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After using my classmate’s 2017 13” MacBook Pro with Touch Bar last night for our report, I can finally say that there are two things Apple needs to get rid off:

  1.  The Butterfly key switches - No matter how anyone make lousy excuses for it, typing on it doesn’t feel good especially for prolonged typing. You’ll often second guess yourself if you’ve actually typed a specific letter because of its pathetically shallow key travel.
  2. Touch Bar - It adds very little functionality to it and makes typing requiring an additional step. Unlike the 2015 MBP and other laptops with physical function keys like F2 for editing a cell in Excel, the newer ones require an extra step or two just to bring up the stupid Touch Bar. 

But when it comes to the OS, I still stand to what I’ve said in the past that macOS has features you’ll actually use and feels less bloated in comparison to Windows 10. 

  1. DrMacintosh

    DrMacintosh

    I can get behind getting rid of the TouchBar, it does nothing but add cost for very little functionality. 

     

    However I don't think I can support the idea of getting rid of the butterfly keyboard. By far one of my favorite typing experiences out there. Much better than a membrane (even though it technically is a membrane keyboard) and I like how stable the keys are. The only problem with the keyboard that I see is its ability to stand up against dust and other particulates. 

     

    btw what kind of fingers do you have? Most people that I have heard say they don't like the MacBook Pro keys have sausage fingers. I have dainty fingers and have never had an issue with feeling the keystrokes that I make. 

     

    Also pain from long typing sessions can be alleviated by typing softer, lol. 

  2. captain_to_fire

    captain_to_fire

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    btw what kind of fingers do you have? Most people that I have heard say they don't like the MacBook Pro keys have sausage fingers. I have dainty fingers and have never had an issue with feeling the keystrokes that I make. 

     

    Also pain from long typing sessions can be alleviated by typing softer, lol. 

    And that’s what I mean by people making excuses for a half assed implementation where you have to change just to make it feel a little bit better. 

     

    It’s basically “ask not what the MacBook Pro can do for you, ask what you can do for the MacBook Pro.”

     

  3. DrMacintosh

    DrMacintosh

    The butterfly keyboard is an inanimate object that was manufactured to be a certain way. Just like not all earphones will fit in everyones ear canal, not every keyboard is right for everyones typing. 

  4. Blademaster91

    Blademaster91

    A laptop keyboard should fit most people. The excuse of "its made a certain may and won't fit everyone" makes sense with mechanical keyboards, then again there are tons of different switches to fit heavy or light key presses or tactical or linear key feedback.

    The touchbar to me feels like some half assed way of adding touch support, Apple either needs to make a version without the touchbar or just add touch capability into the glass like most other laptop OEM's are doing.

  5. DrMacintosh

    DrMacintosh

    Idk, Integrating ARM and x86, coding a new OS just for the TouchBar so it can communicate to the SoC and CPU, integrating touchID into it, and building the T2 chip for the TouchBars brain all seems like a lot of work just to avoid adding a touch layer to the display.......

  6. Techstorm970

    Techstorm970

    @Blademaster91 Actually, once I realized what the Touchbar does, I found it was a brilliant innovation and an ingenious idea.  It essentially adds programmable key functionalities that are not limited in number.  Imagine if you could have a gaming keyboard with 20+ programmable keys built in.

     

    The touchbar is a personalization feature, and a damn good one!

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