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The reaching out is completely just complimentary even in more traditional media. Some newspapers and news channels may have very strict rules about reaching out for a comment but they are still just complimentary and a lot of the time when the news piece is bit "spicy" you will see "X was contacted for input but didn't provide answer" which basicly translates into "10 minutes before pressing publish we send them an email and they didn't answer".
And yes, that is done by even the most respected publications.
 
As Steve says:
He doesn't reach out every time, he doesn't need to reach out every time to corporations when reporting on them. Period. With big corporation he doesn't reach out if the issue already harms the consumers or if their view is irrelevant. Any product he buys and reviews, he doesn't reach out because they are already doing harm.
He didn't need Linus's input or permission to do that video. LMGs videos are already affecting millions of consumers and their objective errors, which he covered objectively (Me: like the case where Linus goes "you can throw anything at Noctua NH-D15 and it handles it" while the very next graph shows NH-D15 not handling everything thrown at it but a CPU thermal throttling) and Linus's response is to move the discussion over why he wasn't allowed to get input on the first video (Me: Because he would have done what he did, turn it into "oh, it's already handled and made right" while actually Coltons email got lost into their bureaucracy and the first thing Linus did before writing the response was to reach out to Billet by himself making sure that "the problem is being handled" and he doesn't lie saying "it's under control").
 
And still that is A LOT more than Linus has done even in the close past. Like with the Billet Labs where he right out denied his writer to make the test properly because it would have costed him money and it wouldn't have changed his stand about the product. That is way further away from objective reviewing with trustful and correct testing than not giving Linus "gas-molecule" Sebastian chance to respond in private and probably start to do damage control before all of his mistakes are thrown into the public.

Here you go:
(timestamped to 6:34)
 
The reaching out is completely just complimentary even in more traditional media. Some newspapers and news channels may have very strict rules about reaching out for a comment but they are still just complimentary and a lot of the time when the news piece is bit "spicy" you will see "X was contacted for input but didn't provide answer" which basicly translates into "10 minutes before pressing publish we send them an email and they didn't answer".
And yes, that is done by even the most respected publications.
 
As Steve says:
He doesn't reach out every time, he doesn't need to reach out every time to corporations when reporting on them. Period. With big corporation he doesn't reach out if the issue already harms the consumers or if their view is irrelevant. Any product he buys and reviews, he doesn't reach out because they are already doing harm.
He didn't need Linus's input or permission to do that video. LMGs videos are already affecting millions of consumers and their objective errors, which he covered objectively (Me: like the case where Linus goes "you can throw anything at Noctua NH-D15 and it handles it" while the very next graph shows NH-D15 not handling everything thrown at it but a CPU thermal throttling) and Linus's response is to move the discussion over why he wasn't allowed to get input on the first video (Me: Because he would have done what he did, turn it into "oh, it's already handled and made right" while actually Coltons email got lost into their bureaucracy and the first thing Linus did before writing the response was to reach out to Billet by himself making sure that "the problem is being handled" and he doesn't lie saying "it's under control").
 
And still that is A LOT more than Linus has done even in the close past. Like with the Billet Labs where he right out denied his writer to make the test properly because it would have costed him money and it wouldn't have changed his stand about the product. That is way further away from objective reviewing with trustful and correct testing than not giving Linus "gas-molecule" Sebastian chance to respond in private and probably start to do damage control before all of his mistakes are thrown into the public.

Here you go:
(timestamped to 6:34)
 
The reaching out is completely just complimentary even in more traditional media. Some newspapers and news channels may have very strict rules about reaching out for a comment but they are still just complimentary and a lot of the time when the news piece is bit "spicy" you will see "X was contacted for input but didn't provide answer" which basicly translates into "10 minutes before pressing publish we send them an email and they didn't answer".
And yes, that is done by even the most respected publications.
 
