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    Core i5 12500
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    MSI PRO B660M-A WiFi DDR4
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    Kingston KF3600C17D4/8GX DDR4-2400 8GB x2
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    Yeston Radeon RX 6800
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    Metallic Gear Neo Air
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    Kingston SKC3000S1024G 1TB, Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB, Toshiba DT01ACA200
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    Corsair RM650x
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    DELL U3415W
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    Noctua NH-U14S
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    Logitech G502
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  1. I also tried this and noticed that the voltage still flip-floping between ~-50 mV and ~+50mV. If I set to 930 mV voltage, then ingame I got flip-flop between 893 mV to 993 mV, with most of the time it's more often stay at 993 mV and power draw is still well above 200W. I well understand that "system unstable" thing, but I just want to eliminate this problem that voltage getting flip-flopped anytime GPU usage changes. i.e. it's near 0% on typical desktop usage, but near 100% during gaming. Meaning that I'll have at ~-50 mV (unstable) during desktop usage, but ~+50 mV (actually drawing more power than expected) during gaming.
  2. I think you (and the other commenter above you) misunderstood the word 'unstable' I used here. The 'unstable' in the title refers to voltage flip-flopping between ~-50 mV and ~+50 mV from the specified voltage I set in the AMD Adrenaline. The 'unstable' here does not mean the system is unstable. I specifically wrote 'the system kinda unstable' to refer this particular occurrence (PC got frozen for a bit and AMD Adrenaline got restarted and reverted everything to default value). So if the the voltage flip-flopping between these 2 extremes (none of which is actually the voltage I specified in AMD Adrenalin), that means I have bad silicon lottery? The actual problem I wish to elminate is the voltage that flip-floping on two extremes. The solution does not necessarily have to be exactly an undervolt setting with 900 mV voltage. I can accept 910, 920, 930, heck or even 940 mV if there's such settings to be made. But the thing is all my attempts have been futile. The voltage still keep flip-flopping.
  3. So I've seen several videos/clips from YT of RX 6800 performing at stable 900 mV undervolt and draining about 160W power max. The thing is that I haven't been able to do so with the AMD Adrelanin Performance Tuning. Current setup I'm using is Core Clock Min: 2275 MHz Core Clock Max: 2375 MHz Voltage: 910 mV Memory Timing: Fast Timing VRAM Clock: 2112 MHz Zero RPM Fan: enabled Advanced Fan Control: - 30°C→35% - 50°C→45% - 65°C→60% - 75°C→80% - 85°C→100% Power Limit: 10% (maxed) During load, the Core Clock and VRAM clock were operating within the specified value (VRAM being closer to 2100 MHz and Core Clock is closer to 2350 MHz most of the time). However, the voltage can shoot up to 968 mV and Power drain can reach up to 200W. Only within small window the voltage dropped to 868 mV. So, my immediate tuning would be reduce the voltage from 910 mV to something lower. I treid 900 mV, 890 mV, 880 mV, 870 mV, 860 mV, 850 mV... and nope. 850 mV was too low of a voltage when I'm just using my PC for web-browsing/ watching YT videos. Because it pushed the actual voltage under 800 mV. Even with 910 mV setting, under low usage, the operating voltage actually dropped to 868 mV most of the time instead of staying at 910 mV all the time. So what if I tune down the core clock? I did try lowering the min and max by 15/25 MHz per step.... Well, it does lower the voltage under load (it can go to just under 916 mV under load), but at the same time, also lower the minimum voltage on low GPU utilization to 830 mV, making the system kinda unstable to the point that AMD Adrenalin got restarted and reverted the tuning back to default setting. So, I'm at loss here, what kind of tuning so that I can get a stable 900 mV under load? Or rather... my concern is actually on power draw: How do I get ~160W power draw with similar performance under stock setting by undervolting? Or maybe the showcases I saw on YT are different under different game? Or maybe that because the newer AMD Adrenaline software no longer gives option of 15% power limit (it's capped at 10% on my this v24.2.1), then I couldn't quite get the result of those old benchmark?
  4. I actually found one with net price of 393 USD after rebate. What a deal huh.
  5. Unfortunately, ASRock 6750 XT is ~407 USD in that shop. Over 100 USD from 6700 XT. Seems like I have to bump my budget to over 400 USD...
