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It helps on cpu temperature, but gpu not so much. At least not what i had hoped for.

I had for a long time wanted to build my dream multi purpose dual system, that could do any thing i need it to deo. Gaming, be a fast workstation and so on. So i deside to forfil my dream and challenges my self to build something diffrent than your normal every day pc. Building two fully working pc´s inside 1 case and bofh machines powered by 1 PSU alone. The result can be seen in the pictures below and some of those custom made things as well, you can´t see all the custom parts i made for this project as they are hiden away or just not visable. I choose to keep it all aircooled, as it seem cpu´s after Zen 3 from bofh intel and AMD need´s water cooling do to the high power consumption nad core clocks, they get a lot hotter than exsample Zen 3. So this is proporly my last all aircooled pc. Theme of my build is black where possible. full spec of the build. ATX pc CPU: Ryzen 9 5950X CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Chromax black with Noctua IPPC 3000 RPM fans (1 140 mm and 1 120 mm) Motherboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 Memory: G.Skill Trident Z royal silver DDR4 3600 MHz 32 GB CL 14-15-15-36 1.45 volts (4 x 8 GB running dual channel and dual rank). Samsung B-die. GPU: Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC storage: Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB for OS, Samsung 980 PRO 2 TB + Crucial MX300 2 TB sata + Crucial MX500 4 TB for games only, WD gold 14 TB HDD + WD Ultrastar 22 TB for storage OS: Windows 10 PRO 64 bits Mini-itx CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X CPU cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4a Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING Memory: G.Skill Trident Z royal gold DDR4 3600 MHz 32 GB CL 14-15-15-36 1.45 volts (2 x 16 GB running dual channel and dual rank). Samsung B-die GPU: Gigabyte RTX 4060 low profile Storage: Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB for OS, Samsung EVO 870 4 TB sata SSD for games, 2 x WD RED PRO 16 TB HDD for storage OS: Windows 10 PRO 64 bits Other stuff PSU: Phanteks Revolt X 1200W single PSU powering bofh systems Case: Phanteks Enthoo 719 black primary monitor: Asus 27" TUF VG27AQL1A Case Fans: Lian LI Unifan 120 MM black first gen fans and 1 Phanteks T30-120 fan for providing better airflow to the mini-itx system thrrow the 3Dprinted funnel 3D printed funnel to direct more airflow to the mini-itx system Fan controller: 2 x aquacomputer aquaero 6 xt with all fans connected to this and none to motherboards. All nvme ssd has a cooler with a active fan. Mouse: Logitech G903 Lightspeed Keyboard: Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum soundsystem: Logitech Z906 computer desk: some random from ikea, can´t remember model name. My desk is nothing special, but it works great for my needs. My pc is where the fun is. I post some pictures here, the rest can be found in a link at the buttom of this post, else this post will be to long. More pictures in the link below https://imgur.com/a/ad5bLBN

Warning long thread do to lots i pictures. I had for a long time wanted to build my dream multi purpose dual system, that could do any thing. Gaming, be a fast workstation and so on. So i deside to forfil my dream and challenges my self to build something diffrent than your normal every day pc. The result of that can be seen below, but first full spec of the beast, ah sorry the beast and the little runt i mean: ATX pc CPU: Ryzen 9 5950X CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Chromax black with Noctua IPPC 3000 RPM fans (1 140 mm and 1 120 mm) Motherboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 Memory: G.Skill Trident Z royal silver DDR4 3600 MHz 32 GB CL 14-15-15-36 1.45 volts (4 x 8 GB running dual channel and dual rank). Samsung B-die. GPU: Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC storage: Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB for OS, Samsung 980 PRO 2 TB + Crucial MX300 2 TB sata + Crucial MX500 4 TB for games only, WD gold 14 TB HDD + WD Ultrastar 22 TB for storage OS: Windows 10 PRO 64 bits Mini-itx CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X CPU cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4a Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING Memory: G.Skill Trident Z royal gold DDR4 3600 MHz 32 GB CL 14-15-15-36 1.45 volts (2 x 16 GB running dual channel and dual rank). Samsung B-die GPU: Gigabyte RTX 4060 low profile Storage: Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB for OS, Samsung EVO 870 4 TB sata SSD for games, 2 x WD RED PRO 16 TB HDD for storage OS: Windows 10 PRO 64 bits Other stuff PSU: Phanteks Revolt X 1200W single PSU powering bofh systems Case: Phanteks Enthoo 719 black primary monitor: Asus 27" TUF VG27AQL1A Case Fans: Lian LI Unifan 120 MM black first gen fans and 1 Phanteks T30-120 fan for providing better airflow to the mini-itx system thrrow the 3Dprinted funnel 3D printed funnel to direct more airflow to the mini-itx system Fan controller: 2 x aquacomputer aquaero 6 xt with all fans connected to this and none to motherboards. All nvme ssd has a cooler with a active fan. Mouse: Logitech G903 Lightspeed Keyboard: Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum soundsystem: Logitech Z906