As Steve says:
He doesn't reach out every time, he doesn't need to reach out every time to corporations when reporting on them. Period. With big corporation he doesn't reach out if the issue already harms the consumers or if their view is irrelevant. Any product he buys and reviews, he doesn't reach out because they are already doing harm.
He didn't need Linus's input or permission to do that video. LMGs videos are already affecting millions of consumers and their objective errors, which he covered objectively (Me: like the case where Linus goes "you can throw anything at Noctua NH-D15 and it handles it" while the very next graph shows NH-D15 not handling everything thrown at it but a CPU thermal throttling) and Linus's response is to move the discussion over why he wasn't allowed to get input on the first video (Me: Because he would have done what he did, turn it into "oh, it's already handled and made right" while actually Coltons email got lost into their bureaucracy and the first thing Linus did before writing the response was to reach out to Billet by himself making sure that "the problem is being handled" and he doesn't lie saying "it's under control").
 
And still that is A LOT more than Linus has done even in the close past. Like with the Billet Labs where he right out denied his writer to make the test properly because it would have costed him money and it wouldn't have changed his stand about the product. That is way further away from objective reviewing with trustful and correct testing than not giving Linus "gas-molecule" Sebastian chance to respond in private and probably start to do damage control before all of his mistakes are thrown into the public.

Here you go:
(timestamped to 6:34)
 
The reaching out is completely just complimentary even in more traditional media. Some newspapers and news channels may have very strict rules about reaching out for a comment but they are still just complimentary and a lot of the time when the news piece is bit "spicy" you will see "X was contacted for input but didn't provide answer" which basicly translates into "10 minutes before pressing publish we send them an email and they didn't answer".
And yes, that is done by even the most respected publications.
 
As Steve says:
He doesn't reach out every time, he doesn't need to reach out every time to corporations when reporting on them. Period. With big corporation he doesn't reach out if the issue already harms the consumers or if their view is irrelevant. Any product he buys and reviews, he doesn't reach out because they are already doing harm.
He didn't need Linus's input or permission to do that video. LMGs videos are already affecting millions of consumers and their objective errors, which he covered objectively (Me: like the case where Linus goes "you can throw anything at Noctua NH-D15 and it handles it" while the very next graph shows NH-D15 not handling everything thrown at it but a CPU thermal throttling) and Linus's response is to move the discussion over why he wasn't allowed to get input on the first video (Me: Because he would have done what he did, turn it into "oh, it's already handled and made right" while actually Coltons email got lost into their bureaucracy and the first thing Linus did before writing the response was to reach out to Billet by himself making sure that "the problem is being handled" and he doesn't lie saying "it's under control").
 
And still that is A LOT more than Linus has done even in the close past. Like with the Billet Labs where he right out denied his writer to make the test properly because it would have costed him money and it wouldn't have changed his stand about the product. That is way further away from objective reviewing with trustful and correct testing than not giving Linus "gas-molecule" Sebastian chance to respond in private and probably start to do damage control before all of his mistakes are thrown into the public.

Here you go:
(timestamped to 6:34)
 
The reaching out is completely just complimentary even in more traditional media. Some newspapers and news channels may have very strict rules about reaching out for a comment but they are still just complimentary and a lot of the time when the news piece is bit "spicy" you will see "X was contacted for input but didn't provide answer" which basicly translates into "10 minutes before pressing publish we send them an email and they didn't answer".
And yes, that is done by even the most respected publications.
 
As Steve says:
He doesn't reach out every time, he doesn't need to reach out every time to corporations when reporting on them. Period. With big corporation he doesn't reach out if the issue already harms the consumers or if their view is irrelevant. Any product he buys and reviews, he doesn't reach out because they are already doing harm.
He didn't need Linus's input or permission to do that video. LMGs videos are already affecting millions of consumers and their objective errors, which he covered objectively (Me: like the case where Linus goes "you can throw anything at Noctua NH-D15 and it handles it" while the very next graph shows NH-D15 not handling everything thrown at it but a CPU thermal throttling) and Linus's response is to move the discussion over why he wasn't allowed to get input on the first video (Me: Because he would have done what he did, turn it into "oh, it's already handled and made right" while actually Coltons email got lost into their bureaucracy and the first thing Linus did before writing the response was to reach out to Billet by himself making sure that "the problem is being handled" and he doesn't lie saying "it's under control").
 
