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Should I? Or should I not? ] I basically plan to NOT stress the card with furmark. Or I could just hook up an VGA 8pin from Supeflower. another psu fits in the 5.25 driver if i really want it..... I replaced it after suspecting it of doing damage to HDDs...

I know about the unbalanced fans, that guy said it's not that bad. An accelero is the last solution tbh... It's just too expensive. Maybe some ugly and weird sealed tubing with a nice big 120 or 140 mm fan at the end... It's not like this card isn't weird already.

Any thoughts on cheaply fixing that?

First of all, I don't have it yet. It's coming the day after tomorow. But I'm already thinking about flashing it to Ghz edition, just to be more...modern! (Boost and such). BUT, will it work? It's not a reference design, no idea of the revision, all I know is that I have a very handy bios switch... Second of all, two fans have lost one and two blades respectively. Should I replace them all 5 fans? The owner said it's working just fine... And I can return it within three days no questions asked. $200, a very good deal in my area. I will not overclock it at all I think. My 500W Sirtec (The PSU in signature had a nasty surpise for me,,,)will not be that happy with the new guest..I actually plan to undervolt this beast while keeping GHZ edition clocks.... AAAND there is a perfect mach...the lenght of the video card is exactly the max lenght supported by my Z11...some bending planed! I apologise for bragging, I mostly need to know about the bios flashing. Les noisy fans :

I have a passively cooled old gpu as a temporary solution. Having 70-90 degreeds hot component permanently in your system is never a good thing. The whole back of the case is warm and almost hot at touch.

Get an FX 8320, undervolt it. you will be around FX6300 at stock voltage in terms of vrm stress. No OC though... If it doesn't boot, just return the cpu.

On my experiments, I concluded that FX 8350/20 @ 1.4v is a bad idea even on high end cooling. You will very fast reach dangerous temps (60°C core, 70°C socket temp -wich one comes first) . Do not ignore this basic rule.

This topic might help you

I'll be honest: it's a mater of time until a chinese manufacturer releases this kind product 10x cheaper and moar mAh!

Looks cool but good luck hitting the downhill on that! I'll stick with my inlines for now!

It frustratingly not playing smoothly on my pc....

I just watched Linus' latest video "The Road to 4K" and here I am, still wondering why me decently powerfull machine (specs below) still can't smoothly play those 4k web content! It worked some time ago (a year or so) but now I still have these issues: Chrome plays the video at like...15 fps cheapo anime style. Internet Explorer plays it somehow smoother but picaso style, like this : I don't use Firefox at all, just to avoid those epicly annoying flash player instals and updates but it doesn't play it smooth either. Local video players like VLC , CWMP and PotPlayer (my favorite) do play 4k local and even Youtube video content (from url) at desired framerate no problem. I tried every possible catalyst driver and both flash and html5 versions of youtube webpage... Does anybody know how to fix this? I'm sure there is, as there are a lot of AMD folks ot here!

Got myself 5 of these machines. The problem was...they where older than expected! AGP and DDR1 FTW! Yeah..... Get all the sound cards, network cards, and HDDs, and use them as spare parts for other people in need. Oh and you coulkd use 60 fans (more or less) for the hot summers.

Moar gen!

Sadly MSI Afterburner crashes my start menu when starting to type. Otherwise, a stable and pretty snappy OS for me. Of course I have everything backed up.

AM1 build should be perfect TBH!

Oh shhh...

Some users are having a hard time with throttle issues in games and stuff, If you don;t need it, don;t read. I tried to explain it properly so that if you try it, it will work. Thanks for your honest replay!