I can se your point. It's just i would end up with hooking it to a separate monitor anyway and a mouse and keyboard. Laptops are really not upgradable besides storage and ram. But maybe I should consider it. It would give my son the opportunity to take it with him. Mini-itx system would not be so transportable. There are plus and cons to both of it. I think I will need to think about it some more. Also have a conversation with my son, what he wants the most. It's him that would be using it and not me. However if i go for a laptop. The AM4 motherboard and 5600 i all ready do have from another pc i upgrade would go to waste and just collect dust. I could off cause sell it, but it is not worfh that much any more. So i would rather put it to use in my sons pc.

I agreed totally that it will limit gpu upgrade. Butr there is not much choise of the matter. We do have two computer tables beside he choider. Mine and my soon. Right now we live in a 1 room apartment that normally is for 1 person. So space is tight as we are two. RTX A2000 will be a noticeble upgrade for my soon. His old machine had a GTX 1050 TI. When i move to a bigger living space, then yes i would properly let my son get a bigger case. But not before that. As i said before. I all ready have a AM4 motherboard and a 5600 cpu laying ready. I am not buying new stuff, when it comes to CPU and motherboard. A wall mounted case is a good ideer. However it is not possible do to we live on a top floor apartment. Meaning where the PC´s are, the roof are going down and that does not give much wall space. If anything, i would need to mount the case to the roof in stead. If living space alowed for it, i would apselutely chose that off cause. I know A2000 is pricey. I plan to get one used first of all. I know a person that has a computer store and people comes in for upgrades and right now he has a A2000 laying around to a good price. Do to living space, bigger case is as told not an option until we can move in to something bigger.

Space confined. In short. We live in a small apartment for now after a divorce. Until I have my life and savings up again, we have to live with lesser means and that means we do not have enough space for a full size desktop pc. It's either a laptop or mini-itx system for now. Laptop is not upgradable, so it will have a shorter lifespan in my household that a desktop that can be upgraded over time. So a small itx system is what we go for. I was a Intel fan, but that's a long time ago. Dating back to X58 times. My own pc is zen 3 powered as well. Intels cpu before 12 gen was really not that impressive, specially rocket lake disappointed me, so I chose to go amd and frankly it has worked fine. A few hassels have come to me, but bios update fixed the problems I had early on.

I'm building a small mini-itx gaming pc for my son, as his old one has chosen to commit suicide and is not worth saving. I'm building it a small case, so small gpu is needed. Only low profile cards will fit and the psu dosent have additional 6 or 8 pin connections. So it needs to be slot powered and small. After doing research I've been looking for the most powerful lp gpu available and as far I can see, the rtx a2000 is the best of these small slot powered gpu's. But before purchasing it, I wanted to ask if anyone knows about of a better gpu? It will be paired with a AM4 B550 mini-itx board and amd ryzen 5 5600 none X i all ready have in stock. That should make a great little gamer for my son with out being a power hog.

For gaming, forget everything about dual gpu setup or sli/crossfire. It's dead and has been for the last 6 years since nvidia launched there pascal gpu like gtx 1080 TI. No more modern games support it or if they do, the optimization is bad. Only for benchmark sli is still useful. For 3d design and rendering, I am not sure. This might support example Cuda core acceleration on more than one card, but I don't know for sure. But for gaming, you are either better of just keep you current gpu as a single card or sell it and buy a rtx 4080/4090 or one of the new amd card when they launch for sale.

Here is my newly upgradet dual system. So it is 5600X/RTX A2000 and 5950X/RTX 4090.

