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8 hours ago, Kisai said:

There's only three appropriate solutions:

1. If a game is withdrawn from sale. It must become de-facto public domain.

By the same logic every art piece when it is sold becomes sole property of the buyer and they can do whatever they want with it. Use it any way they ever want, even as commercially as possible, no need to even mention the artist if they don't want to. After all, the art piece isn't property of the artist anymore, they sold it and it is now sole property of the buyer.

After all if we take away the copyrights of the games, why should any other form of media or art be any different?

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2. If a game remains for sale but it's only the online component is withdrawn, they must open source the "server" component of the game, and patch the game so that the servers it communicates can be defined by the user.

Who's going to pay for that work? The game isn't generating even enough to keep the lights on and probably the preservist side is on the normal stance that especially they aren't paying for it, they just want it.

Also comparing to the current games who is going to run those servers. Like Battlefield currently runs quite impressive server architecture to combat hackers. Like if you have 50 player match going, on the server there actually isn't a one match for all but every player has their own match to which their actions are inputted and then actions of other players are selectively copied to that instance and send to the client. And all that so there wouldn't be any chance for client getting more information about the match than is necessary (so no chance for wall hacks).

That also means your normal gaming PC ain't going to run the server.

Then there's the hacker problem. To combat hacking you need to make more complicated netcode and strengthen your infrastructure, which will mean it will be more expensive and even further away from being something magically to be turned into open source.

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3. If a game is a MMO, and a subscription, or microtransactions are used to secure "property" within the MMO, then a shutdown of the MMO must result in a refund of ALL property transactions back to the customer.

Just say you want the monthly fees back. People really did love that you first bought a game and then needed to pay just to play it. Otherwise maybe you could figure out the mythical way of running servers without costs.

The worst this kind of law making would do is that every game would cease to work way before the laws are made just so companies can run away from the massive refunds and that would be end of that era because only idiots would even try to make online games.

But just to make it clear, IMO there's two sides which are both insufferably idiotic. The one side is greedy as hell but I don't think the other side is any better in their greed. Like I said, collecting money to sue a company which closed a game because running the game was unprofitable, instead of collecting money to buy the servers from the company and so preserving the game. I only remember one time someone has actually done something concrete was when Valve bought the rights to Arkham Asylum to get rid of the Microsoft DRM. Otherwise it's always pretty much whining whining and more whining.

And it all will be forgotten once the Outlaws hit the shelves. People, people never change, it's so funny how people are at one time on the barricades wanting to burn the company to the ground and the next the company releases new shiny thing, people are again completely fine with the company raping them. Just look at EatAss, it's actually miraculous how fast people forgot about lootboxes and the whole Walletfront 2 fiasco when Fallen Order dropped. Like EA was elbow deep in peoples rectums and people were very fucking angry but new shiny thing and having an arm in you is actually pretty awesome.

But that's pretty much the thing about modern people, boycotts and black listing is so long "fighting the machine" and being tough until it becomes inconvenient or people could actually miss something because they aren't in the bandwagon.

It's most likely for the shroud lights. The one 4-pin connector alone is for RGB on the logo and the 4-pin connector with the thicker cables (close to the 2-pin connector) is for the fans.

On one hand it sucks that games die and you cannot play them after that.

On the other hand, does even all the games (all, meaning every single one, not just the ones you love and like but also those you completely hate are bad and all that) deserve preservation? Remember, saying "all the games need preservation" does include asset flips, the ripoffs and other absolute garbage that is surprising someone managed to even release.

Third one is the ability to preserve them. I can give you and example of a "game" that is basicly impossible to be preserved by anyone else than me. It wasn't as much a game but experiment on how to use google maps to create VR game and the server part was basicly scraping Google Maps/Earth for satellite, 3D-city data and streetview for each player and streaming that to the headsets. To preserve that you would have either needed my server that was loaned from Google and directly connected to the Maps network for that data scraping or you would also need to duplicate the around 20 petabytes of Google Maps data. And then I would need to find a way to deliver all that to you, probably as always with these, for free because you didn't take into account that there might be something else than just a database and some calculations on positions and outcomes on the servers, not 20 petabytes worth of data (that HDD/SSD amount you must handle by yourself, good luck).

