs boost, Heavily improved national security & overseas asset security. literally his day 1 policy was "nation first" & which is what he's doing. To this day all of which have boosted the overall nations economy & worth. which if it's "really not that great" & "is the worst presidents doing" comparing outcome of just 3 years worth of results to previous admins should reveal who were doing "stuffs" on taking care of nation. His work results speaks volumes even if press doesn't speak about it .

     

    thats why you'll rarely never hear a NEWS agency complain about his economy, you rarely see them complain about his work/policy results.

     

    Just look at 96% of the bad news about him,  it's always superficial rants instead of actual critical news. always something about his looks & what he said (something said this way or that way)  what somebody thought of him , he should 'ACT' this way complains. a 3rd party reaction opinion, over inflating meanings &  word cues he used wrong. unverified Rumors & murky source outside accusations. it's simply ratings drama.

  5. dizmo

    dizmo

    Oh sure. He's "great."

    • Under Trump, an additional 3% of Americans lost their healthcare coverage.
    • His tax reform has raised taxes on the lower class.
    • His peak growth is still half what Obama's was.
    • His claimed job boosts? Yeah, Obama did 90% of the legwork on that, too. Most of the decrease was a result of his administration.
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      It's also worth noting that those who aren't looking for work aren't considered "unemployed"....an oddity with the way the US tracks statistics.

    • Trump doesn't have as much economic growth as the Obama administration...yet debt has soared and he's had ultra low interest rates. He should be doing better.

    • How about we look at the actual health of America? It's not good. The past 3 years has seen a steady decline in life expectancy, even though for decades it had been on an incline. Suicide rates are at their highest, something like 35% higher than 2000 while most of the world has seen a 30% decrease. Sure, this can't be directly tied to Trump, but as leader of the governing body it's up to him to help stop it, and in 2017 alone it saw a 4% increase. If people are happy, the economy is good, you wouldn't see people killing themselves at that rate. As more people get their healthcare cut, these problems will only become worse.

     

    If you're rich? Or a corporation? Yeah. Trump is great.

  6. Tech_Dreamer

    Tech_Dreamer

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    Under Trump, an additional 3% of Americans lost their healthcare coverage.

    which is as a result of individual mandate affecting Obamacare fund cuts & that premiums hiking & shooting right up for it. But at the end of the day due to his policy people get the right to choose to have a say on which one they want & not to be forced to be under one single forced ideological policy. 

     

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    • His tax reform has raised taxes on the lower class.

    Not sure where this is from, cant find the data on lower class tax hikes, all i heard is that he was pulling able bodied people off of food stamps & such which was causing a hassle . but good to note that working/middle class which got the individual mandated tax cuts because of his direct policies.

     

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    His peak growth is still half what Obama's was.

    they literally did a presentation on this last week.comparing the economy, Obama had a really nice boost from federal reserve at times because there were multiple times when the GDP was tankin ^ wrecking & recession sometimes hitting -1. that F reserve overinflated hit/assisted boost is literally the Obama's Peak growth , recovering from recession where it dipped down. where as Trump has a solid base each quarter, very rarely tanking down or plummeting to anything considerable to be weak or half assed.   the graph literally looks like depleting chaotic panic throughout versus stable progress & confidence. which economy one prefer is easy when you're looking at it.

     

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    https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2020-economic-report-of-the-president/

     

    also an old comparison on "continuation of the trend" :

     

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    • His claimed job boosts? Yeah, Obama did 90% of the legwork on that, too. Most of the decrease was a result of his administration.

     

    Fun fact : that 90+% of the Obama "leg work" was for as i said previously for temporary & time framed contract jobs , a so called temporary sugar rush policy.

    https://www.investing.com/news/economy/nearly-95-of-all-job-growth-during-obama-era-part-time,-contract-work-449057

    https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/markets/nearly-95all-new-jobs-during-obama-era-were-part-time-or-contract-938958.html

     

    versus raw power policies that forces Manufactures prefer US & forced them to start bringing jobs back, Cutting outsourcing jobs, improving confidence in local businesses , majority of them being permanent, You know, The magic wand wave thing apparently he wasn't supposed to wave & do magic with.

     

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    Trump doesn't have as much economic growth as the Obama administration...yet debt has soared and he's had ultra low interest rates. He should be doing better.

    ^^ my previous comment above this answer should suffice the first part & you're right on the debt part , it is higher , Not sure how he's working that one out , but looking at those other administrations patterns it seems like it's bound to go up & he has oddly promised to bring it down , but haven't shown result for it.

     

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    How about we look at the actual health of America? It's not good. The past 3 years has seen a steady decline in life expectancy, even though for decades it had been on an incline. Suicide rates are at their highest, something like 35% higher than 2000 while most of the world has seen a 30% decrease. Sure, this can't be directly tied to Trump, but as leader of the governing body it's up to him to help stop it, and in 2017 alone it saw a 4% increase. If people are happy, the economy is good, you wouldn't see people killing themselves at that rate. As more people get their healthcare cut, these problems will only become worse.