And still that is A LOT more than Linus has done even in the close past. Like with the Billet Labs where he right out denied his writer to make the test properly because it would have costed him money and it wouldn't have changed his stand about the product. That is way further away from objective reviewing with trustful and correct testing than not giving Linus "gas-molecule" Sebastian chance to respond in private and probably start to do damage control before all of his mistakes are thrown into the public.

Indeed, Linus knows some of his following is very toxic, he addresses this yet doesn't seem to tell them to stop, as Linus knows the toxic following will defend him no matter what when some controversy happens. The problem is something LMG created by making the chaotic content, or content aimed at a younger audience, with the constant innuendo jokes, or the ridiculously expensive PC builds, or things like the game controller made of gold.
The fanclubbing is very immature and I expect its mostly the younger audience, given the amount of new accounts coming in to come up with reasons to blame GN.  I usually like being on the forums because people are having other discussions, and I assume a lot of the people here posting regularly don't care about the LTT content. However a lot of the posts from people joining just to defend Linus because of a toxic para-social relationship makes the forum feel like reddit with all of the fighting and discussion going in a circle because someone wants to blame GN for not asking before making the video, even though GN has said why he didn't in his videos. 

Welcome to the LTT community during shitstorm when YT, Reddit and whatever other platforms find the forums and raid it.
 
It's really not a joke or meme but even Linus has mentioned the fact that as whole he has very toxic following (mostly probably from the "entertaining" videos where nothing seems to go as planned and it pretty much boils down to chaos, something that pleases 14 year old teenagers with ADHD and too much money to spend on energy drinks).
Like the word "toxic" isn't enough, oh boy, not even half of it and things would be pretty much okay if it was ONLY these times when Linus is under attack, as in community is mostly against Linus. But nope.
Like there's a moment in history after which no one should be proud to call themselves part of Linus-fanclub and it has nothing to do with Linus but everything to do with the energy drink fueled ADHD fanclub. The keyword is Mindchop.
 
These forums usually are active but kind of don't even care about LTT that much, some will point out some videos and WAN show but generally just talk about tech and troubleshooting and fighting over fruit product company or someone tryinf to do something somewhere.
But not when the brown stuff hits the fan and there seems to be more couple days old accounts sprouting than mushrooms in rain.

Welcome to the LTT community during shitstorm when YT, Reddit and whatever other platforms find the forums and raid it.
 
It's really not a joke or meme but even Linus has mentioned the fact that as whole he has very toxic following (mostly probably from the "entertaining" videos where nothing seems to go as planned and it pretty much boils down to chaos, something that pleases 14 year old teenagers with ADHD and too much money to spend on energy drinks).
Like the word "toxic" isn't enough, oh boy, not even half of it and things would be pretty much okay if it was ONLY these times when Linus is under attack, as in community is mostly against Linus. But nope.
Like there's a moment in history after which no one should be proud to call themselves part of Linus-fanclub and it has nothing to do with Linus but everything to do with the energy drink fueled ADHD fanclub. The keyword is Mindchop.
 
These forums usually are active but kind of don't even care about LTT that much, some will point out some videos and WAN show but generally just talk about tech and troubleshooting and fighting over fruit product company or someone tryinf to do something somewhere.
But not when the brown stuff hits the fan and there seems to be more couple days old accounts sprouting than mushrooms in rain.

It's also plain and simple that LTT cut the video short, posted it with incorrect testing and while the writer asked Linus to give him a bit time to make the testing correct, Linus went "Shit product, shit price, I won't spend another dime or minute to it because nothing will change anything". And the outcome was lazy video which left the conclusion "product is shit because it doesn't perform well compared to its price" with the incorrect testing. Linus could have spend like 20 minutes extra and made the conclusion part of the video clearer about that the price of the product is ridiculous and pretty much no matter the performance, it's not a product he could give positive review, or spend the few hours/days and add the correct testing to strengthen the already filmed conclusion.
 