Would you be willing to invest your money to build custom server infrastructure to preserve one game that you love?

This brings us to the point I made when someone was collecting money to sue Ubishit for closing The Crew, why didn't he collect the money to buy the servers from Ubishit and host the game himself with that money if it is that important? Like, it's probably just few thousands per month (probably just ten times that on global scale, wouldn't like to leave out those three people loving it in the Bogo bogo island, would you?) that the servers cost. If the game is that loved collecting that much shouldn't be a problem especially for a youtuber.

I am playing a bit devil's advocate here, but that's also just the truth. There is costs to run online games, it is bad design to require online for single players and all that, I actually despise that so much I refuse to even consider getting those kinds of games from Humble Choice or anywhere else, I won't even talk about them because they're not worth even that much of my time. But when in the future it comes to preserving something like EVE:Online or Star Citizens or any other extremely massive projects, who is going to be even able to do that financially? Not every games uses servers that you can host from your PC, a lot of them do, but not all and when they don't we get the problem "who is going to preserve this when it's only a black hole of money and no one is willing to pay the bills?"

There's some open-back bluetooth headphones but that's pretty much it for that.

You could always try to hack some old wireless headphones and stuff their insides into open-back headphones or DIY some kind of box for those insides and connect headphones to that.

One possibility would be to get wireless monitoring system, as in one of those that musicians use on stages. You need to do the research what is good and what is not but I can say that much, be sure to see that they are stereo and keep eye on the RX side impedance because those are meant to power IEM's which means they probably won't have the power to run high impedance headphones. They are a possible solution but I won't give any guarantees that they are a good solution, they usually have latency lower or around 5ms and usually have just TRRS connector so any headphone will go with them, but the sound quality, price and can they run the headphones are big questions that you need to find the answers. I can say old Sennheiser Evolution series system had the capability to do VR with, not that great sound quality at least with cheap IEM's and used price was already like 400€ or something around there, it worked but that's pretty much it.

10 hours ago, stefanmz said:

I just have like 2 or three vinyl records and I have yet to hear them to decide if I want to continue buying them.

I will save you the $40 the dropshipped turntable you have linked would cost. No, they won't sound any better and you will be wasting your money, especially with $40 dropshipped thing already only in Amazon sold by 3 different dropshippers.

At the best you get to enjoy the really vintage music  listening experience which will include: Distorted sound even on low volume, basicly only middles because lows would need bigger speaker and highs would need smaller speaker, extra scratchy needle to "improve" the vintage experience on the second play, the lovely pops that are louder than the Jericho trumpets, twice as nasty and ten times more scary.

Just for reference, people who say vinyls are so great over digital audio and aren't doing so just because they're hipsters, have sunk usually 4-5 figure sums into their audio systems and probably have a turntable with a pricetag in the high 3 to middle 4 figure sums. And you think you can get anywhere near with $40?
If you inherit vinyl collection or get some crazy good deal for a bunch of vinyls, then it's probably wort it to invest the couple hundreds to have something with which to listen to them, or get something knowingly good as used. Couple vinyls and $40, cut your looses, get some Ikea frames for your vinyls and enjoy the album art while listening the album digitally, that is better investment than the dropshipped turntable with a speaker and bluetooth.

1 hour ago, FlyingPotato_is_taken said:

Camera & smart plug is enough to cancel it. No need to expose the entire printer to the internet.

I thought about that but I looked and about 60€ more compared to just doing it completely free, "nah, I trust way shadier things with my stuff already". And it's pretty much either someone breaks into my LAN through my printer or through my smart home hub or through both, just a question who you trust more. Neither OctoEverywhere nor Nedis seem to have done fishy things so far, so the cheaper option it is.

Thanks for pointing out where I can put the G-code thumbnails, was kind of thinking where that comes from but didn't get to it (there's "few" other things more important).

14 hours ago, jetnoodles said:

Would tailscale work?

