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LOL @ something on PCGamesN's "The Ryzen response: Intel have forgotten how to deal with a genuinely competitive AMD" page. :D

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Gone is the old tick-tock model of CPU evolution and now it looks like Intel have killed the process>architecture>optimisation release cadence too. That little marketing fudge on the difficulty they were having hitting 10nm didn’t even last one cycle. Instead, as a result of Intel remaining on the 14nm lithography for the fourth generation in a row, it looks like they’re moving towards a process>architecture>optimise>flog-the-expired-equine release cadence.

 

Personally, I wish Intel would slow down the release cadence, to maybe one generation every 3 to 5 years or so, like they had over their first 25 years or so of X86.

 

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  • 1978 = 8086
  • 1982 = 286
  • 1985 = 386
  • 1989 = 486
  • 1993 = Pentium (P5)
  • 1995 = Pentium Pro/II/III (P6)
  • 2000 = Pentium 4 (Netburst)
  • ------ (new releases almost every year after this)
  • 2006 = Core
  • 2007 = Penryn
  • 2008 = Nehalem
  • 2010 = Westmere
  • 2011 = Sandy Bridge
  • 2012 = Ivy Bridge
  • 2013 = Haswell
  • 2014 = Haswell Refresh / Devil's canyon
  • 2015 = Broadwell (LGA11xx)
  • 2015 = Skylake
  • 2017 = Kaby Lake (desktop)

 

 

Take the time on getting things right, having larger per-generation improvements, like what was seen with single-threaded IPC / performance with 8086 -> 286, 386 -> 486, 486 -> P5, etc.

 

The slowest CPU from a new generation should be faster than the fastest CPU from the previous generation.

 

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Didn't Intel formerly keep older CPUs around, with price reductions, as the budget line in the past?

 

For example, instead of discontinuing the entire Celeron through i7 line of Skylake and introducing a new Celeron through i7 line of Kaby Lake with minimal improvements, I would have liked something like, from budget to high end: Q6600, Q9650, i7-920, i7-980, i7-3930K, i7-5960X, i7-6950X, but with much larger per-step improvements, or something like that.  Price range would be from the cheapest Celeron at Micro Center on Black Friday, to a step down from the upcoming flagship Ryzen CPU, or the cheapest Haswell-E at MC on BF.

 

 

Go back to Tick/Tock, but with a few changes.

 

  • Tick / Die-Shrink = only on mobile & servers, where power consumption is a priority.
  • Tock / Architecture = only on mainstream & HEDT, where performance is a priority.

 

Don't change sockets so often.  I think a good suggestion would be the longest warranty length of high-end power supply lines, like from EVGA and Corsair, as a guide.  Also if possible use the same socket across the entire stack, so if someone wants to start with like a Celeron or Atom, then upgrade to a Xeon E7 or Xeon Phi later, they can.

 

P.S. Didn't think this was quite worthy of a forum post.  If I did, it would have gone in CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory.

  1. TheRandomness

    TheRandomness

    @rrubberr You can get LGA 3647 standalone Xeon Phis now. 

  2. TheRandomness

    TheRandomness

    You can, but it's still not supported by some OSs. 

  3. TheRandomness

    TheRandomness

    Probably something to do with the fun instruction sets (heavily modified x86) for the atom cores.. not too sure tbh. 

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