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DDR5 also has 2 independent channels so effective memory access latencies are going to be lower which in many cases is more important than a wider bus with more raw bandwidth. And it's not like increasing ram bus width would be too much of an issue motherboard wise as you'd just remove the ability to use 4 slots on mainstream (2DPC) and when it comes to HEDT and server well those have been managing up to 8 channels per socket anyway so I don't think it'll be much of an issue really.
 
I think it's just not that attractive to increase the bus width as it'll actually increase latencies and that is not appealing at all. Personally I think that is where HBM fits in and we shouldn't really try and blur those lines, however it's far to impractical to utilize HBM with CPUs and system memory as it is right now. Ideally memory pages could be moved to where it's best for the workload and with memory management hints assistance data loaded in to HBM in time for computation.

It is already a thing. Add more memory channels. I have to wonder if a re-factoring of the product segments is needed. Dual channel is still fine for what I'd call value mainstream, but performance mainstream (say, anything with 8 or more fast cores?) could go to 4 channels, with HEDT going even higher.
 
I think the first systems were probably around X99 chipset, so Haswell-E? That seems about the right time, give or take a year or so as I'm too lazy to look up. Mainstream consumer DDR4 was with Skylake in 2015.

Well, the only problem is that our RAM data width is limited. We are still using 64 bit-width (72-bit for ECC) which exist since the DDR era from 2002. If we are going to reduce the bottleneck, especially in multi core CPU, increasing bit-width might be a better solution. Then again, increasing bit-width will increase the complexity of the motherboard manufacturing, and the cost can rise exponentially. Still, I do believe increasing bit-width will help solve the bottlenecking, and also make parallel computing more viable, with all the AI programming and software that are bound to be more popular in coming future.
 
Yeah, DDR4 has a good run, but their life span is only about 7 years only, if I recall correctly. I remember the first time I see a PC using DDR4 RAM is at 2014.

Just remember not all ECC is equal. DDR5 will come with chip level ECC as standard, presumably to help with yields at higher speeds and capacity. much in the same way SSDs use ECC so minor defects can be tolerated. Module level ECC will still be a separate option.
 
You have to look at it like with like. DDR4 at anything near 5000 is overclocked to the sky. DDR5 5000 is a walk in the park, and 10000 will be a similar level of overclock. Also don't let any current memory controller limitations dictate what ram could or should do. Right now, if you're running DDR4 ram above 3200 you're outside standards and you should consider yourself lucky to get anything. There are many threads on this forum with people buying 3600 ram and it not working with a particular system.
 
I see you like your latencies tight 😄
 
It will happen, more a matter of when. Look at how many DDR4 modules there are with overclocked chips. The same will happen in time with DDR5. Not on day 1, but it didn't happen with DDR4 either.
 
CPUs have been ram bandwidth starved for a long time, made even worse since AMD started the core wars. More bandwidth can't come fast enough especially on consumer platforms.
 
Also, without looking up the dates, DDR4 had a good run. I don't know if it stuck around longer than expected like PCIe 3.0, with 4.0 having a short existence and 5.0 already looming on the horizon.
 

I don't think there's much you're going to be able to do without rebooting. 
If I were you, I'd look at optimizing workflow and doing regular restarts/killing background tasks periodically. 

That's where I'd start. 
With you working around GIMP projects, I'm assuming you have clients. What if you had separate folders. "Client 1", "Client 2", then folders in that Client 1 Folder. "Project 1". Each project folder could have it's own notepad document. Instead of leaving tabs open, cut the link from the browser, throw it in the notepad. "C1P1 Bookmarks", "C2P1 Bookmarks" etc.

I thought this was a advertising bot when I saw the title and the huge amount of text, please add a TLDR

NGL! You lost me in the title... So colorful LOL!!!

@FakeKGB took the words right out of my fingers, I've had the same thing happen.  I've always been too slow to grab a screenshot, not that I've ever tried.

(Another thing I'd like to get a screenshot of in the "you have to be super fast or you miss it" category would be .... once in a while when my PC is under a heavy load, and I switch to another window / app, the window border, title bar, minimize/maximize/close buttons, for like 0.2 seconds looks like Windows 7 style, even though I'm running Windows 10 with pretty much a default theme.)

@FakeKGB took the words right out of my fingers, I've had the same thing happen.  I've always been too slow to grab a screenshot, not that I've ever tried.

(Another thing I'd like to get a screenshot of in the "you have to be super fast or you miss it" category would be .... once in a while when my PC is under a heavy load, and I switch to another window / app, the window border, title bar, minimize/maximize/close buttons, for like 0.2 seconds looks like Windows 7 style, even though I'm running Windows 10 with pretty much a default theme.)

It happens occasionally to me. Usually when I have multiple forum tabs open - I'll click on something from one tab, read it, then close it and go read whatever was on the other tab. Sometimes, the notification thing will show a 0 for a split second.
Nothing's ever really happened because of it.

Yes, but stupid executives at these massive companies think, more ads, equals free money. Unfortunately, they failed to account for the loss of userbase over implementing those ads.