Going with OctoEverywhere. Turns out there was already an app for that too, I just was dumb enough not to search with right terms

After years of circling it like a cat hot porridge: 3D-printer. A week ago to be exact but got it today.

Sovol SV07 Plus.

I have to say, I am disappointed. I excepted to spent at least couple days troubleshooting and tweaking and it was just going through the manual and the bloody thing just works. Just a bit G-code tweaking so the homing doesn't go haywire after the print head stucks to the print.

Good thing everything else took a while.

Decided to not spend 80€ or something for ready made drybox because "saving" money and just DIY that thing:

Costed probably more than 80€ if you include getting Zigbee based smart home hub and climate sensor for it just to escape the horrors that would have become from me trying to make a hole to read some digital thermo-humidity-meter (just look at that beautiful smearing of silicon to make a casket for the lid). But it will hold a lot of filaments and good 12% humidity with only metering consuming power, 2x1kg of reusable silica gel bags should be enough for a long time and when they stop, just few times few minutes in microwave.

At least the concrete block was cheaper than I expected.

Now just need to figure out how I could connect to the fluidd/mainsail with phone remotely. Was kind of hoping NordVPN's Meshnet would do it but of course it doesn't support Android phones jumping to the local network through Windows.

34 minutes ago, YoungBlade said:

We have very different ideas about what a "limited budget" means.

 

I was thinking where you cheap out when spending around $600 or so for the whole PC. You've listed a single component that would be more than that.

 

It's all relative, but once you get north of $1,200 for the build, I think in most situations, cutting corners stops making sense. You can go from a Ryzen 7 7700 to a Ryzen 5 7600 and not lose much performance with an RTX 4070. That saves you over $100, and that one change alone would easily afford you a solid case and a dual-tower CPU cooler as an increase in budget for those components over what you were spending before.

You probably know the word "example"?

I can go for example, why would you pay around 20€ more for Asus RX 6500XT TUF Gaming OC than Sapphire RX 6500 XT PULSE? The Asus probably has one more blinking light but is that really worth 20€? If you're going for dGPU, it's pretty much stupid to go for the i3 14100 and not save the 20€ again and go for the 14100F. We can do that same in the RTX 4090 and i9/Ryzen 9 range and save quite significant sums without really changing anything, i9 14900KS is just 100MHz faster in max boost than the over 100€ cheaper 14900K, Gigabyte RTX 4090 Windforce V2 is over 200€ cheaper than Gaming OC and all you loose is 15MHz of boost clock and get a different plastic shroud.

Doing the research and knowing what you need and what you don't will save you few coins here and there even without really changing the product and that applies to any price ranges. In every price range there is also straight out stupidity in pricing which you can shave off without really loosing anything else than the status of being stupid sheep.

Sometimes spending that 20€ more and getting the iGPU may save you a lot of time and money, like if you're buying used dGPU and aren't 100% sure it works and you don't have troubleshooting gear. But that is decision to be made by knowing what you have and what you need. Like if you're getting dGPU, iGPU is 90% waste of money, the amount of DOA hardware is rather low and "maybe I need it in the future"-mentality is often for vain.

Case and fans are clear places to cheap out as much as possible.

CPU cooler and storage to some extent. So, don't go for the cheapest of the cheapest but you won't also need the best of the best so getting cheap is okay.

RAM, CPU and GPU mindfully. Like if you're on a budget, do the research. Figure out what you want and what you need and ask around. You can lower your budget surprisingly lot if you learn to read the data somewhat, not just what is presented but the frame also. Like it's clear that in pure specs something like RTX 4070 TUF isn't as good as RTX 4070 STRIX OC, but that's like $100-200 difference and the real difference, different plastics and really nothing (the 50Mhz higher boost clock is really nothing, absolutely nothing, just get AfterBurner or whatever and put the power limit to 110% and like 10C more in temperature target and you can easily overclock that TUF version higher than the STRIX OC). Same with CPU's, like if you're on a budget and every penny counts and you're looking at something like Ryzen 7 7700 vs. 7700X, it's like $10 difference but what that $10 gives you, 700MHz higher base clock and 100MHz more theoretical boost clock, the base clock really doesn't mean shit because the CPU will boost and figure itself out, the 100MHz in the boost clock really isn't anything, if you're on a budget there's clear $10 savings.

