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MercuryRain

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  1. Don't worry, cupcake. I need to explain things to people just as stupid as you on a daily basis. I'm used to it.
  2. I'm guessing your day job is flipping burgers at a Wendy's. I write environmental test reports to hand to the FAA. I know a thing or two about safety and testing ethics.
  3. Then there was literally zero point to the video because journalistic accuracy and ethics is worthless and unnecessary.
  4. "The trouble was just how long it took LTT to acknowledge this mistake. This should have triggered deletion of the video basically immediately when they confirmed it was erroneous, a community post on youtube, a twitter post, and a timeline for the fixed video with corrections." 12:03 to 12:17 in the video this entire thread is about. Later, at 33:54, he talks about how they auctioned the block off without Billet Labs' permission. There should be a caveat in here stating that LTT maintained full ownership of the block per their prior terms with Billet Labs, and until Billet Labs actually receives the item back in their possession, it doesn't matter who at LTT says they're going to return it. It is still not Billet Labs' property. It later says they had a responsibility that was ignored. Sure, but then any time you have ever said you would give someone $5 for a service they provided to you and it took them an extra 5 days, better cancel that person off the face of the planet. By his own standards, once people started accusing Linus of being a thief while citing the GN video as proof, Gamers Nexus should have immediately deleted the video and issued clarifications on YouTube Community, Twitter, and released a timeline for when a corrected video would be released. None of that has happened. Let me repeat that; If Steve followed his own rules as he laid them down to LTT for ethics, the very video we are discussing would not exist right now. It does, therefore I can only conclude that Steve is either a complete moron who forgot what he said less than 12 hours after he said it, or he knows exactly what he is doing and it was his intention to be a hypocrite all along, as long as it wasn't overly blatant.
  5. Ah. So Steve is an idiot. Glad we agree on something. One Billet Labs gave the block to LTT and said that they were letting LTT keep it, what happens after that is nobody's fault. Someone can TRY to get the block back to give it back to him once it's requested. But there is no guarantee that that block is ever going to get back to Billet. And it's silly to expect it would. They gave it to someone. They gave it to someone FOR REVIEW, apparently with the unvoiced expectation that that review would be positive and life would be great for them. Anything that happened to them because of this situation is honestly their own fault. If they can't handle the loss of a $2000 prototype that they gave away without any expectation of getting it back, they do not have a business. Simple as that. They have never had a business. They have had a scam. That's it. The context that has been added by you there is also something that Steve failed to add in his video. He has just failed. Spectacularly, I might add. To follow his OWN GUIDELINES THAT HE SET FOR LTT in the VERY VIDEO HE SET THEM.
  6. Over the course of the Gamers Nexus video, Steve repeatedly blames Linus Tech Tips for not making corrections in their videos when inaccurate information was included, whether for various benchmarking charts, or a simple situation as the plastic coverings on the feet of the pwnage mouse. And yet, over the past couple days, after we have seen the email chain where it has become very obvious that Billet Labs gave the waterblock to LTT with no expectation of ever getting back - we have the image screenshot, in writing, from their rep that LTT was supposed to keep the waterblock - he has not added that clarification to his own video, after making the clear implied accusation that Linus failed to return property which was not his. Turns out, the property was his, and his team was, out of the goodness of their hearts, returning something that had been surrendered to them completely. To not include this detail in his video in any format - comment, caption, voiceover, what have you, is direct hypocrisy. It doesn't matter if the rest of his video was correct - and it is. That simple act is hypocritical, and that means even if he is correct in this situation, he is not right. He did not make that video for altruistic reasons. He did not make it to improve the journalistic and testing standards of tech youtube as a whole. He made the video because he saw an opportunity to (once again, correctly) disparage a competitor and he knew, as long as he didn't make himself blatantly obvious that he isn't following his own rules, nobody was going to call him on it. You are playing directly into that strategy and it has worked so well on you I shudder to think what happens when you see actual political debates and other things that actually matter.
  7. I mean, we've told you multiple times what the """smoking gun""" is. GN refuses to hold themselves to the same standard that they requested of LTT. Open and shut case. We can call this out while still criticizing LTT. Pointing this out doesn't mean we're a """"""""""Linus Stan"""""""""" but your brain is apparently incapable of finding the answer to 2+2, so at this point I don't expect remotely intelligent conversation from you.
  8. You have yet to make one, that's for sure. We. Do not. Idolize. Linus. We. Are not. Defending. Linus. You really need to figure out what those words mean. I know the English language is hard, but it's really not that difficult to understand. We've told it to you about 20 times collectively now and you still haven't seemed to grasp the meaning.
