Intelfreak

Yeah i will go for 7900X or wait until intel gets a die shrink and yes they have that crazy 3000 USD xeon cpu with 28 cores that is overclockable (a very rare breed among Xeons) and also yes that CPU is still 14 NM fabrication. I will wait bying any thing until AMD release threadripper 3 and intel release a 10 or 7 NM die shrink (rumors says that intel might drop there 10 Nm and go right to 7 NM). haha yeah. Thats the problem. I like keeping old hardware running as X58, but i also like new stuff. So by doing what i do know. I will have and old X58 rig to mess around with and keep running + a new rig that will keep me going with out the konstant fear of hardware failure.

Yeah dual channel is also a good point. X58 is triple channel and X79 to now is Quad channel. And the more channel memory also helps to keep it more relevant for longer time. Intels next platform might even be six/hexa channel or what ever the name is. I know for sure, that i will regret if i move to a I9 9900K and the little platform in the long run, cause that will simply not keep me going for nearly as long as the HEDT will keep me going.

Yeah i cut do that. Its just i miss the smell of brand spanking new hardware? and build a pc from buttom and up. My goal is to get a complete new build. I think i deserve that after being so loyal to X58.

Yeah i can see your point. I also mostly just game, but for me there are only one way and that is HEDT even throw i might not need it right now, but i tend to keep my right for years lets 6 to 10 years, so i need a platform that can be build on to in the future like cpu´s with more cores. The little platform dosent offer cpu with more than 8 cores as it is now. Also X58 has keep me going for so long because of all the features it has or had. Like 4 and 6 cores, USB 3.0 and sata 3 (the small platform back then, dit not offer that if i remember correct). HEDT simply gives me a better solution for future upgrades.

Yeah i agree. X58 is begin to struggle in the newest games as well. Metro Exodus and Far Cry New Dawn seems to push the old CPU to far so that i get a bit to many lag spikes. X58 has had a good long run, but now time has obtained even mighty X58.

Its not good with a unstable overclock. I can only say that my OC is 100 % stable. X58 has never failed me. In fact i have al ready pushed my rig to its limits before crash for CPU as well as GPU. see benchmark below here. https://imgur.com/a/KPz7JNP https://www.3dmark.com/spy/2333033 For when i move on to a new pc. That will be Intel´s next HEDT platform or AMD threadripper. 3. Just wainting an see what they will have to offer. I dont wanna buy a intel CPU now cause they are still on 14 NM. I will at least wait until they can offer a die shrink and also one time on HEDT as X58 is, there is no return for me to a little platform again.

Its alright. Not even X58 can keep going on for ever. In fact i am planning a new build for my selv as well some time next year. I really have getting every thing out of X58 i can and there are no more i can think of to do to my X58 rig either. I mean i have been on X58 for 10 years now and i have a I7 980X oc to 4.4 GHz, NVME SSD, GTX 1080 TI, 12 GB ram, a cooling setup i am fairly pleased with now, running windows 10 and so on. I think i litterly have pushed X58 as far its possible to take it. The only thing i can think of now to do is to get a EVGA SR-2 mobo and two xeons but i really can use the second CPU to much so i am not going that long on X58. So all in all, its time for me to move on as well. That dosent mean i am dropping X58. My plan is to keep my X58 rig and make a dual boot with Windows XP for retro gaming and install windows 10 and also use it as a secondary PC and for use to friends coming over.

That is a good boost from AVG. 49 FPS to AVG 87 FPS and if the CPU keeps those FPS stable, that shut give you a much better gaming exsperience and a little longer life span for your X58 rig. But next time you upgrade GPU, it is new CPU as well. I just ran unigine superposition bench my self to a comparison.

I can also reccomend ASUS P6X58D PREMIUM board. I have one my self and oc my i7 980z to 4.4 ghz for every day use and 4.745 ghz for benchmark and it is a second gen x58 board. Second gen means it has sata 3 and usb 3.0 onboard. The rampage 3 extreme is also a second gen board. The p6t v2 i here missed exsperience with.

I7 980X 4.4 ghz air cooled.

Also i can see you have a asus motherboard. That means to change uncore clock its the ulck you need to change and voltage for qpi/dram voltage if i remember correct. For stable at 3600 mhz qpi/dram typically needs around 1.35 volt give or take from there. You maybe also needs to increase core voltage to get it fully stable.

Yes as others told you, get that uncore clock up. Here is what my i7 980x score at 4.4 ghz, uncore set to 3600 mhz and ram set to 1600 mhz.

Just out of curiusety. Have you got the RTX 2060 and how does it run?

Agreed with the others. Skip that I7 920 and get a 6 core xeon and overclock the crap out of if. The 32 NM 6 cores what ever it is I7 or a xeon model overclock better than I7 920 and the 6 core models can also handle a stronger GPU. You can take these words from some one that replace a I7 920 to a I7 980X that is more or less identical to a 6 core xeon model. Its worfh it. About motherboards there are ebay and you cut also try visits your local hardware store that maybe sells used X58 boards. But look out, some times X58 boards tends to be exspensive. But if you look around there will at a time turn one up to a good price. I will reccomend you go after boards from gigabyte, EVGA or asus. I have only had exspirience with Asus and i am more than happy with the two boards i have had. Also if possible, try look out for a second gen X58 board because these has two sata 3 ports and two USB 3.0 ports. The first gen only has sata 2 and USB 2.0.

Water cooling is not so depended on airflow as air cooling is. So with water cooling you can better get away with running fans at low rpm.