The problem isn't that the review was bad, the problem was that LTTs testing in that review was completely incorrect because Linus didn't want to initially spend 20 minutes to get RTX 3090 Ti (E: which Billet Lab also send to LTT) to test the product and, because his some odd vision about always making only the newest and shiniest builds, they went on with the RTX 4090 that the Billet Lab said just only "might work" which it didn't.
The outcome really doesn't matter but that LTT released video about someones product in which LTT fucks up the testing because Linus and the LTT correction is pretty much Linus saying sorry and spending 10 minutes talking about why doing the testing correctly wouldn't change the outcome. The cold hard fact is still that LTT willingly and knowingly posted a video with fucked up testing.
 
What it comes to error correcting the pinned comment and later editing videos isn't enough. 99% of the people do not return to rewatch videos in case "there was a problem" or anything and the misinformation and error will remain and grow. GN also might put notion on the videos with mistakes pointing people to the video with the correction but even if not, them making the correction video and that being either fixed video or video only concerning their mistake is million times better than what LTT does.

You're missing my point.
 
If Linus is ready to do use fucked up testing because fixing the mistake someone in the LTT made and retesting it right would cost him extra but won't do it because "trust me, bro" it's a bad product. Even if the product actually is bad, does it give LTT the right to fuck up its testing and then just "trust me, bro" the review?
No matter the product, testing is testing you cannot fuck it up and then play it down with "oh, it's doesn't matter because the product is either way bad" especially when in the next sentence you go on how little you would require to remake that testing correctly but won't do it because your asshole doesn't tickle the right way and it would cost you some peanuts.
 
Especially when you are trying to make more respectable testing methods, you just cannot fuck around like this. Like seriously, would the million dollar test chamber matter anything if instead of data we had just "the product is bad, the end"? Like the whole point of Labs was to build respectable testing and really show with the data why some products are bad and others are good, not just flappy floppy swing around and save couple of bucks by not doing the correct testing.

You're missing my point.
 
If Linus is ready to do use fucked up testing because fixing the mistake someone in the LTT made and retesting it right would cost him extra but won't do it because "trust me, bro" it's a bad product. Even if the product actually is bad, does it give LTT the right to fuck up its testing and then just "trust me, bro" the review?
No matter the product, testing is testing you cannot fuck it up and then play it down with "oh, it's doesn't matter because the product is either way bad" especially when in the next sentence you go on how little you would require to remake that testing correctly but won't do it because your asshole doesn't tickle the right way and it would cost you some peanuts.
 
Especially when you are trying to make more respectable testing methods, you just cannot fuck around like this. Like seriously, would the million dollar test chamber matter anything if instead of data we had just "the product is bad, the end"? Like the whole point of Labs was to build respectable testing and really show with the data why some products are bad and others are good, not just flappy floppy swing around and save couple of bucks by not doing the correct testing.

Your comment made it look like you didn't know what a prototype is and why especially 2 guys in a garage companies don't usually have something like Nvidia partner prototypes to develop their product or even the most shiniest and newest rock to do it.
 
I am generally not interested is the product good or not but the more core problems. especially the WAN show where Linus doubles down on that the monoblock is bad product because their testing and he just knows that it's a bad product and it would be different if their testing would have shown it to perform even 5% better than it did. And pretty much, especially the veteran exotic cooler guru Linus, should know that you do not put just some waterblocks on some hardware that you have lying around because it will be a miracle if it fits correctly and double-miracle if it works well. Linus even himself says when he notices the card they're putting in is 4090 and not the 3090Ti that it might be a problem but then decides to go on because time is money and $100-300 in wages would make LTT to go on red.
 