  6. My current system (built April 2022): OS: Win 10 MoBo: MSI PRO B660M WiFi DDR4 CPU: Intel i5-12500 Ram: Kingston KF3600C17D4 8GB x2 Graphics Card: Galax RTX 2060 6GB Monitor: Dell U3415W (60 Hz, 3440x1440) Since my graphics card is hitting 4 years mark May this year, I'm thinking it's a good time to look at the graphics card so I can grab them in next 1~2 months. This is my graphics card usage profile: - I mostly play indie/ mobile games with PC client, so most of the time, I don't really need high GPU performance. - However, sometimes I picked some AAA games —but not right on their release day/month/year—, but I'll pick them up 1~2 years after, with 40%~50% discount on Steam. - Not sure if I will do video editing/streaming in the future. But if I ever do, I probably want a sufficiently powerful card to handle those. I don't want to upgrade a graphics card because I find them lacking in power. Looking back over a decade ago, it seems my sweetspots has been ~300 USD graphics cards, but the performance of their kind have been increasing in price ever over the years: Dec 2011 - GTX 560Ti - ~302 USD Aug 2015 - GTX 970 - ~327 USD May 2020 - RTX 2060 - ~342 USD So this time, I am planning to allocate about 350~375 USD on budget to get something similar to my old graphics card class. However, looking at the shelves on my local computer part shop, I can only found just some okay~ish card on this price range: Here are my options that I've filtered around that range: XFX RX 6700XT 12GB Swift 309 - ~300 USD XFX RX 7600XT 16GB Swift 210 - ~352 USD ASRock RX 7600XT 16GB - ~372 USD Galax RTX 4060 8GB - ~345 USD Galax RTX 3060Ti 8GB - ~354 USD ------------------------------------------------ But if I'm willing to go 50 USD overbudget, I can find these options: Galax RTX 4060Ti 8GB - ~416 USD XFX RX 6800 16GB Swift 319 - ~425 USD PowerColor RX 7700XT 12GB - ~462 USD Now, my worries on some of these options: - NVidia graphics cards: - Is 8 GB enough when today's AAA games dropping in price in next 1~2 years and I wish to play it on my 3440x1440 screen? I've been hearing the 'ooohs' and 'aahhs' how the nvidia been so stingy with the VRAM given to their cards, but haven't really deeply looked at the arguments why it's good/not good. (don't have much time to look at those videos) - Radeon graphics cards: - I haven't been using Radeon graphics card since... 2004, I think? I'm worried that that I'm blind with the potential problems getting Radeon cards nowadays, despite their superior FPS/price rating. Just simply from FPS per price, it seems RX6800 is the winner here. But again, I haven't weighted other factors like "issues with Radeon graphics cards" like back in those days. or how this card is already at 2 years old as of now, but still pulling ahead to 4060Ti at similar price point. - Is it worth it to pay extra 40 USD for RX7700 XT? What's the deal with RDNA2 vs RDNA3? - I'm less aware about brand difference for Radeon cards, Is XFX the lower-end choice? Should I pick different brand like PowerColor or ASRock?
  7. Thanks for this. I actually tried to go for each of the manufacturer's website last night and opened the spec of the cases 1-by-1. Some of the cases I listed myself are there (like Fractal's). Though I missed MetallicGear Neo Air there. Some of those has slightly less than 165mm CPU cooler clearance though, like MB500, K500, and P350X. It seems the lightest one from the options I have is Fractal Focus G at 4.5kg. The rest listed there are at 6kg~6.5kg. The question is now whether I should let 1.5kg~2kg slide for extra room in case the cable getting messy inside.
  8. I can only purchase from my local shop in Jakarta. Importing from other countries is a big no no, for the customs will definitely apply exhorbitant fee for imported goods (unless one knows "insider", which, of course, I don't). For reference, this is the list from my usual shop. I guess budget doesn't matter a lot since lightweight case rarely go beyond ~150 USD
  9. The reason is that whenever I have to carry my case for component upgrade, I have to carry that over 10kg box over a distance of ~300m, walking, to my usual computer shop on 3rd floor. Carrying it back, though, shouldn't have problem since they have trolley to make it easy.
  10. I'm looking for a lightweight ATX cases where I can just move the components from my current case (Cooler Master CM 690 II Advance) into the new one. Other requirements (from top-most to lowest): Weight : around 4 kg, best if it can hit 3 kg External ports: at least 1 USB 3.0 port, headphones and microphone jacks Size requirement for my components: Mobo: ASRock Z170 Extreme 4 (ATX form factor) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S (165mm height) GPU : iGame GTX 970 (267mm length) PSU: Seasonic X-660 (150mm x 160mm x 86mm) I've looked a couple, but I'm out of options because some either not available from my local computer shop or there isn't enough room for my CPU Cooler: Riotoro CR500 - Not available in my local shop Coolermaster Q500L - Not enough room for CPU cooler (160mm) Thermaltake Core G3 - Not enough room for CPU cooler (160mm) Please help me, there are just thousands of cases out there, but it isn't easy to get some lightweight cases (4kg under) that: (1) can house ATX (2) not necessarily small, for I need those spaces for components
  11. Logitech G600 is usually cheaper in my place. UtechSmart Venus also could be a great alternative. Though I've never personally seen/touch one.
  12. I'm currently using G600 and thinking to grab G602 soon since my G600 left click starts getting accidental double click lately. Anyway, I'm wondering if I can simulate more than 6 buttons on the G602. Something like a "G-Shift" button on G600. Can I assign the 2 G buttons on left button as "G-Shift" instead of DPI up/down?
  13. Finally you made this sticky. It irked me so much for many months when people keep saying "2k" to refer QHD resolution.
  14. VZX

    Samsung vs Dell

    I used DELL U2414H in my last office. You won't be disappointed with the color quality DELL gives.
  15. If you want to compare size, resolution does not matter. http://www.displaywars.com/21,5-inch-16x9-vs-34-inch-21x9
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