MercuryRain

Whether or not you qualify him as a journalist, he considers himself one and therefore he should be held to journalistic standards.  Especially when he acts in the capacity of a journalist as he did for the video on LTT ethics.

The quality of the feedback they are getting right now in most of these threads is...well.  non-existent.
 
To put it succinctly, most of our opinions, questions, and suggestions are worthless and I fully expect them to treat it as such.

Over the course of the Gamers Nexus video, Steve repeatedly blames Linus Tech Tips for not making corrections in their videos when inaccurate information was included, whether for various benchmarking charts, or a simple situation as the plastic coverings on the feet of the pwnage mouse.
 
And yet, over the past couple days, after we have seen the email chain where it has become very obvious that Billet Labs gave the waterblock to LTT with no expectation of ever getting back - we have the image screenshot, in writing, from their rep that LTT was supposed to keep the waterblock - he has not added that clarification to his own video, after making the clear implied accusation that Linus failed to return property which was not his.
 
Turns out, the property was his, and his team was, out of the goodness of their hearts, returning something that had been surrendered to them completely. 
 
To not include this detail in his video in any format - comment, caption, voiceover, what have you, is direct hypocrisy.  It doesn't matter if the rest of his video was correct - and it is.  That simple act is hypocritical, and that means even if he is correct in this situation, he is not right.
 
He did not make that video for altruistic reasons.  He did not make it to improve the journalistic and testing standards of tech youtube as a whole.
 
He made the video because he saw an opportunity to (once again, correctly) disparage a competitor and he knew, as long as he didn't make himself blatantly obvious that he isn't following his own rules, nobody was going to call him on it.
 
You are playing directly into that strategy and it has worked so well on you I shudder to think what happens when you see actual political debates and other things that actually matter.

"The trouble was just how long it took LTT to acknowledge this mistake.  This should have triggered deletion of the video basically immediately when they confirmed it was erroneous, a community post on youtube, a twitter post, and a timeline for the fixed video with corrections."

12:03 to 12:17 in the video this entire thread is about.
 
Later, at 33:54, he talks about how they auctioned the block off without Billet Labs' permission.
 
There should be a caveat in here stating that LTT maintained full ownership of the block per their prior terms with Billet Labs, and until Billet Labs actually receives the item back in their possession, it doesn't matter who at LTT says they're going to return it.  It is still not Billet Labs' property.  It later says they had a responsibility that was ignored.  Sure, but then any time you have ever said you would give someone $5 for a service they provided to you and it took them an extra 5 days, better cancel that person off the face of the planet.

By his own standards, once people started accusing Linus of being a thief while citing the GN video as proof, Gamers Nexus should have immediately deleted the video and issued clarifications on YouTube Community, Twitter, and released a timeline for when a corrected video would be released.
 
None of that has happened.
 
Let me repeat that; 

If Steve followed his own rules as he laid them down to LTT for ethics, the very video we are discussing would not exist right now.  It does, therefore I can only conclude that Steve is either a complete moron who forgot what he said less than 12 hours after he said it, or he knows exactly what he is doing and it was his intention to be a hypocrite all along, as long as it wasn't overly blatant.

The quality of the feedback they are getting right now in most of these threads is...well.  non-existent.
 
To put it succinctly, most of our opinions, questions, and suggestions are worthless and I fully expect them to treat it as such.

Then there was literally zero point to the video because journalistic accuracy and ethics is worthless and unnecessary. 

Steve stated in his last video about LTT that he "vetted" the timeline of events, and omitted the part where BL originally sent the Monoblock for LTT to keep as they "thought it would be good for you to have for future builds", and then later asked for it back. This nullifies communication Steve said he had with Billet Labs where they stated they are now stalled without their best prototype that they originally gave to LTT with no intention of getting back. This also invalidates the conjecture Steve had about fears of competitors seeing/ buying/ cloning this rare one of a kind mono block that was originally given away. 
 
So the question is:
Did A: Billet Labs misrepresent the situation by telling GN this was supposed to go out to other reviewers, that it set them back months and did immeasurable financial damage as they try to remake their best prototype, even though we now know it was never their intention to get the block back before the shitty review? That's shitty journalism, to only get one half of such a serious allegation and present it as fact.
 