Here are my scores from my newly upgradet dual system. New GPU´s this year. So its 5950X/RTX 4090 and 5600X/RTX A2000. Side notes: 5600X PBO is on but with custom max wattage do to limited cooling. 5950X cpu scores bad do to 3dmark scales very poorly with so many cores/threads. Cpu usage is only 60-70 procent. So it´s leave some additional cpu performance on the table. Hence why it dosent scores much higher than a 5900X. 5600X/A2000 5950X/RTX 4090

5600X will keep you going for some time. But 6 cores is not as future prof as 8 cores. But when or if you get a rtx 4090. 5600X will be a cpu bottleneck at times. This comes from one with a Ryzen 9 5950X and a rtx 4090. In some cases my 5950X is actually the bottleneck. So with 4090 you might want to consider a upgrade to get the full potential of 4090. But the solution for new cpu doesn't have to be that expensive. Look 5800X3D. That will work on am4 boards and is just around as fast as a new Zen 4 cpu in games. This cpu is a little gem for us am4 people. Just my advice. Keep 5600X amd when you get 4090. You might want to consider 5800X3d. That cpu would better could feed 4090. Specially if you are a high fps gamer.

I Will say with aircooled cards, it's a no. To heavy and to thick. Water cooled cards can maybe go as they are dual slot and not as heavy.

This build has been a year on it way to finish. Mostly because i could not get the GPU´s i wanted. But it is now finnish and ready to be shown. In short: i wanted to build my aircooled dream pc. So that´s what i dit. Spec is as follow. System 1 (ATX) CPU: Ryzen 9 5950X CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15 chromax black Motherboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 Ram: G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL SILVER 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.45 volt GPU: Asus RTX 4090 TUF OC Storage: Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB and a 2 TB + WD GOLD 14 TB and WD RED 8 TB HDD System 2 (Mini-ATX) CPU: 5600X CPU cooling: Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING Ram: G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 1.45 volt GPU: RTX A2000 Storage: Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB, Crucial MX300 2 TB sata SSD, WD RED PRO 16 TB HDD, WD RED 4 TB HDD other spec: Case: Phanteks Enthoo 719 black Case fans: Lian LI SL 120 black PSU: Phanteks Revolt X 1200 watt

I have a 5950X, x570 dark hero, win 10 system. I have had one problem with my board. It made bsod. I fixed it with a bios update. Else my board has been troubled free. What bios version does you have on it now, if older. I would try a bios upgrade before doing much else. A new bios can fix instability and get better memory support and things like that.

In my system i have 2 seperate fan controllers (2 x ,Aquacomputer Aquaero 6 XT controller) so one for each system and i have spilt fans up so one system controls some of the fans and the other system the rest of the fans. So there are all ways airflow, but not all fans are spinning when only 1 system is on.

Since the cpu may 8 cores, but lags hyper threading means the cpu only has 8 threads amd not 16. I would say it's worth a upgrade. Specially if you play the lastes triple a titles. These games perform the best with more than 8 threads. But before considering a 12 Gen system. It might be worth waiting a few more months. Since Intel is not so long away launching there 13 Gen CPU's and the same goes for AMD zen 4. So I would wait to get the latest and greatest. But it's up to you to decide if you want to wait or buy something now.

For purely gaming. I vote for 5800X3D as well. Much more power efficient and the 3d-cashe do a impressive boost for gaming performance. How ever in many other task than gaming, 5800X3D is slower that 5800X do to lower clock speed. 5950X is way overkill for purely gaming and you are better of paying more for the 3d-cashe 5800X3D has. If you do much work as well, 5950X makes sense. But also have in mind AMD is soon to release Zen 4 and Intel raptor lake 13 gen CPU's. It might be worth waiting for that, cause either amd and Intel older cpu becomes cheaper or you can get the newest tech. Just a little advice.

Don't be afraid of higher voltage. X58 cpu can tale quite a beating. I abuse a I7 920 oc up to 4.4 ghz for 8 years and a I7 980x with 4.4 ghz oc at 1.43 volts and for benchmark up 1.55 volts amd 4.75 ghz and still worked perfect 4 years later I sold it. So 1.4 volts is not something to be concerned about. In fact for I7 920 Intel stated up to 1.4 volts is safe. Above that is above spec throw. What can kill a X58 cpu if there are to much voltage to memory and shut not exceed 1.65 volts. Else it can damage the memory controller for the cpu, at least for the 45 nm part like I7 920. You can see benchmark and clocks of my old X58 here. But also to show i dit not babysit my CPU's. https://imgur.io/a/WqD1iHK https://imgur.io/a/uHjbbMg

Yes as stated. 12900K will get hotter do to higher clock, voltage but also higher alowed power draw. So yes, it will naturally run hotter and requires better cooling than 12900.