Any extra lights and bling bling, forget. They are the one thing that costs nothing to add to the product but brings a lot of profit which means people are willing to buy higher price for that cents costing extra light. If you want lights and keep budget, order RGB light strips from AliExpress of some other, they cost almost nothing and with some crafting look as good if not better.

Like for serious example how much companies are pissing on people buying some bling bling. The couple inch screen on some AIOs that cost like 100-200€ more than the same thing without one, that screens costs like 20€ + like 20€ control board. it's even worse if they have been so fucking greedy it's just HDMI-screen because then the control board costs like 5€ and is more likely included in the screen. Anyone who thinks that is worth the +100€ is fucking idiot in my opinion. If you're on a budget and not a baller, drop all of that and rather DIY it, finding LED strips and the few inch screens isn't hard and they don't cost a much if you want to add them, even better if you DIY them, you probably have better control over them than through some manufacturers proprietary software.

Motherboard, think what you really need and want.

PSU, never cheap out, just never. Of course don't buy anything stupid like the ones with screens or stupidly overkill for your parts. But never, ever, ever, never go and buy the surprise firecracker discount piece. Check the PSU tier list and get something good because that will save you a lot by being sure not to fuck things up.

1 hour ago, 05032-Mendicant-Bias said:

How are still investors falling on the "projector works in daylight" scam... There sure are lots of dumb investors that fail to hire competent advice for their tech investment out there...

Same way they keep falling for roads made from solar panels, wireless charging over long distances, trains running in vacuum tubes, radioactive batteries, free energy, carbon nanotubes this and superconductor graphene that and did I miss something and is every techbro now offended?

Pretty much if any upcoming tech device from some startup requires more than 1 or 2 major breakthroughs in common technology (AiPin has camera, projection, AI processing and generally breaking in completely new product category), don't believe it before you see it, there's more than 80% chance for it being investment scam and they never had any way or even any want to produce that thing. There is the small chance it's just going to be a complete let down and just misleading marketing in hopes to get rich and run with the money and extremely vanishing chance it's actually real. There's a reason why these things usually go more public funding path and that is because usual investment paths smell the smoke a mile away and it's much easier to get peoples retirement funds than try to apply for business loan from a bank with faked videos.

In no particular order:

- Close Combat series (especially the earlier ones)

- Star Wars: X-Wing Alliance

- Jedi Knight series

- Die By The Sword

- Fallout (mostly 1 and 2)
- GORN

- In Sound Mind

- Hugo

- TES series

- Duke Nukem 3D

- Myst

- Elite: Dangerous

- The Incredible Machine

- Sniper Elite

- Batman Arkham series

Yada yada yada...

4 hours ago, GoStormPlays said:

Probably so, Nintendo isn't one to just delete functionality from your console just because they want you to buy their new consoles. Plus, if the player base was really large, then if they deleted those servers then a bunch of people would get mad.

*Looks at 3DS* Yeah, Nintendo definedly would do exactly that. And isn't even this thread exactly people getting angry for Nintendo closing the servers?

And no, the overpriced plastic screened Nvidia Shield Tablet is the very last "console" I would ever buy.

2 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

An update to this has been several Youtubers and other organizations cutting sponsorships. Which is fine, I guess. But some of them are doing it in a way which is hypocritical imo. As the sponsorships have been both money and free hardware, not acknowledging that the equipment has been received for free during the time when this was active, or maybe even after investigation was finished and public. So these people have been enjoying same benefits as with sponsorship while pretending to be holy. 

 

I don't mind cutting ties, thats each own decision and I hope they have thought it through. But I find it morally odd to not acknowledge that there was/has been sponsorship and some equipment are from that. They could ofc pay up what is owed, but these people are as greedy as they are now accusing Jimms to be. So not likely.

That is generally problem with anything like this. A lot of people are noisy and rising to the barricades and at the same time do the most hypocritical things possible because convenience.