IMO at the point Linus notices they don't have the correct GPU should have the point where the video ends, someone in the making has fucked up and moving forward wouldn't be anymore about reviewing the product but some janky LTT build that makes many makers cringe. Making those build videos is fine, like Alex using the janky adapter-adapter-adapter instead of using 15-60 minutes to get the right adapter is funny, but that isn't something to be done in an review.
Also that is concerning that Linus is building multi-million beaver dollar laboratory to make LMGs testing serious business and that the data of the LTT videos would be good. On the other hand Linus isn't ready to spend the couple hundred bucks extra to fix LTTs fuck up that raises during the filming. That doesn't promise good about the Lab testing, like imagine if they fucked up and Linus just goes "Oh, doesn't matter, just publish the data and we carry on. No time or resources to cry over spilled milk." Wouldn't even matter if he had managed to get JonnyGuru from Corsair to do PSU testing for LMG if he wouldn't get the time and chance to do it properly and especially redo it if there went something wrong.

Your comment made it look like you didn't know what a prototype is and why especially 2 guys in a garage companies don't usually have something like Nvidia partner prototypes to develop their product or even the most shiniest and newest rock to do it.
 
I am generally not interested is the product good or not but the more core problems. especially the WAN show where Linus doubles down on that the monoblock is bad product because their testing and he just knows that it's a bad product and it would be different if their testing would have shown it to perform even 5% better than it did. And pretty much, especially the veteran exotic cooler guru Linus, should know that you do not put just some waterblocks on some hardware that you have lying around because it will be a miracle if it fits correctly and double-miracle if it works well. Linus even himself says when he notices the card they're putting in is 4090 and not the 3090Ti that it might be a problem but then decides to go on because time is money and $100-300 in wages would make LTT to go on red.
 
IMO at the point Linus notices they don't have the correct GPU should have the point where the video ends, someone in the making has fucked up and moving forward wouldn't be anymore about reviewing the product but some janky LTT build that makes many makers cringe. Making those build videos is fine, like Alex using the janky adapter-adapter-adapter instead of using 15-60 minutes to get the right adapter is funny, but that isn't something to be done in an review.
Also that is concerning that Linus is building multi-million beaver dollar laboratory to make LMGs testing serious business and that the data of the LTT videos would be good. On the other hand Linus isn't ready to spend the couple hundred bucks extra to fix LTTs fuck up that raises during the filming. That doesn't promise good about the Lab testing, like imagine if they fucked up and Linus just goes "Oh, doesn't matter, just publish the data and we carry on. No time or resources to cry over spilled milk." Wouldn't even matter if he had managed to get JonnyGuru from Corsair to do PSU testing for LMG if he wouldn't get the time and chance to do it properly and especially redo it if there went something wrong.

Except that's just moving goal posts!
Why bother reviewing ANYTHING that the average consumer doesn't buy?
 
If he's given an ultra-luxury car to (p)review, and then he says "oh this car takes a 6 seconds to get to 60 instead of 4 seconds", then it's pretty fucked up to overlook that mistake by saying "no one's going to buying this anyway"

The best part of that is that there's a tech channel that often underlines that putting $500 GPU into "customers" PC because theirs is broken is literally nothing to them because that is why they have sponsors and they easily make that money with the videos (Salazar).
 
And then we literally have the BIGGEST tech YT channel whining that spending $100, $200 or even $500 more for a video to make it PROPERLY is unbearable and expecting them to do it is unthinkable and they rather fuck up another company over it than just either be transparent and say they fucked up and say that they cannot pull any standing conclusions from their fucked up testing or they just don't publish the video.

I don't know is it more frightening that LMG sized company with probably quite numerable "prop" warehouse with PC gear that is unique, prototypes and whatever through the years manages to not sticker someone elses item correctly. Or that in LMG sized company someone just goes to their warehouse, collects some interesting stuff to be auctioned off and that stuff isn't checked 10 fold that they can be actually auctioned off for charity.

Yup, and why wasn't it marked with a sticker with "loaned sample/not for sale. To be returned until year/month"? The inventory guys should have marked it upon receival to prevent this. 
 
This is the kind of change that prevents this from happening again. 

Getting some cache amount wrong or whatever tiny data piece isn't a big thing and something that happens to everyone. Owning the mistakes is also good and being transparent should be the default, transparency not "wipe it under the rug and hope no one notices and if someone does then deal with it".
 
