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What rumors? 5800x3D is a massive upgrade for you, 7800x3D Even more of a massive upgrade. Of course 9800x3D will be even more of an upgrade, but at what point do you want to buy it? With a 3600, you didnt really specify a budget, and if you are planning on selling it for 150 euro, i dont think youd be on the high end of that market.

Also what GPU will you be using? Doesnt really make sense to buy a 9800x3D if you pair it with a sub par GPU. Its gonna be a bump rather thena  jump in performance.

For now id wait to see, since its only going to be a few months.

A company overcharging for their parts and having their quality drop significantly in the past 4 years is struggling to do basic business things? Say it aint so!

Hopefully people start learning more of these companies are scummy. It will be interesting to see how the EKWB fanboys that try to defend them on this.

Depends on the games. If you play most FPS, G-Sync is absolutely worthless, turn it off.

Adjust the ingame settings to the best you can to get to 240fps.

10 minutes ago, Cryogenic said:

My frieng has a gaming laptop with monitor 180 hz it perfectly supports 180hz connected with hdmi

Are you sure about that? Since HDMI 2.0 is limited to 144hz. If that laptop has HDMI 2.1 then its technically possible but even then they tend to be just limited to 144hz. Are  you sure they arent using a USB -C Port?

Just now, Cryogenic said:

I have a gaming laptop acer nitro 16 which has ryzen 7 and rtx 4060 and planning to buy 1440p monitor 180hz for gaming i play valorant will my laptop support it

Again HDMI tends to be 144hz, told you that in your last topic.

29 minutes ago, Cryogenic said:

Can we use hdmi to dp cable to get 240hz

No.

Would not go above a 4070 / 7900GRE . You would have to upgrade the CPU to get much more performance.

4 minutes ago, Cryogenic said:

Can you suggest monitor for my gaming laptop which supports 240hz

HDMI wont let you do that

Do more research before you buy a monitor You can either keep it for now since you have HDMI and it should be usable, and one day use a desktop with it, or return it and get a 144/165hz monitor.

4 hours ago, ParzivalAero said:

What if I just absolutely went for it and did this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DZfPTY

Its really dumb and wasteful to just spend money cause you can. 7950x3D is a bad cpu. 7800x3D has the exact same performance in almost every single game. The CCD management has had issues and just is not worth dealing with. Its a good in theory cpu, but bad in execution for people who dont really know how to fully troubleshoot the issues you will run into.

Stick with cl30 6000 mhz ram. Less issues. Again you dont need 64 GB if you are just gaming.

It really just comes down to do you value your money? Spending 2000$ on a 4090 just for it to be potentially leap frogged in 6 months is just not worth it. Unless you absolutely need it, i would either choose 4080 super or 7900xtx depending on if you want RT or not.

You have red flags already. your first build should be done right, and not buy now and then upgrade in 6 months. Do it once and spend once.

7800x3D is the best for gaming overall. The next set of cpus are coming out this year for AM5, so its kind of a meh time to build a PC for high end specs.

7900xtx Is not a 4090 tier card, its a 4080ish card. Depends on most games, and depends on if you want Ray tracing.

We dont know if the 5090 is launching in the winter, and even if it is, goodluck buying one.
 

Do you actually need a 4090 tier PC? Because most people simply dont need that much performance with that kind of price tag.

1 hour ago, LordSethos2000 said:

Country: Canada

hey all - new poster - long time reader

What would you think, performance wise, am I leaving on the table with this setup?
 

Windows 11 pro
ASUS Rog Crosshair VIII Hero (wifi) X570
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, 16-Core  4850 MHz (48.5 x 100)
4 x G-Skill Trident Z Royal F4-4000C18-16GTRS (64gb total) (default timing set to 1900MHZ (3800MHZ)
GigaByte RTX 4070ti

attached are my GPUZ, CPUZ and HWInfo screenshots

Biggest issue you will have is RAM instability. 4000 mhz ram Rarely ever works well on AM4 or On DDR4 Intel Cpus. If you experience any instability, drop it down to 3600 mhz and see if its more stable.

VA Panels are generally hot garbage for high FPS shooters. Stick with IPS panels when it comes to shooter games. VA has come a long way, but its still sub-par when it comes to smearing and just not great performance.

Hopefully OLED will continue to drop in price, as that will be the best performing and looking screen by far.

11 minutes ago, podkall said:

yeah but isn't AM5 too expensive for sub 1000$ budget?

Not really honestly. There are certainly New bundles that make it, but hes in India so not sure how good their deals are etc.

3 minutes ago, bhatakti_atama said:

Yes but the benchmarks are done with a top of the line gpu but I'll be using a lower mid range card so how much of a difference would that make I am not sure 

You want the most that fits within your budget. Spend 120$ now, and that gives you exactly what you need AND the potential for an upgrade if you choose to do so. If you need to save every last bit then yes, save the money.

since you are not interested in the used market, it seems odd that you are saving 120$

MOBO should only be a 30-40$ difference at this point, ram should be a 15$ difference. the CPU should be the main price difference right?

