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Generally speaking in the past, the previous generations Ti variant tends to match pretty closely to the next generation x70 line, give or take a % or two. 980 ti ~ 1070 780 ti ~ 970 (actually between a 970 and 980 depending on the game and resolution) So I would expect similar improvements going forward unless AMD and Intel's new discrete GPU roadmap give NVidia reason to push the envelope. 1170/2070 ~ 1080 ti I just want them to fix the 2way SLI scaling issues the latest line has. I'm a realist who is perfectly fine with "only" 40-50% scaling on average. However, is completely unacceptable to see negative scaling in so many situations. If I get 40% scaling in 50% of my games and 0-10% in the rest (with an outlier game that has SLI issues causing a loss in FPS), I can accept that and feel that its worth the cost to me to guarantee a rock solid 120 FPS @ 1440p UW in those 40% cases.

I understand what you are saying, and I probably will do most streaming at 720/60 due to the fact that I will primarily stream MMOs and racing games. I just would like to know that 1080/60p is a possible option for if twitch ups their bitrate caps again or I switch to YouTube streaming or something else that can do 10Mbs streams. I really think that the 7820x is going to be where i land. From all the research, it appears that it and the 7900x are capable of gaming at 7700k levels while completely blowing it away while streaming and doing workstation tasks. Since I'm just starting out in video editing, it's also not like I'll be rendering dozens of videos a month or anything so the 7820x should be a good entry point for me at this time. If things take off, I can always look forward to another upgrade to Cascade Lake in the future and possibly more cores as well. Seems to be the best compromise option for me. Besides, I looked and I'm not seeing the 8700k available on the EPP Intel website....so not sure what's going on there.

My overall goal is the following: Twitch Streaming x264 1080p/60, 6000 kbps, fast or faster preset Local Recording NVENC 1440p/60, lossless All while gaming at 1440p and hopefully maintaining 90-100FPS Using a GTX 1080TI GPU. May look into buying a 2nd one for SLI if it provides benefit (1080 SLI while just gaming at 1440p currently doesn't scalle very well and even shows negative scaling is many titles). If adding the streaming and local recording to the mix makes SLI useful again at less than 4k gaming, then I'll get a 2nd card.

The only reason I care,about PCI lanes right now would,be for x16 SLI. The MB I'm looking at,for x299 already has WhIg and I have a 40TB home NAS already for Plex and other storage so wouldn't use an HBA card either. I cant imagine x299 only being 1 generation. HEDT has routinely been a long term path for Intel chipset wise. Of course with AMD back in the CPU picture that could change things. And yeah...7900x for $495 VS $950+ for TR really makes me stick with Intel. I'm watching the reports on the existing issues and rumor has it a firmware update could fix the Meltdown issue. Plus its an issue that's been around for 15 years...so it will be interesting to see where things go. Plus at $495. the 7900x would have good resale value for me later down the road.

Primary Usage For This Built: 1080p and 4K Video Production (YouTube and Personal) Adobe Photoshop, Vegas Studio 15 Moderate Gaming (mostly MMOs and RPS. Not a shooter fan) Streaming gameplay (x264 1080p) while recording locally (1440p NVENC 160k bitrate) for editing later Possibly VR eventually I'm trying to decide which CPU to upgrade from my current 6700k. I get get Intel chips at ~50% price so they end up being a better value than AMD options as well. For post-edit rendering, I understand that its better to use CUDA rendering than CPU anyway, so I am more worried about being able to stream at high quality with the least amount of effect on personal gameplay FPS. I am also planning on re-encoding my movie library (>1000 movies) from 1080p x264 to HEVC as well as re-ripping all of my Music CDs to FLAC (now that I got a Receiver that plays them over network). I am a movie buff as well so I will continue to rip my movies BluRay and UHD to my Plex library quite regularly. I like the x299 platform for the productivity stuff I'll be doing, along with the AVX boost and it seems to game "good enough" for me (still over 120 FPS in AAA titles) compared to the 8700k. But I'm not sure I need the full 10c/20t option compared to just going with the 7820x and saving myself $200 ($297 vs $475). However, If the 8700k is capable of the audio/video work I'll be doing the small gaming boost for when I'm not streaming/editing would be nice as well and is another $100 cheaper compared to the 7820x ($205 vs $297). My biggest concern with the Coffee Lake option is that it's more of a dead end platform. x299 offers me upgrade options for I9 chips as well as more than likely being compatible with next gen HEDT chips, since the Enthusiast line usually lasts 2+ generations.

Thx...I know...the dead end that is z370 right now is why I am considering jumping into x299 with the 7820x.

I'm looking to upgrade my current CPU (i7-6700k) and can't decide on which one to get.I am a gamer who is starting to get into live streaming and youtube video creation. So while my 6700k is fine for playing games, it really doesn't do extremely well playing, 1080p/60 twitch streaming, and local recording (for editing and later uploading raid guides, etc...).I'm trying to decide between the 8700k, 7820x, and 7900x from Intel. AMD is not an option for me as I get 50% discount on Intel processors, so Intel wins the performance as well as price/performance race for me.I know the 7900x is a beast for streaming while gaming as well as production work (video editing and the like), but I don't know if I really need THAT much power for where I'm at right now (3-6 videos a month at most). The 8700k seems to resolve Intels issue with trying to game and stream at the same time that their 4c/8t CPUs had and is great for straight gaming while not streaming, but not sure how well it compares for productivity work and z370 is a dead end platform. The 7820x seems to be a good compromise and puts me in the x299 enthusiast realm as well.Looking for others opinions on the smart move in this situation.My workload will probably be:35% gaming only40% gaming/streaming/local recording all at same time25% video editing and renderingSo my options are:7900x for ~$5007820x for ~$3008700k for ~$200The cost of MB doesn't affect my decision here and everything else carries over from my existing system.

I've been considering a projector for a few months now after my 3 year old nephew threw his sippy cup through my old TV, and this looks like something that I could actually use in my limited space.