    This part is just disconnected to the case of trump, But still here's the thing, He's far more actively involved in opioid crisis management which affects youth hitting the actual sources of it in Border near Mexico that poisons the system, tax reduction for working class.  working with close up communities with vision centers.prison reform policy. working on economy's confidence. Dude's selling Rice to china which is unheard of. that sorta trade deals that help US make profit & boost confidence in manufacturers help out a lot.

     

    Anyways, suicides are just about what comes out on state by state basis i guess , Quality of living & people around you heavily impacts it, hey if your living condition is poor in your state, rents are high due to whatever internal politics, jobs are hard to find & on top since illegals flooded into the system & is willing to do someones job for half the price or over inflates competency, Crime rates are boosted because of it, loans/bills add up.everything leads up to despair at the end,  He's literally fixing the problem the right way from one end compared to other admins who would put a pretty band aid on a big wound & call it a day. a sharp suture is hard & painful at the beginning, cleaning wound & working on it. but that's the real way to heal & bring results.

     

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    If you're rich? Or a corporation? Yeah. Trump is great.

    Rich & corporate,  i wonder how they became rich, Like they walked to each persons homes in the nation, forcefully took & robbed someones money & earnings to get to that status.  or maybe , just maybe they worked smart & hard, to earn it through business practices.  it's not like other people are barred from following the same teaching & earn degrees on it & do practices to get money the same way. but yet choose another career & end up in that regressing static income & complain others are doing bad by hoarding all the money.

     

    Unlike some politicians who think if a person earns something more from their work, other people are automagically entitled to that earning for their needs by default.There's this idea of fair responsibilities & earning the fruits of labor for each individual having the right to keep what they earn.

     

     

    Sorry for the wall *badum tiss* of text, but had a lot to explain.

  7. Evolution.

    Evolution.

    What have I started. I'm one of those people who dont even keep up with politics so my input would be straight out my ass.  I'm not gonna pretend like I know what I'm on about. 

  8. Tech_Dreamer

    Tech_Dreamer

    Sorry man, As Mike Tyson would say "ITHS POLITHIKZ" , The devil is always in the fine print details when it comes to the orange boi bad talks.

  9. Techstorm970

    Techstorm970

    @dizmo During Obama's presidency, 95% of America's earnings went to the top 1%.  Under Bush the son?  That figure was only 65%.  Sure, the Great Recession started during Bush, but it was almost entirely the banks' fault.  Obama pulled us out of it but took forever to do so.  This has nothing to do with Trump but it was brought up in my university's Intro to Sociology class.  Class wasn't perfect (cuz it's sociology...it can't be), but it still gave everyone who listened a good dose of reality.  ("Listened" is the key word.)

     

    At a more personal level for me, there were 3 cranes up in Denver at the end of 2016.  At the end of 2017?  Try 14 cranes.  Nothing in the Colorado state government changed much between those years, so clearly, Trump has done way more for Colorado's economy than Obama ever did, and in a shorter period of time, too!

     

    People also like to say that Trump doesn't care about the environment.  The answer is both yes and no.  On one hand, he's a total Boomer who refuses to believe in global warming/climate change (yes, it's real, yes, it's measurable, and yes, it's gradual).  He is also defunding the EPA (but simply reducing one's budget is not a form of "destruction" like my friends like to say ?).  However, he has also done something many thought to be impossible:  he made the United States oil independent, meaning we no longer need to import oil from the Middle East or anywhere else.  This means:

    • Greatly reducing import costs, thus boosting the economy.
    • Greatly reducing carbon emissions since we no longer need to cross an ocean to get oil.
    • Our only job in the Middle East is to keep peace now; any oil motivations are gone.  (a.k.a.  Foreign policy corruption greatly reduced.)
    • We can make our own solar panels and concrete with OUR OWN RAW MATERIALS now!  This also reduces emissions while accelerating our push for sustainable energy.

    "Trump hates science" is also bullshit.  For instance, NASA's budget has been increased.  NIH's budget is a little smaller, but it's really just that their priorities are different under Trump compared to under Obama.  Also, the military does a lot more science than a lot of people seem to realize, so...feeding them money isn't bad.

     

    Another thing to note:  Corporations and universities have much more incentive to innovate (because capitalism) and way fewer regulations than the federal government, so they will innovate way faster than any federal science institution will.  Thus, making science the business world's responsibility is actually not a bad idea.

     

    Another wall of text.  Sorry!  It's just...I'm a strong Trump supporter with conservative values who has been largely surrounded by socialists (big oof) for about a year, so I've made a point of educating myself about what's going on so I can defend my views when necessary.

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