I know I know but from the benches comparing the 1800x and 1700x it scales pretty shit with clocks very unlike polaris, but the fact they their 1700X is like 70 dollars more than the 6800K and performs much better in multi threaded Im impressed, but from what we can see Intel will still perform better for gaming tasks because of the higher clocks
Linus' showed the 1800x and the 6900K perform the exact same, at half the price, with the Ryzen clocked almost 0.8 GHzs faster, so if Ryzen OCs bad, than Intel will still have the "better" CPUs, just not the best price
I guess going from a minute loads for rainbow six siege pissing everyone off to instant isnt good, or 2 minute Arma loading times to 10 seconds isnt useful?