  9. Thoroughly well crafted and articulated response, and he is still refusing to engage with any points other than the one's we've refuted four times already and then going back to us thinking that Linus is our idol. I give up. He clearly has no capacity for comprehending the written English language.
  10. I feel no need to make LMG appear any less incompetent. Once again, please remove that motive from your mind. It is not present for me. Are we clear? Can you follow that much? Are you able to understand that?
  11. The quality of the feedback they are getting right now in most of these threads is...well. non-existent. To put it succinctly, most of our opinions, questions, and suggestions are worthless and I fully expect them to treat it as such.
  12. Correct. It's not. Are you done introducing the strawman arguments yet? We understand that Linus messed up. We are not denying that. I have literally zero idea where you are getting the idea that we are from. We are saying that Gamers Nexus is not following their own advice to LTT for how to cover stuff objectively and it very much points out that they are not doing this purely altruistically. Guess what, your parasocial relationship with GN is just as harmful to a society as anyone else's with Linus. Y'gotta let it go, dude.
  13. Bruh. We are not deflecting shit. Linus fucked up. He was wrong. What the fuck are you smoking that you can't understand that? We are not defending him. <removed by staff>
  14. Perhaps you prefer to maintain willful ignorance. You are not everybody, that is valuable information and it does affect the entire situation. Because suddenly it isn't 'oh hey, Linus didn't give us something we lent him back' it's 'We gave him something in exchange for a review, which had no obligation to be positive, and then we begged for it back when he didn't review it the way we wanted and we didn't get it back'
  15. If that were true, there would be an edited video up right now that added further context to the Billet Labs situation.
  16. We are. We are just also saying that Steve is fucking up and not upholding his own standards. That's hypocritical at best and he clearly has a vested interest and bias to see this outcome go a certain way. We can do both. Apparently your brain isn't large enough to imagine that there can be a situation where things aren't completely black and white and nobody is right.
  17. First off, you're already missing important information. The block was given to LTT initially under the understanding that it would be kept. Period. They later asked for it back after a negative review, which is an eventuality they should have expected might happen when they initially sent it in. Steve claims that Linus took the block, auctioned it off without caring despite there being an initial understanding that it wasn't his and it being a vitally important piece of Bullet Labs' business, and it's just Linus trying to destroy some poor startup. This is a pretty massive take to be had without having the details of the situation correct. Also, trying to defend Billet Labs is stupid. They sent what they are now claiming was their only working version of their product to Linus with, apparently, the expectation that doing so would get them a review of 'yep, they're better than something that can be had for a quarter of the price. Go buy these guys!'. And again, they're selling that product - which they can't reliably reproduce - for $800. That's not some poor startup that is being unfairly judged. Were they correctly evaluated? No. But their business model is straight up scummy and imagine what Linus' video commentary would look like if he actually had ordered one himself to review? Because he does that from time to time. How many years do you think it's going to take for him to get a monoblock? For a last gen card?
  18. Not holding yourself to the same standard you demonstrably criticize someone else for not following seems pretty fucking hypocritical to me.
  19. This. You need to at least meet your own standards for ethics if you're going to call someone out on your standard for ethics. Probably a good idea to...yknow...do the things you're saying they should be doing, too?
  20. And I am holding them to their self-proclaimed title, simple as that. They want to be journalists? Alright. Be journalists.
  21. The end result is: Linus did not do things properly when it came to testing that product. That is a violation of testing ethics, because he stated at the time and he still maintains that even the best result in the world would not have changed his opinion on the monoblock as a product. Steve did not do things properly by asking for a comment. Again, he did not have to wait to receive that comment, he did not have to include any comment he did receive, he did not have to spin that comment in a positive light. But he didn't even try. Why does Steve get a pass? Because he's trying to defend a company that might as well be scamming people out of $800 per 'sale'? They're both fucking wrong, dude.
  22. We'll be finding out before then, if what Gary said was at all true.
  23. He was using an example of GN committing a fuckup. Sure, they had a formal warranty, but the method they chose to invoke that warranty is not exactly good. They rightly called LTT out on not having a formal warranty. LTT now has a formal warranty and I would argue that even before they did their resolution to all issues I have seen is far above and beyond what GN has done for the modmats. Again, that was an example. His core statement was that Gamers Nexus is accusing LTT of being sloppy with their practices. They are. He is saying the Gamers Nexus is also guilty of that. They are. Simply put. Even if you think that Steve reaching out to Linus for comment would have accomplished absolutely nothing, the fact that he did not is exactly the same in the journalistic context as Linus refusing to spend an extra $500 in labor cost to properly test the Billet Labs block and then claiming that it wouldn't matter if he had done that because it wouldn't change the conclusion. It is ethically bankrupt.
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