Personally I love it when there's news about some factory getting caught using child labor or something else and people start almost screaming how bad it is and how they will never support companies that manufactured anything in that factory... And then they order shit from Chinese dropshit stores, because "so cheap", and whole thing is either way forgotten when the new shiny miracle windchime is released.

Assembly has dropped Jimm's from the official sponsors but I am 75% sure if the Assembly Summer 2024 has gaming competitions or loaner machines, they all are from Jimm's because pretty much unless some stores do huge upgrades in their resources and manning, there's either PCs from Jimm's or some pre-builds. And week-couple later when those come to sale, they will sell like hot potatoes as always because they go really cheap and are "okay" gaming machines. I don't think people even remember this whole thing when that time comes, no matter how much they now bluster in the social media.

At least YouTubers will be back in the sponsor rings after the smoke clears, there's probably couple who have the balls not to return but most of them don't give a shit about anything else than doing the business.

I remember there having been something like this back when caseking bought Jimm's, in smaller scale but still, and it really came to nothing. I remember when the Verkkokauppa.com opened their store in Raisio and the security side was bought by some Easterneuropean/Russian flipping tourists who curved past the line in a bus and were let in because "they had brought a paper with names a day before", that was juicy shit in social media especially when that bus full of people basicly cleaned the store from opening discounts, people were going to boycott Verkkokauppa and what came from that? Absolutely nothing. Even in world scale, workers were jumping from the roof of the Foxconn factory, people got angry and were going to boycott Apple for using a factory with such working environment, couple months past and people are back to staining their panties over the new iPhones made in that exact Foxconn factory (later they installed the anti-suicide nets but that was like couple years later).

"Pretty visible". Basicly Jimm's is the only store in Finland selling certain things like pretty much everything more niche in PC building. Tells a lot when you go to Verkkokauppa.com, the second big PC component seller in Finland, and for them "watercooling" means only AIOs. You need custom watercooling stuff, it's either Jimm's, internet or back to the good old days of junkyards and aquarium stores.

Just to add to the situation before someone comments "just buy from Amazon". We don't have Amazon or eBay, we must use German Amazon and eBay. Amazon Prime in Finland is pretty much only the streaming service, no next day deliveries or anything. Wanna order from Caseking? That would be shipping costs starting at 14,99€.

There used to be more PC stores in Finland but like almost closer to 15 years ago certain PC store brand (Tietoasema) aggressively underpriced everything and spread like a cancer only to drive pretty much everyone else except Jimm's (which survived only by being as niche store as it is) out and then one day just folded like a wet card house leaving a huge vacuum that was filled pretty much only by Jimm's. There's some PC stores but pretty much all of them are more or less just selling components as a secondary business and primary thing being selling laptops and serving business customers.

I am all in for banning retractable door handles and while at it they should also ban electronic only door mechanisms.

From experience with the brainfart Mazda 6 2016 wagon which has only electronic trunk latch and oh boy, is it "fun" when your battery goes bad and you have dog barrier and of course your jumper cables are in the trunk and your friend who came to give power doesn't have cables. At that point many will understand why mechanical bypass is pretty damn good to include (or at least not hard mounted dog barriers). That was money well spent to get another pair of jumper cables.

I don't even want to imagine how "fun" it must be when you have only electric latches in every door and hatch and then your battery goes bye bye. But I guess if you have the money to drive such a car, you probably can afford the tow to the shop or replace the window, except if someone was stupid enough to put extra durable window that you cannot easily break (RIP Lassie on a hot summer day).

Either there's clearly visible mechanical bypass or the manufacturers figure out standard place for it so, it is there and not just somewhere.

And also while at it, demand that all even slightly necessary car functions must be able to be performed without watching anything else than the road. So, fuck the tablet cars. If you need to go through even 1 setting screen to adjust your A/C or change the radio station, that is too much eyes away from the road. If car must have touch screen, it should be locked while driving, you have all the time getting handsy with your car on a parking lot, no need to do that shit on the road.

Everything anyone would need to do while driving should be instinctive and everyone should be able to do them eyes closed in their dreams without sacrificing a single second of their attention from the road.

