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X570 chipset has more features than B550. Looking at the X570 version, it dropped the 2.5G Ethernet. The X570 version has more PCIe expansion slots with more lanes, better audio solution (with optical S/PDIF) and more USB3.2 Gen1 instead of USB2.0. But you didn't list any of this as things that you look for. What you looked for was decent Ethernet and B550-A PRO wins there because everything else you cared about is the same on these boards.
 
There is an argument to be made that you can upgrade Ethernet with a PCIe NIC but the 10G cards today are still over a 100$, 2.5G NIC can be had around 30$ though. The other thing is that most of the consumer network gear still don't support more than gigabit Ethernet. So if you need to upgrade later, the prices for faster NICs and network gear and other devices are probably going to come down.
 
So, even though the B550A-PRO has better Ethernet, I would probably get X570-A PRO because it has more features and you can get better Ethernet with an expansion card later. If you really care about faster Ethernet and can use it today, go with B550-A PRO.

Thanks guys! That's the one I'll be going with, then. 

I would go with B550 - you will get support for at least next generation of Ryzen. I found three boards under 150€ at Amazon.de (which is the only German seller I can look at, I'm not from Germany). Then I compared the boards and found out that the clear feature winner is this one:
 
MSI B550-A PRO - 149€
This is the only board with 2.5Gb/s Ethernet. Since you are working with media, this might come handy down the line. Per your requirements, it's ATX, has 4 RAM slots (you will not get more with Ryzen AFAIK), one USB Type C, internal Type C header (for front panel). It has one more 10Gb USB A port - not Type C but same speed.
 
Boards with B550 are more expensive because they have more features. You can go with B450 which is cheaper but depending on the motherboard, you won't be able to upgrade your CPU. Also, 6 SATA ports might be harder to come by since B450 supports less SATA ports than B550.

The 1700X officially only supports memory up to 2667Mhz
 
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-1700x
 
Anything past this is technically an overclock and not guaranteed to work.
 
The memory not being on the motherboard's QVL is usually not an issue.
 
Make sure you have the latest drivers installed for your GPU.
 
The 1700X should not be a bottleneck for a GTX 1070.

you aren't likely to get 3200 out of a 1st gen amd chip.
try for 2933 or 2800. make sure to update the bios
verify/repair game files to make sure nothing is messed up. DDU gpu drivers and do a fresh install

Searched a bit on Alternate, they got lots of B550 boards, got the same board like @redteam4ever.
Here is the link: https://m.alternate.de/MSI/B550-A-PRO-Mainboard/html/product/1647937

B450 tomahawk would be the cheapest I would go, but if you're not overclocking it's perfectly adequate. However I would recommend trying to get the MSI B550 tomahawk or Mortar instead as they are better all round and have better future support. The mortar should be little cheaper. B550 would definitely be the platform I would recommend with a €150 budget. However, there aren't many reviews yet so I would try and wait a few weeks. Hardware Unboxed on YT should do a roundup of the best board sometime soon, and that should give you an idea of the best choices at your price point

Its not imperative the whole IHS be covered, at least with intel. I put a line down the center, plop the cooler on it, give it a titty twister and clamp it down. The IHS is mainly there so that you the user does not smash all the cores, like how easy it was on socket 462.

I specifically looked for 4 DIMM slots, the Tomahawk has them and it will support 4th gen Ryzen because it's B550. Buying used CPU at first is a great idea, although I would then wait for next gen replacement of 3950X or 3900X - 3900X is better value, but 3950X is still a substantial upgrade so it can be justified. If it's still applicable that you will be building around Black Friday, you can maybe get a 3700X since the 4th gen will have launched by then - prices should drop. And after 6 months you can upgrade to the 4th gen replacement of 3950X.
 
Waiting on memory is also a good idea - memory prices are low for DDR4, but there is coronavirus and all the BLM stuff happening which can affect prices. There is always a cycle with memory generations when while it's new and yields aren't that great, it's very expensive. As the manufacturing matures, the prices go down - usually after a couple years from older gen phasing out - it becomes very cheap. That holds until the new memory generation gets to mainstream, because the volumes of the older gen go down then. There are rumors that AMD will support DDR5 in 2022 with Zen 4. Intel might do too with their new architecture (not the Lakes), but I don't follow that and have no idea what are the rumors. Going 2x8GiB for now and 2x16GiB when it's dirt cheap sounds like a great idea.
 
In regard to the SSD, Samsung is rock solid, EVO line is just fine, no need for the PRO series - sure, it's faster but it doesn't really matter that much. With the current state of architectures, it won't show in system performance. I literally cannot see any difference between my old SATA SSD and the new NVMe one. I kind of regret that I didn't go with a bigger and cheaper one 1TB is a sweet spot for dualboot IMO, for Linux only it might be a little overkill but bigger is better.
 
I think that your best bet is to hit up the forum again right before picking up the parts since the situation can change (link this thread in the topic). Also, according to PCPP, it looks like nothing is available in Ireland so someone familiar with the market might be able to find the sellers and/or better prices.

Multi threaded.

Thanks for your opinions think I'll just keep the one in and try to sell the 1070. Have a great summer

i will do the prosses and hope for the best
 

You don't need to be scared. But I would suggest using Rufus for creating media. It's fast and the interface is very easy to understand. It doesn't even need to be installed. Also, it has a Greek translation.
 