But the problem with pinning a comment days, even hours, after the publishing and easily hundreds of thousands views later, is that it doesn't reach many. It's like old PC magazine having an error enough to issue correction and instead of issuing correction in the next issue, they would just made correctional box into the undelivered/unsold magazines and believe that people who already bought the magazine will buy another one just to check if there was mistakes in the one they got earlier.
I don't know would the YT era equivalent of the small correction box in the next issue be already pinned comment explaining the error and correcting it in the next possible video right at the time it comes out or what. But just in that exact video and then just a brief mentioning in the now hours long WAN show (if the error is worth it) doesn't feel like enough. Probably very few would read those comments but even fewer will return to old videos to check if there might be some corrections unless the whole thing blow up.
 
The bigger problem I see is that there seems to be little that would stop the video. Like the Billet Lab video would probably have been good to call off at the moment there wasn't right GPU on the table, and that is just an example, it could be whatever video where things start to go south and it's almost magical no one makes the call to stop right there, call it a day and "let's take a moment to really think" and if it comes to it, issue community post or something like "There won't be video today because we fucked up and need to remake it". YT algorithm probably doesn't like that and I know you take it as a huge achievement how long LMG has managed to go with daily videos, but I think that is fair for everyone that when things go wrong instead of forcing it forward, it's called as it is and tried again. And if the algorithm is so important on daily videos, just make the apology video or wing it like "there should be interesting video here, but we failed and instead you got Uncle Linus going around dancing crab dance with LTT boxers on his head because that's what the YouTube wants".
 
Personally I fear where this can lead and what it may affect. Like does Labs have the same time constraints and error correction? If something goes wrong in the testing that would cause video being week late because retesting everything, would them been given that week to correct the testing or would that be just another "*" in the editing or even a rare mention in the video about testing having an error? Is it possible that the phrase "we sent it to the Labs for testing" in a video may be empty because the Labs didn't have enough time to do their job properly?
Like is LTT videos doing so badly spending the $200-500 even $1000 more to make them accurate when things go south is unbearable and you rather push out video that is just you fucking things up? No matter what it costs to someone else as long as LTT video is on the green, right? Because that will be the Labs failure because there will be times when the question will be either accurate and truthful data or daily and profitable video.
 
 
And yeah, for real, I am really asking what is LMG's priority list and which is sacrificed first when things go wrong: money, daily upload, trustworthiness or whatever else LMG can sacrifice to make things right? What is the first thing that flies out of the window?
 
Also the Billet Lab thing is still extremely fucked up "accident", I don't think even Bob Ross would find it happy.

Getting some cache amount wrong or whatever tiny data piece isn't a big thing and something that happens to everyone. Owning the mistakes is also good and being transparent should be the default, transparency not "wipe it under the rug and hope no one notices and if someone does then deal with it".
 
But the problem with pinning a comment days, even hours, after the publishing and easily hundreds of thousands views later, is that it doesn't reach many. It's like old PC magazine having an error enough to issue correction and instead of issuing correction in the next issue, they would just made correctional box into the undelivered/unsold magazines and believe that people who already bought the magazine will buy another one just to check if there was mistakes in the one they got earlier.
I don't know would the YT era equivalent of the small correction box in the next issue be already pinned comment explaining the error and correcting it in the next possible video right at the time it comes out or what. But just in that exact video and then just a brief mentioning in the now hours long WAN show (if the error is worth it) doesn't feel like enough. Probably very few would read those comments but even fewer will return to old videos to check if there might be some corrections unless the whole thing blow up.
 
The bigger problem I see is that there seems to be little that would stop the video. Like the Billet Lab video would probably have been good to call off at the moment there wasn't right GPU on the table, and that is just an example, it could be whatever video where things start to go south and it's almost magical no one makes the call to stop right there, call it a day and "let's take a moment to really think" and if it comes to it, issue community post or something like "There won't be video today because we fucked up and need to remake it". YT algorithm probably doesn't like that and I know you take it as a huge achievement how long LMG has managed to go with daily videos, but I think that is fair for everyone that when things go wrong instead of forcing it forward, it's called as it is and tried again. And if the algorithm is so important on daily videos, just make the apology video or wing it like "there should be interesting video here, but we failed and instead you got Uncle Linus going around dancing crab dance with LTT boxers on his head because that's what the YouTube wants".
 