34 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Anyway, I am getting pretty fucking sick and tired of the "watch something else" responses. It's such a cop out answer because you could say that about basically anything, and it doesn't address the actual complaints. People use it as some kind of card they pull when they can't actually respond to the criticism raised but they still feel like they need to defend some company/person. If you don't like this thread then stop reading it. See how stupid it is? It's basically like telling someone "shut the fuck up". It's not a clever responsive, it doesn't address anything said, and it is rude. 

 

 

People need to stop thinking that people who complain are some kind of enemy. Complaints oftentimes comes from a place of love. OP is an LTT viewer and raised their opinion on how LTT can improve their content. That's not something you do maliciously. It's the people who don't think any criticism is valid and will always lick the boots of whichever company or person they have an unhealthy obsession with that are the real danger. You might not agree with their opinion, but if that's the case then say that. Don't say "you are not welcome here if you don't like the same things I like, and I like everything X does". 

I think the "go watch something else" is actually the best answer. If you don't like something why are you consuming it and complaining? Why don't you just take your time, resources, money and everything and give them away to someone who really deserves it, who you can watch without needing to complain? Why must someone, something, whatever else turn into something that is tailored for you rather than you try to find that what you want elsewhere?

I believe this is the biggest problem in todays world, people don't have the backbone to say "this isn't for me, you crossed the line, goodbye" and walk away. But no, they must consume exactly that, get offended by it, interact by complaining and... Do the exact thing that brings in the money. Any social media and especially YouTube lives from the interaction, they don't give a fuck what kind of interaction it is just as long as people leave comments, click the links and generate data that can be monetized. That's why Facebook and Twitter turn into polarized echo boxes because people are more likely to interact with things they agree with and things that they strongly disagree with. Same thing in gaming, EA and Ubishit will continue make the complete garbage level business and drive the game industry into hell because people are too weak to say "fuck it" and leave the NHL and Assassin's Creed into the shelves and not even consume the time it takes to complain about the games.

Enough people just walk away and don't do the thing that brings money to the table, the business must change.

If the humor of LTT isn't your piece of bread, walk away, don't give LTT the views and exposure they need to make money, just walk away and hope enough people have felt the same and are wise enough to do the same and LTT must change their content to lure the people back in, do the changes they need to do to deserve your time and resources over the millions of other content creators competing for your time.

It is a hard thing but that's life, sometimes you must give up what you love to make the thing you love better.

17 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Yah, robbed of this great segue to our sponsor!!

[REDACTED], so you don't... Wait. Isn't it March still? We can't put this sponsor out prematurely, it would be rather ironic.

This is very odd thing to go on. It's like an infant learned a new word and now it's everywhere and the infant really doesn't understand what the word means neither that it's just one thing and there's so much more.

This is so much similar thing as the lootbox hunt for games. Everyone so furious about lootboxes and have million opinions on lootboxes and game monetization about lootboxes and like 99% of them do not even have a clue where the virtual casino actually begins at and how much they have been carried in a bag like a little pigs now for about couple decades. But LOOTBOXES! For example the earliest and currently again kind of a huge trend is the premium currency aka. token, it's primary function is to cloud the use of real money, like no one thinks that they are using $1€ when they pay that 10 gems on power-up. The current fancy thing is to have two or more premium currencies from which one can be only bought with real money (others can be also bought but they're also gained through gameplay), the dirty part is also that but what is the real shit is to limit either by item amounts or just directly different "store" or items how much and where you can use the "lesser" premium currencies and have unlimited, better and a ton more expensive for the one "whale currency" and the normal game currency is pretty much meaningless resource that you pile in millions and get pretty much nothing with. BUT LOOTBOXES!!!

There's almost no one complaining about how much influencers actually skew the image. Like want to take a guess how many still have their Apple Vision Pros? I was almost going to die from laughter when couple probably already over their teens were filming some intro for some video outside of local PC store about reviewing some AIB RTX 4090... And then inside the camera man was returning one RTX 4090 while the host was getting one and both acted like they didn't even know each other in the store. So many youtubers take sponsorships from almost on the verge of being scams even after the whole Scammed Titles and Scamikoto knives and whatever thing came crashing down, like the damn scent water bottle. Hell, there's times when YouTube ITSELF runs some subsidy scam ads and where's the outrage?