Malicious? You decide. If it were anything else - someone saying you stole something for example - you would hope that whomever heard that would ask for your side of the story before repeating that allegation, and if they didn't, you'd feel as if it was done maliciously or without care.
 
Or B: GN knew more about the specifics but decided to omit that as it's easier to vilify LTT with comments about potentially ruining a 2 person startup than just falling back on the correct narrative the entire video was about, which was that LTT is a disorganized mess, and it was as simple as a part from the inventory side wasn't put back into the return to sender pile, simplified, of course. This would be malicious, as spinning the narrative to talk about a multimillion dollar company fucking over a small startup by effectively stealing their only prototype sounds a lot worse.
 
I dunno dude, you decide. I feel as though both options are pretty shitty for GN - either bad journalism, or malicious journalism. Journalism is their bread and butter, and it got the important details wrong on this one. 

The quality of the feedback they are getting right now in most of these threads is...well.  non-existent.
 
To put it succinctly, most of our opinions, questions, and suggestions are worthless and I fully expect them to treat it as such.

I'm guessing your day job is flipping burgers at a Wendy's.
 
I write environmental test reports to hand to the FAA. I know a thing or two about safety and testing ethics.

Fixed that for you. 🍻

Then there was literally zero point to the video because journalistic accuracy and ethics is worthless and unnecessary. 

This is where I have to assume people choose to ignore the fact they didn't need their permission and demonstrates the importance of reaching out to LMG for comment for context on a damning expose they're about to publish. Had people known it wasn't Billet's property anymore, it became a courtesy effort to send it back.

The commentary GN allowed that followed due to poor\lazy reporting was wrong.
 
The guy is on an iMax level projecting as he comes off as a fanboy for Steve. Only joined to dogpile and had no interest in an impartial discussion. People like that are bottomfeeders only interested in rubbernecking with little interest in course correction. No matter how hard anyone tries to discuss it, they repeat themselves and call you a stan for a reaction. Just ad hominem responses.

"The trouble was just how long it took LTT to acknowledge this mistake.  This should have triggered deletion of the video basically immediately when they confirmed it was erroneous, a community post on youtube, a twitter post, and a timeline for the fixed video with corrections."

12:03 to 12:17 in the video this entire thread is about.
 
Later, at 33:54, he talks about how they auctioned the block off without Billet Labs' permission.
 
There should be a caveat in here stating that LTT maintained full ownership of the block per their prior terms with Billet Labs, and until Billet Labs actually receives the item back in their possession, it doesn't matter who at LTT says they're going to return it.  It is still not Billet Labs' property.  It later says they had a responsibility that was ignored.  Sure, but then any time you have ever said you would give someone $5 for a service they provided to you and it took them an extra 5 days, better cancel that person off the face of the planet.

By his own standards, once people started accusing Linus of being a thief while citing the GN video as proof, Gamers Nexus should have immediately deleted the video and issued clarifications on YouTube Community, Twitter, and released a timeline for when a corrected video would be released.
 
None of that has happened.
 
Let me repeat that; 

If Steve followed his own rules as he laid them down to LTT for ethics, the very video we are discussing would not exist right now.  It does, therefore I can only conclude that Steve is either a complete moron who forgot what he said less than 12 hours after he said it, or he knows exactly what he is doing and it was his intention to be a hypocrite all along, as long as it wasn't overly blatant.

Ah.  So Steve is an idiot.  Glad we agree on something.
 
One Billet Labs gave the block to LTT and said that they were letting LTT keep it, what happens after that is nobody's fault.  Someone can TRY to get the block back to give it back to him once it's requested.  But there is no guarantee that that block is ever going to get back to Billet.  And it's silly to expect it would.  They gave it to someone. They gave it to someone FOR REVIEW, apparently with the unvoiced expectation that that review would be positive and life would be great for them. 
 
Anything that happened to them because of this situation is honestly their own fault.  If they can't handle the loss of a $2000 prototype that they gave away without any expectation of getting it back, they do not have a business.  Simple as that.  They have never had a business.  They have had a scam.  That's it. 
 