Head over to Rufus project website: https://rufus.ie/ Download Rufus in the download section. Run the executable you just downloaded. In the Rufus window, just select the device (it will only list removable devices) - the USB flash drive which you want to use. Then select the Linux Mint ISO installation image. Leave other options untouched, defaults are fine. Click Start and wait for it to finish. Your media is now ready to use, remove it and continue with the installation. When asked about 3rd party software, you should check the box - this will allow not open-source drivers which are usually better for newbies - less hassle. Since you corrupted your Windows installation, when asked how to install Mint, just choose erase disk and install Mint - this will erase the whole disk - any files that you had there will be GONE.

The recommendation still stands, newer Windows is always heavier on the resources. You said that you want to use it for web which implies that you need a secure OS, not the old unsupported Windows that won't receive security updates. If you want Windows, 7 is the best for your hardware, 10 is just too resource heavy. W7 support already ended, so Linux is better for your own security.
 
OS installations fail, that's just inevitable. Try again, you can always get back to Windows if it doesn't work. OS installation fails will not brick your laptop, there is nothing to worry about. You just cannot expect keeping your files, I want to make that clear.

Then you want a GUI.
 
 
I love Manjaro but it might be a bit too heavy depending on the DE you choose, hence why I suggested Mint or Lubuntu. Try those.

Mint is a better choice if he wants an easy to use and lightweight distro. I also have a feeling OP is going to use this as his main device, and I highly doubt CLI would suffice for him. He could always learn to use something like i3 instead of an actual DE, but that's all up to him.

Pop is certainly not the lightest distro, and I have a feeling that someone new to Linux doesn't want to install Arch, lol.
 
 
 
That being said, Linux certainly is the way to go, as is an SSD upgrade.

Let me insert myself into this thread. Let's start at the hardware level. GPU is a processor, so it has an instruction set (AMD GCN ISA manual). The instruction set defines all of the tasks that any processor is able to do. But GPU is a whole subsystem that communicates through a bus with the system, so it has some kind of protocol that encapsulates the instructions.
 
Then we have the GPU driver - this is the link between the operating system and the GPU. Operating system needs drivers for all devices in order to know how to speak to them. It defines the protocol.
 
For now, let's skip to the last part of the chain - the application (it doesn't need to be a game). The app needs to use the GPU, so if there was nothing in between, it would talk to the driver. Every GPU generation has a different architecture which may warrant changes to its instruction set. That would be very ineffective and that is why majority of developers don't do that. If the apps wanted to support every GPU architecture, then they would need to keep up with all the changes that come with every new GPU - that sounds like a lot of work, doesn't it? Insert APIs. API stands for application programming interface. It's a fixed set of conventions (an interface - function names, data formats...) that developers can use to connect software with other software. It's a bridge between the GPU driver and the application so that the application is easy enough to develop and maintain.
 
It's hard to give you an example what exactly goes on at any stage because the programming APIs are already on a lower level. If you were programming an app, you would be using a rendering library like SDL. If we are talking 3D graphics, that is even more complicated and way over my head. I hope that I cleared it up for you

Let me insert myself into this thread. Let's start at the hardware level. GPU is a processor, so it has an instruction set (AMD GCN ISA manual). The instruction set defines all of the tasks that any processor is able to do. But GPU is a whole subsystem that communicates through a bus with the system, so it has some kind of protocol that encapsulates the instructions.
 
Then we have the GPU driver - this is the link between the operating system and the GPU. Operating system needs drivers for all devices in order to know how to speak to them. It defines the protocol.
 
For now, let's skip to the last part of the chain - the application (it doesn't need to be a game). The app needs to use the GPU, so if there was nothing in between, it would talk to the driver. Every GPU generation has a different architecture which may warrant changes to its instruction set. That would be very ineffective and that is why majority of developers don't do that. If the apps wanted to support every GPU architecture, then they would need to keep up with all the changes that come with every new GPU - that sounds like a lot of work, doesn't it? Insert APIs. API stands for application programming interface. It's a fixed set of conventions (an interface - function names, data formats...) that developers can use to connect software with other software. It's a bridge between the GPU driver and the application so that the application is easy enough to develop and maintain.
 
It's hard to give you an example what exactly goes on at any stage because the programming APIs are already on a lower level. If you were programming an app, you would be using a rendering library like SDL. If we are talking 3D graphics, that is even more complicated and way over my head. I hope that I cleared it up for you

I once had all kind of problems with installing Windows... Turned out to be a faulty installation media. Or it might be your USB flashdrive or USB port. I would try to rerun Media Creation Tool an a different USB flash drive and putting it in a different port.

I once had all kind of problems with installing Windows... Turned out to be a faulty installation media. Or it might be your USB flashdrive or USB port. I would try to rerun Media Creation Tool an a different USB flash drive and putting it in a different port.

Without the error codes it's hard to tell what's exactly going on.
But I'd suspect that the install on your USB drive is faulty. I'd try to create the boot media again, maybe even with a different USB drive.
Also make sure that the drive is empty and freshly formatted

Also, I would advise against cleaning any "junk" files manually. If you need more disk space, use Windows Disk Cleaning utility. Or upgrade to Windows 10 and visit System > Storage section in the modern Settings. Windows 10 can even clean your disk automatically with Storage Sense.
 
On a side note, please, upgrade to Windows 10 (or other modern OS)... Windows 7 is out of support but I'm sure you are aware of that.

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