So, the baby just learned the word "tax write off" and it needs to be repeated everywhere. Is it a big thing? Nope, those are very small things that hardly do anything, there's bigger gains in crunching the numbers and planning the investments so you buy more at the time but spread that cost across longer time so you don't suddenly loose a lot of money because you invested it into new machinery or something. For purely taxation point the bigger thing would be actually turning your direct income into investment income by just not paying wage for yourself but making a holding company that owns your business and only taking the dividends from the holding company because that is super cheaply taxed income in pretty much all around the globe.

But that is something everyone with a business and halfway decent accountant do. If people were so upset about that, better get the torches and start burning pretty much every single company they come across from Ben&Jerry's to Apple to LMG (I would remember Linus mentioning that Yvonne has actually done that to some extent with the "Yvonnes evil corporation" that owns LMG).

BUT TAX WRITE OFFS!!!

I think this is pretty stupid for consumers.

Notice: For consumers.

As Plouffe stated, in bigger picture almost no one really cares if their TV is displaying "the correct" colors, they just care the image looks subjectively great. For them the calibrated natural HDR looks just F'ing boring, they want that pop of color and contrast, a bit sharpening and there's the perfect. The TV doesn't need complex and expensive AI systems to do that, <$20 ASIC that boosts saturation, contrast, adds a bit of sharpening and stuffs the content through 10-bit. encoder so the backlights/OLEDs know to adjust their brightness correctly.

Does it create image that will make the video aficionados cry over how beautifully natural it is? Absolutely not but 95% of the population will piss their pants over how great the image is.

This is kind of the same thing as the V-curve in headphones. It is something that over 90% of the population prefers and it's dirt cheap to make and no matter how much the <1% audiophiles cry about it, it just is what it is (also even audiophiles seem to hate actual monitor headphones with actual neutral output because it is what it is, flat as pancake and has less soul than stale bread, not very delightful). So, boost the bass and treble and there you have your <$100 headphones that, as long as they have good frequency range, sound great for most and you don't need to even do anything really expensive for that.

For professionals and video aficionados who want that natural HDR, a bit more development, more datasets and Nvidia might have something in their sleeve.

Let me get this right.

What you want is to have single audio output from multiple computers, you want to hear audio from multiple sources through single headphones without latency?

In that case, get a mixer. That's what all the streamers do, they use mixer to get monitoring output from the PC/console/whatever, their microphone and (possibly) their streaming PC and then they send the mixer output back to the streaming machine, add the required latency to the video to catch the audio latency coming from the mixer and stream the whole package.

As in:

MAC -> [Mixer line in 1]

PC (-> DAC, optional) -> [Mixer line in 2]

[Microphone/whatever] -> [Mixer input 3]

[Mixer monitoring/output 2] -> amp -> headphones

[Mixer main output] (-> ADC, optional) -> PC -> Stream

Also why are you running your Mac into the both inputs of the M-Track? You know the first input (with XLR/TRS combojack) does 2-channel input already? At least it is XLR/TRS combojack so I would presume it does stereo input.

Well, either way, you will always have latency in the M-track input and whatever PC output unless you use ASIO to eliminate the Windows sound mixer completely (this is what ASIO does, it purges the whole Windows audio stack and leaves it to the USB interface and the software to figure it all out) and use the M-Track for output also.

If your DAC supports ASIO (which Shiit doesn't because audiophile stuff and reasons) you could use ASIO4All to control the ASIO drivers and reroute things (but as Schiit doesn't make ASIO drivers for their stuff, this doesn't matter).

You can try to pull double duty on the M-Track if you don't need stereo output from your desktop (as in you just need notification sounds and whatever from the desktop to appear mixed with the Mac output) by connecting your desktop to the M-tracks input 2 (mono, the sole TS jack), set the Windows output to the M-track and then use ASIO side of M-track to pull both inputs to OBS (or whatever) and set ASIO output back to the M-track and connect your amp to the RCA output of the M-track.