My advice would be to wait for the possible rumored 3d model like the 5800X3D. Rumors saying a 5600X3D might come as well. Either way I would wait a few months more. Cause when the maybe 3d models arive and off cause zen 4. I think there will be a good chance of the none 3d models will get a price cut and also give you a chance for getting a cheaper used cpu. As some people will ditch there 5600X and 5800X for a 3d model or zen 4. There are all ways some people that just want the newest stuff amd that could benefit you, if you can wait with upgrade. Else I would say a 5600X will keep you going for a while. However if you are planning to have your current setup for many years to come. I would suggest considering a 8 core cpu for better future profing. As times go on, games will need more cores to run well. There are also a 5600 none x that are a but cheaper. But seing the price difference over the 5600X and clock differences. Its hardly worth saving a few bucks over 5600X and get 5600. Stay away from 5500 I will say. It's a apu cpu with built-in gpu disabled and only haft the cashe of 5600X meaning a significant reduction of gaming performance and only pcie gen 3 support.

Yeah I think you are right. But the problem is that if i run all fans at the same time. I can only control all fans with one system d that is not optimal either. Besides as it is now, it runs fine amd temperatures are well with in limits.

You are not the only one pointing that out. I have made a solution for that. There are two fan controllers. One for each system. The side fans is running when the mini-ATX system is running. If ATX system is running, they do not run. Are bofh system running, the side fans are connected so that i can turn them of completely, so they do not discrupt airflow from the front intake fans that only runs when ATX is turned on. I have dedicated fans to each of system and fan contoller. So not all fans are running when only one system is running and when bofh runs, i can turn of fans that are not needed or discrupt airflow as the side exhaust fans does when front intake is running.

I dit try to get a desent cable management and plan where to put components like HDD and fan controllers. There are hours of research put in to it as well to find the right parts and build time. This is not your avarage build i think i can say for sure. But thanks i nice to know i succeded my goal to get i to look nice. I will be using the ATX system mainly for workstation/heavy load for my work (I do work from home at times and need some cpu power for that) and heavy gaming. Mini-ATX is for use as a backup system if the main system fails as Downtown is a no no do to my work. Else mini-ITX is used for as a more power friendly every day use pc and just to use when ATX system is working and to stream to my tv. Also used for light gaming while i wait for ATX to finish work and cant game on that and a second pc when friends are over, so we can play games with out they have to take there own pc with them. I was more a Intel man. But do to there constantly 14 NM++++++ bull crap and even Rocket lake failed to impress and used a butt load of power and alder lake might be faster in some games but use more power. I got feed up with Intel and Since AMD zen got faster and faster + more cores and power efficient. I desided to give AMD a chance and i hornestly don´t regret it.

Here is my build. It´s a dual system in 1 case based on AMD Zen 3. I considered what ever to go air or watercooling. But in the end desidet to go for air. So it´s all aircooled. Also sorry the blurry pictures, my phone sucks. System 1 (ATX) spec: CPU: Ryzen 9 5950X (if a 5950X3D ever comes out, i considering to shift to that) CPU Cooling: Noctua NH-D15 with a 140 MM and a 120 MM Noctua IPPC 3000 RPM fans and Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme. Mohterboard: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570 Ram: G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL SILVER 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 Samsubng B-DIE GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 ULTRA GAMING 10 GB (might replace it with RTX 4080) Storage: Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB and a 2 TB + WD Gold Enterprise-Class HDD 14 TB System 2 (Mini-ATX) CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X CPU cooling: Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 (replaced the stock brown fan with a ditto chromax black fan) Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme paste Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING Ram: G.SKILL TRIDENT Z ROYAL GOLD 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) 3600 MHz CL14-15-15-35 Samsubng B-DIE GPU: ASUS GTX 1650 with Low Profile cooler. Storage: Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB + Crucial MX300 2 TB sata SSD + WD RED 4 TB HDD (sata SSD and HDD is left overs from my old system) adicional spec: PSU: Phanteks Revolt X 1200W (this drives bofh systems) Case: Phanteks Enthoo 719/Luxe 2 BLACK Case fans: lian li sl120 black (fan speed are controlled to fan controllers, while RGB are connected to the original controller box) Fan controller: 2 x Aquacomputer Aquaero 6 XT (all fans are connected to these controller and no one to motherboard. That means cpu cooler fans and case fans) Nvme SSD cooler: 3 x ICYBOX IB-M2HSF-703 with fan. So here are my system in pictures and again sorry the blurry image. So this is my current build and going directly from a X58 system to this.