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Yeah £/$20 sounds muy barato.
My dad thinks he paid that, maybe $25 or so, at a surplus place for this iron (or another one of his that's somewhat similar, but not quite the same) -- in the mid/late 1970s or so.  (He also told me that soldering irons/stations he was looking at could go for upwards of $60-80 or so back then.)

 

My next move message ;
 
* your thread was moved to the guh-puh section *
 
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I'm from southern California - eastern suburbs of San Diego area.  (On a zoomed out satellite view, I'm basically almost on the edge between suburban and rural.)

Have lived in this house all my life.  Parents moved here in November 1978, I was born a few months before the IBM PC came out.  (Actually I'll be leaving my 30s decade behind before this month ends.)

Wheel. I got 4 of 'em on my truck.
 
For uh... 'Modern technology', probably a switch that was salvaged by the previous owner of the house from something antique. It's used on the irrigation pump, which is in a pump house, so it's pretty difficult to get pics of it sadly.

You have forced my hand  though not all below is directed at you but for those who have misconceptions about what computer building is, and what it was.   First I must respond to the implication that I don't even know what the Ram upgrade was in my own computer. 
 
Here are the photos of the motherboard of my Tandy 1000 RL which I kept.  As you can see the ram upgrade is two sockets in which individual chips go not a card.  As far as I know this was pretty standard for a 1980's computer other than at the very high end (when a 486 DX 50 Mhz was high end).  


As you can see the ram upgrade is not on a card.   The one thing that not even God can take from a person is the time they have lived.  OK maybe a different model had a SIMM  the last model of the Tandy 1000, the RSX, did have SIMM's.     This was likely considered to be user friendly as not that long before this computer came out it was sometimes expected that end users would solder more chips to the board.   
 
Not long before that, late 70's or early 80's, home computers were often kits where one got the individual chips to solder in place themselves.  They were for hobbyist and enthusiast. 
 
Old as this was some things about it were more advanced.  On board graphics which could do 16 colors at a time when one either had monochrome or 4 colors at the consumer level.  Sound equal to the Adlib or sound blaster in quality.   Games and software were written for it and  and sold as "Tandy compatible".   Then there is having a full OS and GUI in Rom.  Which made it all deceptively fast until one had to access a disk. 
It made one not mind running an 8086 (from AMD at 10 Mhz) in 1989.    That's 8086 with no bloody 1, 2, 3, orrr 4. Thinking back on it I feel like Scotty on an episode of TNG.
 
As for what I had in that ISA slot. 
 

 
That blazing fast 2400 baud modem.  Notice it is an expansion card.  I had expected a modem to be an acoustic coupler like the one seen in War Games.  Never could hack NORAD. 
 
Well I live in Chicago.  So yeah.   There was a radio shack in every shopping mall and even some mini malls.   Before the internet, in a smaller town, and before fast shipping services like Fed EX it had to be hard. 
 
 
 
As you can see from the above a 386 was not in the cards for me.  I went from the above right to a 486 Tandy Sensation II (Which was replaced by a nearly identical computer from them the 3200)  One of the first to have a CD Rom drive. 
 
The bolded there is part of what I am saying.  People like you and me are not average.  The average computer user is really just better off buying a computer and upgrading it latter to whatever that computer is able to upgrade to.  
 
Think about what games most people play even?  How many people are playing MS FS  or Cyberpunk?  How many people are running high end science packages?  How many people are streaming out to audiences?   
 
We are  enthusiast or hobbyist whose value to companies line AMD or Nvidia isn't really our sales.  Our real value is that we influence others around us.  At the high end of that are people like Linus, either Linus, and his company/ operating system.   (Depending on the Linus).  At the lower end... I'll bet you are someone people you know ask for advice about computers.    That then influences what other people we know buy.  
 
Which means that any of the AMD APU's will be drop in upgrades.  That computer could take a Ryzen 5700g when it comes out.  An 8C 16T beast with graphics.  

Then it can also take every bit of a meaty cooler on something like a 3060 or 3060ti.  Which for most people would be enough to run Linux as a host and Windows as a gaming guest or just have a very good experience for many MANY years in one OS. 

I recall a few years ago I was shocked to find out that my Geforce 9800GT was WORSE than the integrated graphics on my i5 4590. That  was an eye opener!

If you would like to discuss the video about this build, please use the video thread in the LTT Official section.
If you want to help people with building their own PC, or would like help with your own, please check out the New Builds & Planning section of the forum.
 
 

I have a 6700K in my desktop rig. I'm liquid cooling it, and it's overclocked to 4.7ghz locked at locked voltage.. It's been like that for.. 4 years now? 5? I got pretty lucky, most skylake chips don't overclock that well. Mine can actually hold 4.8ghz stable, but I can't cool it because of the stock TIM under the IHS.. and I'm not planning on delliding. In Cinebench R23, it scores 6568pts as it stands. And I'm okay with that.
 
Funny enough - while skylake didn't overclock very well, it was an incredible undervolter. Even skylake laptops can usually get away with insanely low voltages, contested only by Intel 10th gen, and even that only rarely.

I guess it's just my experience, then.
I've never been able to get more than one OS on a drive - all but one craps out.
No pattern between which ones die.