Personally I fear where this can lead and what it may affect. Like does Labs have the same time constraints and error correction? If something goes wrong in the testing that would cause video being week late because retesting everything, would them been given that week to correct the testing or would that be just another "*" in the editing or even a rare mention in the video about testing having an error? Is it possible that the phrase "we sent it to the Labs for testing" in a video may be empty because the Labs didn't have enough time to do their job properly?
Like is LTT videos doing so badly spending the $200-500 even $1000 more to make them accurate when things go south is unbearable and you rather push out video that is just you fucking things up? No matter what it costs to someone else as long as LTT video is on the green, right? Because that will be the Labs failure because there will be times when the question will be either accurate and truthful data or daily and profitable video.
 
 
And yeah, for real, I am really asking what is LMG's priority list and which is sacrificed first when things go wrong: money, daily upload, trustworthiness or whatever else LMG can sacrifice to make things right? What is the first thing that flies out of the window?
 
Also the Billet Lab thing is still extremely fucked up "accident", I don't think even Bob Ross would find it happy.

That Billet Lab thing is just really FUCKED UP, like how the hell a prototype can end up being auctioned off when it has been asked to be returned? And the whole review thing and Linuses "normal" WAN show explaining of "nothing matter but still everything matters but this doesn't matter because I say so" on top of that... This takes the crown from "No one else respects their warranties so I don't even want to make warranty promises" (where my point was exactly that "I just don't trust you, bro").
 
I won't be nitpicking around the numbers but I kind of knew that the Labs won't change that LTT is entertainment, not unbiased, hard-on facts and testing channel that will make sure their data is true and will post the video even if the sponsor pulls out because they didn't like the results. Those aren't the only times LTT videos have had problems and they won't be the last ones and I would believe LMG won't be changing their actions towards pushing utter bullshit and not officially and clearly owning it, the days later comment that will be pinned week later will be the standard.
 
I strongly agree with GN on that LMG should start to take more time with the videos. I do not underline that LMG would be intentionally bad with the facts but just that the people working don't have enough time to really do their job. I could understand if we were talking about some garage channel rushing videos out to please the algorithm to try to make the couple bucks but LMG level professional media company, unacceptable. The amount of videos doesn't matter if that translates into videos having factual problems and when the videos have factual problems, the "We send it to labs for testing" is just a bad joke. Actually I don't know does the labs really change anything on this front, if they are given the same amount of time as the writers and then the rest of the production, I am not a single bit surprised that there's problems with the data, include into that the "we run every test again" and you have a huge pile of problems incoming and Linus "trust me, bro" Sebastian presenting it as the truth for one of the biggest tech audiences there is and the sad part is, I cannot even trust that meaningful part of that audience will do their own homework and figure out the parts where time and money ended for the video.
 
But get your popcorns ready for the next WAN show because it's probably coming enough spices to salt and pepper everyone's popcorns.

That Billet Lab thing is just really FUCKED UP, like how the hell a prototype can end up being auctioned off when it has been asked to be returned? And the whole review thing and Linuses "normal" WAN show explaining of "nothing matter but still everything matters but this doesn't matter because I say so" on top of that... This takes the crown from "No one else respects their warranties so I don't even want to make warranty promises" (where my point was exactly that "I just don't trust you, bro").
 
I won't be nitpicking around the numbers but I kind of knew that the Labs won't change that LTT is entertainment, not unbiased, hard-on facts and testing channel that will make sure their data is true and will post the video even if the sponsor pulls out because they didn't like the results. Those aren't the only times LTT videos have had problems and they won't be the last ones and I would believe LMG won't be changing their actions towards pushing utter bullshit and not officially and clearly owning it, the days later comment that will be pinned week later will be the standard.
 