The context that has been added by you there is also something that Steve failed to add in his video.  He has just failed.  Spectacularly, I might add.  To follow his OWN GUIDELINES THAT HE SET FOR LTT in the VERY VIDEO HE SET THEM.

Correct. It's not.  Are you done introducing the strawman arguments yet?

We understand that Linus messed up.  We are not denying that.  I have literally zero idea where you are getting the idea that we are from.  We are saying that Gamers Nexus is not following their own advice to LTT for how to cover stuff objectively and it very much points out that they are not doing this purely altruistically.  Guess what, your parasocial relationship with GN is just as harmful to a society as anyone else's with Linus.
 
Y'gotta let it go, dude.

Jesus Christ do you ever stop?

Thoroughly well crafted and articulated response, and he is still refusing to engage with any points other than the one's we've refuted four times already and then going back to us thinking that Linus is our idol.
 
I give up.  He clearly has no capacity for comprehending the written English language.

Then there was literally zero point to the video because journalistic accuracy and ethics is worthless and unnecessary. 

"The trouble was just how long it took LTT to acknowledge this mistake.  This should have triggered deletion of the video basically immediately when they confirmed it was erroneous, a community post on youtube, a twitter post, and a timeline for the fixed video with corrections."

12:03 to 12:17 in the video this entire thread is about.
 
Later, at 33:54, he talks about how they auctioned the block off without Billet Labs' permission.
 
There should be a caveat in here stating that LTT maintained full ownership of the block per their prior terms with Billet Labs, and until Billet Labs actually receives the item back in their possession, it doesn't matter who at LTT says they're going to return it.  It is still not Billet Labs' property.  It later says they had a responsibility that was ignored.  Sure, but then any time you have ever said you would give someone $5 for a service they provided to you and it took them an extra 5 days, better cancel that person off the face of the planet.

By his own standards, once people started accusing Linus of being a thief while citing the GN video as proof, Gamers Nexus should have immediately deleted the video and issued clarifications on YouTube Community, Twitter, and released a timeline for when a corrected video would be released.
 
None of that has happened.
 
Let me repeat that; 

If Steve followed his own rules as he laid them down to LTT for ethics, the very video we are discussing would not exist right now.  It does, therefore I can only conclude that Steve is either a complete moron who forgot what he said less than 12 hours after he said it, or he knows exactly what he is doing and it was his intention to be a hypocrite all along, as long as it wasn't overly blatant.

Ah.  So Steve is an idiot.  Glad we agree on something.
 
One Billet Labs gave the block to LTT and said that they were letting LTT keep it, what happens after that is nobody's fault.  Someone can TRY to get the block back to give it back to him once it's requested.  But there is no guarantee that that block is ever going to get back to Billet.  And it's silly to expect it would.  They gave it to someone. They gave it to someone FOR REVIEW, apparently with the unvoiced expectation that that review would be positive and life would be great for them. 
 
Anything that happened to them because of this situation is honestly their own fault.  If they can't handle the loss of a $2000 prototype that they gave away without any expectation of getting it back, they do not have a business.  Simple as that.  They have never had a business.  They have had a scam.  That's it. 
 
The context that has been added by you there is also something that Steve failed to add in his video.  He has just failed.  Spectacularly, I might add.  To follow his OWN GUIDELINES THAT HE SET FOR LTT in the VERY VIDEO HE SET THEM.

Over the course of the Gamers Nexus video, Steve repeatedly blames Linus Tech Tips for not making corrections in their videos when inaccurate information was included, whether for various benchmarking charts, or a simple situation as the plastic coverings on the feet of the pwnage mouse.
 
And yet, over the past couple days, after we have seen the email chain where it has become very obvious that Billet Labs gave the waterblock to LTT with no expectation of ever getting back - we have the image screenshot, in writing, from their rep that LTT was supposed to keep the waterblock - he has not added that clarification to his own video, after making the clear implied accusation that Linus failed to return property which was not his.
 
Turns out, the property was his, and his team was, out of the goodness of their hearts, returning something that had been surrendered to them completely. 
 