Yeah for noise, but also for airflow. At low load you dont want to listen to fans noise, so thanks to pwm i cat set fan ilde rpm all between 400 and 2400 rpm for case fans while cpu fans is between 300 and 3000 rpm. While when you have high load on your system like benchmark or gaming, you need to ramp up fan speed else the air inside the case will be hot and that will increase temp on cpu, gpu and motherboard heat sink. Cause in a closed case, there are only the fans to move the air, else the air will just be trap inside and get hotter and hotter.

In your system as a open build. No i dont think pwm is needed. Its more if you put it in a closed case like my system, you dont want fans running on a fixed speed.

Yeah motherboard fan control sucks at times. Thats why i have two fan controller in my setup. The top controller is a PWM controller with software so i can make fan curves and it works great and controls case and CPU cooler fans, while the controller below takes care of the northbridge heatsink and the two fans next to GPU and is voltage controlled. Yeah i know what you mean with noise. The black 40 MM fans i have runs at around 1800-1900 RPM at the lowest and at max around 4300 RPM while the 60 MM noctua fans runs at 1400 RPM at low and at max around 3000 RPM. From what i have learned about fan control with Voltage and PWM. There is no douts that PWM is far better and more precise. So if you are gonna get a new controller, get one with PWM and that has software control. It is so much better. My next PC will be fully PWM controlled.

The heat sink on my motherboard is also pretty good, but the summers where i live can get pretty hot and temperature around 30 degree celsius or 86 degree fahrenheit is not a rare thing. And before i mounted the fans (stock northbridge heatsink is passive cooled from factory), i saw temp up to around 75 degree celsius on the northbridge heatsink, so i had to do some thing. To a comparison here in the colder winter northbridge heatsink stayes around between 40 and 50 degree celsius with fans turned of. While in the summer with fans on temp dropped 15 degree celsius at lowest fan speed. At max fan speed temp can drop 10 degree celsius more if needed.

Nice scores and temp. Looks like you got one of the good Xeons.I can push my CPU to those clock to, but it needs way higher voltage to do 4.7 GHz. Lets just say at 4.7 GHz my CPU whas on the brink to thermal throttle. To a comparison here are some of my scores. CPU only ran 4.25 GHz here, because this whas before i replaced the cpu coolers stock fans. Here with CPU at 4.7 GHz and GPU overclock to the limit just before it will crash.

I have also been running my CPU above 4.7 GHz air cooled, but i can say for sure it is also burning hot at those clocks and volts. Looks like if i go water cooling, i can push some more out of my CPU then. Good to know. Yes good idea with fan on the VRM´s and heatsink. Also because since you run water cooling, there are now airflow else around the VRM and heatsink. Also X58 chipsæt is know for being hot when it gets overclock to high clocks. I as well put some fans on the heat sink. This is my current rig and some benchmarks. https://imgur.com/a/NLahrg9 https://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

I am curious to know how hot others CPU are at full load and is it running stock or overclock overclock and cooling type used. My I7 980X runs 4.4 GHz but its not the greates overclocker as it needs 1.41 volts for that. My cooling setup is air with a Noctua NH-D14 with 3 x noctua nf-f12 ippc-3000 pwm fans and thermal grizzly kryonaut cooling paste. Its because i am thinking on if i shut move over to water cooling or keep my current cooling setup and maybe try to spank some higher clocks out of my old CPU.

About the overclock on X58. I can not agreed more. X58 is fun and more challenging to overclock cause its not just oc cores. If you wanna get the best out of X58, tweaking memory and ULCK/UNCORE is needed as well + voltage is also needed to be set right.

Go for it with a 6 core xeon and then you can afford it get a better GPU. That GTX 760 is just holding you back big time. I upgrade from a I7 920 DO reviosn OC to 4.1 GHz at the end i had it and got a I7 980X oc to 4.4 GHz and I7 980X performance the same as a Xeon on the same clock speeds. I Cut feel the upgrade. But with that said and I7 920 can handle a pretty desent GPU if it is oc to 4 GHz or more. First when i got 2 x GTX 970 in SLI that performance around a GTX 980 TI , i saw some CPU bottleneck. Now i have a GTX 1080 TI with my I7 980X and that runs fairly well. Take a look in this thread maybe. He had a I7 980X oc to 4 GHz and a GTX 780 and that GPU still bottleneck the I7 980X pretty massive. Longer down in the same thread i post how my pc performance with the same CPU but OC to 4.4 GHz and a GTX 1080 TI. There is a good amount of FPS difference. in short get a Xeon with 6 core and a good CPU cooler (these old chips needs a desent cooler if you want to get them on the fun side of 4 GHz), that shut allow for and overclock between 4.2 and up to 4.6 GHz depending on how well the cpu you get can overclock and then get a used GTX 1060, 1070/TI or GTX 1080 all depending of what you can and will pay for a GPU. But you will for sure get a much better gaming exsperince than your old GTX 760 can offer you now. And else here are some image and benchmark of my own PC with I7 920 and I7 980X to a performance comparison. I7 920 with GTX 285 3 way sli, GTX 660 TI SLI and GTX 970 SLI https://imgur.com/a/vyTFIpK https://imgur.com/a/WqD1iHK I7 980X with GTX 1080 TI. https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/10037039 https://imgur.com/a/NLahrg9 https://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg I cant say for sure about your motherboard and new GPU´s, but it sounds wired if you cant run a GTX 1060 on in. I have run GTX 970 SLI on a Asus rampage 2 extreme for 3 years with out any problems. This motherboard: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/RAMPAGE-II-EXTREME/ And now i am running a GTX 1080 TI on a Asus P6X58D Premium motherboard just fine for almost 2 years: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P6X58D_Premium/

I puched my I7 980X @ 4.4 GHz throw Cinebench R20.