I strongly agree with GN on that LMG should start to take more time with the videos. I do not underline that LMG would be intentionally bad with the facts but just that the people working don't have enough time to really do their job. I could understand if we were talking about some garage channel rushing videos out to please the algorithm to try to make the couple bucks but LMG level professional media company, unacceptable. The amount of videos doesn't matter if that translates into videos having factual problems and when the videos have factual problems, the "We send it to labs for testing" is just a bad joke. Actually I don't know does the labs really change anything on this front, if they are given the same amount of time as the writers and then the rest of the production, I am not a single bit surprised that there's problems with the data, include into that the "we run every test again" and you have a huge pile of problems incoming and Linus "trust me, bro" Sebastian presenting it as the truth for one of the biggest tech audiences there is and the sad part is, I cannot even trust that meaningful part of that audience will do their own homework and figure out the parts where time and money ended for the video.
 
But get your popcorns ready for the next WAN show because it's probably coming enough spices to salt and pepper everyone's popcorns.

Tiptoeing, being careful how to present his data and word his critique against LTT or products highly endorsed by LTT.
If Steve was anywhere, before this, to go "LTT is completely wrong", there would have been huge backslash from the LTT fanboys, the biggest tech channel that mainly goes for the entertainment and so caters less media literate people who have hard time understanding that their messiah/idol/bro Linus would lie to them.
 
Like you remember when the today sports drink seller and boxer cracked jokes about people who had ended their lives while walking around a forest where many people go to end their lives?
Before the main media started to call him asshole for it, a lot of his fans went completely frenzy against YT channels and people calling that guy an asshole and demanding shift response from YouTube. That's how, kind of, "retarded" people can be and why GN has needed to word his critique carefully. Like there is probably a ton of people right now writing how "evil" and "wrong" GN is for publishing that video and we can probably see from socialblade or somewhere how many of those people are unsubbing GN for calling Linus out. Like this forum taking mainly the more mature stand and even joining calling Linus out isn't something exceptional, but go and look at Twitter and YT and you can find those who are calling GN out for dirtying LTT.

Tiptoeing, being careful how to present his data and word his critique against LTT or products highly endorsed by LTT.
If Steve was anywhere, before this, to go "LTT is completely wrong", there would have been huge backslash from the LTT fanboys, the biggest tech channel that mainly goes for the entertainment and so caters less media literate people who have hard time understanding that their messiah/idol/bro Linus would lie to them.
 
Like you remember when the today sports drink seller and boxer cracked jokes about people who had ended their lives while walking around a forest where many people go to end their lives?
Before the main media started to call him asshole for it, a lot of his fans went completely frenzy against YT channels and people calling that guy an asshole and demanding shift response from YouTube. That's how, kind of, "retarded" people can be and why GN has needed to word his critique carefully. Like there is probably a ton of people right now writing how "evil" and "wrong" GN is for publishing that video and we can probably see from socialblade or somewhere how many of those people are unsubbing GN for calling Linus out. Like this forum taking mainly the more mature stand and even joining calling Linus out isn't something exceptional, but go and look at Twitter and YT and you can find those who are calling GN out for dirtying LTT.

Tiptoeing, being careful how to present his data and word his critique against LTT or products highly endorsed by LTT.
If Steve was anywhere, before this, to go "LTT is completely wrong", there would have been huge backslash from the LTT fanboys, the biggest tech channel that mainly goes for the entertainment and so caters less media literate people who have hard time understanding that their messiah/idol/bro Linus would lie to them.
 
Like you remember when the today sports drink seller and boxer cracked jokes about people who had ended their lives while walking around a forest where many people go to end their lives?
Before the main media started to call him asshole for it, a lot of his fans went completely frenzy against YT channels and people calling that guy an asshole and demanding shift response from YouTube. That's how, kind of, "retarded" people can be and why GN has needed to word his critique carefully. Like there is probably a ton of people right now writing how "evil" and "wrong" GN is for publishing that video and we can probably see from socialblade or somewhere how many of those people are unsubbing GN for calling Linus out. Like this forum taking mainly the more mature stand and even joining calling Linus out isn't something exceptional, but go and look at Twitter and YT and you can find those who are calling GN out for dirtying LTT.