To not include this detail in his video in any format - comment, caption, voiceover, what have you, is direct hypocrisy.  It doesn't matter if the rest of his video was correct - and it is.  That simple act is hypocritical, and that means even if he is correct in this situation, he is not right.
 
He did not make that video for altruistic reasons.  He did not make it to improve the journalistic and testing standards of tech youtube as a whole.
 
He made the video because he saw an opportunity to (once again, correctly) disparage a competitor and he knew, as long as he didn't make himself blatantly obvious that he isn't following his own rules, nobody was going to call him on it.
 
You are playing directly into that strategy and it has worked so well on you I shudder to think what happens when you see actual political debates and other things that actually matter.

Over the course of the Gamers Nexus video, Steve repeatedly blames Linus Tech Tips for not making corrections in their videos when inaccurate information was included, whether for various benchmarking charts, or a simple situation as the plastic coverings on the feet of the pwnage mouse.
 
And yet, over the past couple days, after we have seen the email chain where it has become very obvious that Billet Labs gave the waterblock to LTT with no expectation of ever getting back - we have the image screenshot, in writing, from their rep that LTT was supposed to keep the waterblock - he has not added that clarification to his own video, after making the clear implied accusation that Linus failed to return property which was not his.
 
Turns out, the property was his, and his team was, out of the goodness of their hearts, returning something that had been surrendered to them completely. 
 
To not include this detail in his video in any format - comment, caption, voiceover, what have you, is direct hypocrisy.  It doesn't matter if the rest of his video was correct - and it is.  That simple act is hypocritical, and that means even if he is correct in this situation, he is not right.
 
He did not make that video for altruistic reasons.  He did not make it to improve the journalistic and testing standards of tech youtube as a whole.
 
He made the video because he saw an opportunity to (once again, correctly) disparage a competitor and he knew, as long as he didn't make himself blatantly obvious that he isn't following his own rules, nobody was going to call him on it.
 
You are playing directly into that strategy and it has worked so well on you I shudder to think what happens when you see actual political debates and other things that actually matter.

Over the course of the Gamers Nexus video, Steve repeatedly blames Linus Tech Tips for not making corrections in their videos when inaccurate information was included, whether for various benchmarking charts, or a simple situation as the plastic coverings on the feet of the pwnage mouse.
 
And yet, over the past couple days, after we have seen the email chain where it has become very obvious that Billet Labs gave the waterblock to LTT with no expectation of ever getting back - we have the image screenshot, in writing, from their rep that LTT was supposed to keep the waterblock - he has not added that clarification to his own video, after making the clear implied accusation that Linus failed to return property which was not his.
 
Turns out, the property was his, and his team was, out of the goodness of their hearts, returning something that had been surrendered to them completely. 
 
To not include this detail in his video in any format - comment, caption, voiceover, what have you, is direct hypocrisy.  It doesn't matter if the rest of his video was correct - and it is.  That simple act is hypocritical, and that means even if he is correct in this situation, he is not right.
 
He did not make that video for altruistic reasons.  He did not make it to improve the journalistic and testing standards of tech youtube as a whole.
 
He made the video because he saw an opportunity to (once again, correctly) disparage a competitor and he knew, as long as he didn't make himself blatantly obvious that he isn't following his own rules, nobody was going to call him on it.
 
You are playing directly into that strategy and it has worked so well on you I shudder to think what happens when you see actual political debates and other things that actually matter.

Thoroughly well crafted and articulated response, and he is still refusing to engage with any points other than the one's we've refuted four times already and then going back to us thinking that Linus is our idol.
 
I give up.  He clearly has no capacity for comprehending the written English language.

GN is a competitor who saw an opportunity to take a shot.
As viewers you should have noticed the quality issues, ethic violations and monetization before being told.
 
Why was everyone okay for Linus using his personal house as a business writeoff to get upgrades and free equipment using business contacts and employee time.
 
Thats what turned me off watching his channel. Its just so sleezy exploiting staff for upgrading your own home. Especially when most of them cant afford their own house and live in apartments as shown in the upgrade videos.