If i had to chose between the two, id go 7600 because it still gives you a  platform to upgrade. You clearly are not in the camp of needing the absolute best of the best, but maybe in 4 years when you want more performance, you only need to do a CPU drop in upgrade then!

The "if you bought this product they will have legal issues" People tend to be in the countries that have pretty awful laws. Germany and many of the EU countries have pretty stupid laws with this type of product against the consumer instead of being against the company.

How do they get away with it? Simple, most of the time they do not care if a business does this thing. Can almost say with certainty the goverments and such are FAR more annoyed with Der8aur then they are with lamptron with this kind of issue. This has been an issue for years with that company, theyve probably been told quite a few times about it and nothing was really done. Now that a somewhat popular youtuber made a big issue about it, i can see them being pretty annoyed at him rather then the company.

9 minutes ago, goatedpenguin said:

performance loss is a big issue tho, and not to mention my idea is trying to remove having a guest OS in the first place its more like the two OSes are in conjunction not one below the other. Secondly, Vm allocation afaik is static not dynamic(excluding kubernetes since that is on the cloud). If you want good 3d performance in a Vm you need additional hardware which is more costly same as using two computers.  Thirdly, this idea I have can use a microkernel architecture sorta thing to make it less prone to crashing, isolation etc. 

Yeah this idea is pretty much just nonsense due to the amount of work and the very small audience it would be aimed at. VMS are the answer here. Thats quite literally it. Dual OS trying to use resources just wouldnt go so well. There has to be a division of resources (hence why VMS exist) otherwise there will be a conflict. Its not a simple process, its far more complex than that.

Something Has to sort out which OS has what resources, if you can divide them up in BIOS then it could feasibly work, have OS #1 us DDR Channel 1+3, OS2 use DDR 2+4. Have OS Use Cores 0-7, OS 2 use 8-15 etc. But that may be asking a lot of most BIOS chips, it would have to be increased in size quite a bit. 

Youd have to get a MOBO vendor to be on board and program that, spend the time making sure it works and fix potential issues, Fix when updating the bios to try saving settings etc.

54 minutes ago, GozenUnknown said:

V0.6 works -> V2.0 doesn't work, and how they jump from Beta v0.6 to V2 is strange. 

Usually it goes to v1 first but anyway, for some reason v2 doesn't work on my system/os

 

The App opens and says error presentmon is not running and i tried to reinstall it and same.

 

system:

OS: Win10 22H2(19045.4291)

AMD FX-8350

Sapphire RX590 GME(580)(Adrenalin 24.3.1)

16GB DDR3

Just gonna save you time. Dont even bother on that type of system. Not worth running it lol

With a 12 year old Cpu, its not unexpected for it to be broken on software like that. Even if previous  versions worked. Also its still basically a beta software so probably that as well.

16GB is more then enough for what you will be doing on it, its a complete non issue that people are blowing out of proportion.

It pretty much comes down to do you EVER want to turn on ray tracing? Then go Nvidia, if you dont care for RT, go AMD. Their performance is roughly the same. If you have specific games you play, check their results as some perform better on one card then the other.

Power connector is important as well, i prefer the 8 pin plugs since they have been proven to be much more reliable, but as long as you properly install the 12vHPWR connector you should be fine. AS long as your  PSU has 3 PCIE power plugs (each one should be its own plug) you should be fine as the cards do come with the adapter in the box.

No. Never works like that with Nvidia. They dont discount, they just wait till they are out of stock. Especially since its probably going to be a repeat, 5090/5080 launch first, then after 6 months -1Y 5060/5070. Only if they have an extreme over abundance of stock will they slightly discount it.

That is one sketchy link ya got there. Id just watch his videos on IEMS and make your choice.

If you are just gaming, 7800x3d. 7950x is pointless for gaming.

7900xtx isnt bad, but those 3 games dont really require the top of line line hardware to actually run.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j3nDdH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($388.12 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($169.00 @ MSI)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($154.99 @ Walmart)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card  ($919.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Pop XL Air ATX Full Tower Case  ($109.97 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e (2023) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.00 @ Walmart)
Total: $2021.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-12 21:33 EDT-0400

leaves you with 1000$ for Monitor+Keyboard+mouse.

4 minutes ago, Imapancake22 said:

I'm going to get an extension cable for it but in the meantime it's too short to plug in. Will my PC break if I turn it on and not have it plugged in?

you dont need to have 3 topics on the same plug. Just take off the cooler and plug it in. Stop being lazy.

Not the only laptop brand to have issues with Iphone USB C.  In general its an apple issue so.

Did you update the bios IN the bios, or did you update the bios using that bios flash button? If you can, always update bios in bios. The Flash bios button on the USB IO panel is a last resort.

Sounds like you have screwed up the bios chip, and youll probably have to return the board. Since you have tried flashing it a few times.

other things to note, these bios flash USBS tend to prefer USB 2.0 drives.