So your signal path would be:

MAC -> [3.5mm TRS to 6.35mm TRS] -> M-Track input 1 (the combojack, Phantom power off!)

desktop -> [something that will turn TRS into single TS, so stereo to mono] -> M-Track input 2 (set to line instead of instrument (the guitar))

M-Track (ASIO) USB -> desktop for OBS/whatever software with ASIO support -> M-Track (ASIO) RCA output (or the headphone out) -> amp -> headphones

If you need to use the DAC, it goes between the desktop and the something that will turn the TRS to TS for the M-track input 2.

With output you have a choice, you can either plug your amp into the RCA outputs of the M-Track and listen the final output which will have some minimal latency (with ASIO and no heavy effects and processing few milliseconds) OR you can plug your amp into the headphone output of the M-Track and monitor the inputs completely without latency (the headphone switch on the M-Track to "Direct").

For streaming or whatever you need to split the OBS output to some 3rd output (virtual or whatever) that will be the streaming audio output that is SEPARATE from the "default" Windows audio output (which is connected to the M-Track input 2 as mono).

TL;DR:
Just get a mixer and connect all your machines outputting noise to it, one output from it to the headphones and second for streaming.

Add this to the list of things to think before pouring your hard earn money on Nintendo products.

On 3/3/2024 at 7:30 PM, Glenwing said:

That makes no sense, the use of FRC is not related to refresh rate, nor does the system know whether the monitor uses FRC or not; it just sees a 10 bpc display.

The couple monitors I have seen with FRC have been like that. I must say I haven't dug enough there since I decided to go directly native 10 bit supports so didn't need to look deeper. But I would guess it's about that the panel itself can do max. 170Hz so the FRC must also fit into that, which means the "refresh rate" of 10 bit content must be slower than 170Hz to make time to fit that flickering between two colors within the refresh rate of the panel.

Much easier to explain what I mean with 3D TV's and glasses. The 3D content requires that per one frame of the content the TV must show 1 frame per eye to create the 3D effect, this means if the TV has a panel that has 120Hz refresh rate (120 frames per second) it can only do 60 "fps" 3D content, it is still doing 120Hz/fps but the content must run half of that because the frames are divided between eyes.

Same with FRC, the FRC must flicker two 8 bit colors to recreate a 10 bit color, this will eat the rate at which the monitor can show content because it needs to show more frames per frame of the content to recreate the 10 bit colors. The system exactly doesn't know the monitor uses FRC so the monitor must slow down the rate at which the system sends content so the monitor has time to show the content with FRC, so it just tells the system the refresh rate is lower.

Because your monitor only supports 8 bit + FRC, so it's either "10 bit" at 120Hz OR 8 bit at 170Hz.

Directly from the ViewSonic

There isn't any loop around that because the monitor itself is acting as HDR monitor and taking that 120Hz 10 bit signal and then changing it to 8 bit + FRC at that 120Hz, which is probably close to normal 8 bit at 170Hz because FRC is basicly just flickering two 8 bit colors to mimic 10 bit color.

I don't know what is included in the media bargaining code but depending what it is these are my opinions:

1) The scrutinized part is including news site's own summary of the article with the link. In that case I am fully fine the social media must buy licensing that content because that is someone elses content they are using.

2) Including platform written summary of the article with the link. This is kind of asshole move but greyarea especially when then news media starts to be so damn awful with their clickbait the YouTubers seem to be not misleading with their thumbnails and video titles. I would probably directly move the linking fees to the users and make the users pay for that all because seriously, I would pay for that service so I can go fast through world events without clickbait garbage that the modern news media likes to sow.

3) It's not the summary, just that the social media platform links to the article in any form (be it the page title, article title or just the plain URL). News media got completely greedy and they should just crawl under a rock and die. Social media platform should just right out delete every post linking to those sites and make getting to those news sites as hard as possible (no hyperlinks in any form, if user wants to it's typing the URL, copy-paste or through external search engine) and as a cherry on the top, ban the news medias from the platforms (they didn't want their content to be linked on the platform so why would they want to be on the platform in the first place?).