Every time I see any kind of overclocking involved on chips, it always start with "disable turbo" and ends with disable everything else. Disable disable disable. What is the no. 1 problem for the FX CPUs at this moment? Yes, it's single thread performance. When it comes to pure non-multithreaded software, it kinda sucks. CPU Turbo should alleviate this. But it's rather complicated to mess with it and the performance boost is negligible. Wrong! This is an old thinking from the Phenom era.... Please check this out! Results in peacekeeper: FX 8320@ 4 Ghz no boost enabled, locked frequency- 2478 FX 8320@ 3.6 Ghz /W 4.5 Ghz boost- 3133. I will not try to prove my result. Test it out yourself please! Other (better) benchmarks too. And games! It's still rather complicated to mess with it, but I'll help you with that! I will show you how to keep the stock clock and change only the boost clocks while undervolting every clock state (or pstate for short). There are 2 turbo states for our CPU by default: 3.7 Ghz when 4 or more cores are in use(up to 8)-that's called P1 state and 4 Ghz with up to 3 cores in this state-called P0. The problem here is that the normal (BIOS) overclocking will make the P1 state get in the way, because we can't change that frequency in bios (at least I can't). So all of us want a clock base (P2) higher than 3.7 Ghz and then some turbo.. But there will definetly be some performance drop if not instability when the P2 is higher than P1, it's like swithing to a lower gear when a higher gear was expected. That's a real problem! Now I will list all the pstates available for FX CPUs: P6- should have the lowest clock, it is activated in idle (for all cores) or when only P0 is activated (up to 5 cores) to reduce the thermal output. This is done like....several times per second and swithed from phisical core to physical core to dinamically and evenly spread the turbo PS excess heat. This is a HUGE bonus over Phenom X6! P5,P4- low-intemediate pstates, they exist for effeciency porpouse (I watch a movie with proper GPU HW acceleration so the CPU doesn't really idle but it's not necessary to run at high pstates - for example) P3- The throttle pstate---that cursed clock when all the cores are at 100% and the motherboard thinks there is no more thermal headroom or the VRM is gonna explode. P2- Base clock, the pstate that normal overlocker uses. Some of us even locks it down because it's cool ( I mean in the swag way cuz heat is actually hy) -no offence, and of course they don't pay the power bill. P1- First and lower boost state P0- Highest pstate available, abused in single thread software. What will we do? We will try to make P2 perform like a third boost clock and P3, the thottle state, like a "there is war going on in my pc and this is the lowest I can get" new base state. But is not so dangerous as you think! For this we use a tool called AmdMsrTweaker. It's the equivalent of K10stat that I (or maybe we) used with Phenom. But that time, turbo was off, honesly! AmdMsrTweaker is a command-like tool to alterate clock speed per state and voltage per state aswell. It easily eliminates the problem of having too high voltage on a pstate (even in boost mode). To do that, we create a text file, edit it, change extension to "AmdMsrTweaker.bat", save it within the folder provided and when we are ready, we run that bat file and voila, the magic is happening. Editing AmdMsrTweaker.bat- this is how it looks like! AmdMsrTweaker Turbo=1 P0=22@1.3125 P1=19.5@1.2 P2=17.5@1.15 P3=17@1.1375 P4=12.5@1.0500 P5=7.5@0.7625 P6=5@0.7 APM=1 Let me explain it step by step: The line starts with AmdMsrTweaker so that the executable will know this file is intended to do the thing. Turbo=1 activated Turbo=0 deactivated. You can still undevolt and overclock or only overlock with or without torbo activated but only by multiplier and NOT reference clock (200 usually). Turbo on off in this tool overrides the bios setting. P0-P6: the pstates explaied eralier. P0-P6=number : This is the multiplier, just like in bios. But available for all pstates and not only for base and turbo P0 like usual. Ex: reference clock=200, P6=5 : 200x5=1000 Mhz idle pstate for me, @0.0125 - 1.55 : this is the full range of volages available for each state. Lower state should need lower voltage. Please use the default CPU voltage and clocks in bios for stability! It's very important! APM- AMD Power Management- When enabled, even in bios if exist, this will make your cpu throttle at very high cpu usage. But when disabled, turbo goes off even if it's activated and the temps go crazy high too! In that line I have 1 ghz idle, 3.4 ghz throtle, 3.5 ghz base , 3.9 ghz turbo P1 and 4.4 ghz turbo P0. I gradually increased refference clock in bios until I got 3.5 ghz throttle and 100 moar mghz for each high state but that's at the very end! To test each pstate, you first need to lock it down in catalyst. Like this: Use whatever stress program you want! Use 8 threads for all non boost pstates (including P2). Instable? Higher voltage or lower clock as usual. Unbootable? Reset bios.... yes I know.....it's weird! To test boost states you need prime95 and...not use the PC when stress is happening. Close every little program you can see, unlock all states in catalist, close (hide catalist in tray) and run 3 threads large FFT for testing P0 and 4 Threads for P1.And wait! Don't even use the mouse! One temp monitor is advisable but if you're sure the temps are fine, close that one too! About an hour of stress per turbo state is enough because you will never ever reach that level of stress with triple threads at max turbo in real world. I will attach a rar file wich contains folowing: AmdMsrtweaker folder with its executables. Some stable clocks that works well for me. (just copy one in the same folder and rename it to amdmsrtweaker.bat) A task schedule that you can import in task scheduler. Search Google if you don;t know what i'm saying. When ready, import task and copy amdmsrtweaker folder to "C:\Program Files". After that you'll not have to execute the bat file anymore! It starts with Windows and re-runs by itself after sleep. Be patient, it's worth it! And... don't do it if you expect 5 ghz turbo on a 4+1 phases Asrock! I tried to do the same thread fiew months ago but I was too,,,inpacient to explain everithing! https://www.dropbox.com/s/z1nw1kqmjmy1ujc/AmdMsrTweaker.rar?dl=0

Unless you know how to undervolt turbo states too.

AT 3.5 Ghz you'd have some superb undervolt and something like 80W TDP.... Also leave the turbo ON, it does make your CPU perform better at stock clock.. 3.7 ghz and 4 ghz are both turbo states and the clocks switche too fast to be a concern for you..

The new Windows (Phone) 9! Now with worldwide Cortana and a new web browser, (insert browser name). Sounds resounding to me!

Wait but wasn't there already "COD Advanced Warfighter"..? This is genuinely getting stupid. Yeah, I know, I may be late to the party..

Offtopic: Watched The Amazing Spiderman 2 and at a certain scene there was an "remember me" with a very similar Prophet voice and Crysis audio puns.

You should've ask to replace the faulty video card... A week or two in service is not that much waiting when the shipping is free and the refound waiting time is comparable.