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This thread went about as well as i thought it would.
 
"cryoto miners are destroying the planet by using so much electricity for nothing"
*crypto miners buy a decommissioned renewable energy power plant to power their GPUs cleanly*
"How dare they!!!!"
 
This tells me it's never been about how much electricity they use and what the effect on the environment is. it's always  been about either the GPU stock or just some underlying hate for miners for some other reason.

Part of if is just "crypto-scare" ;

So IT IS renewables (in one instance). Also, the factory has an exclusive access to that hydro dam, it's possible that if the factory closed then the hydro damn would've too and so it's not electricity that could be used elsewhere, lots of old factories had their own power plant (though they would usually sell what they didn't use to the main grid, so it's possible that this plant could've turned into an electricity producer instead of supplying a mining farm, but the article doesn't give any details because crypto bashing drives a lot more clics, so it's speculation either way).
 
Still IMO it would've been better to revamp that hydro plant and connect it to the main grid instead of exclusively supplying that factory ! And I agree that burning gas and/or coal to supply a mining farm is top idiotic stuff !

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That is, IMO, a great deal !
 
It includes 2 120mm fans, I have the older P400S version and the fans were loud, not sure if they changed in the last 3 years, but regardless, if it was me, with the savings I would jump on the RGB fans I posted earlier ( https://linustechtips.com/topic/1358028-canada-amazon-pccooler-120mm-rgb-pwm-fans-3-pack-33-50-17-coupon-5-pack-52-35-coupon/ )
 
 
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_1937&item_id=141105
 

* thread cleaned *
 
If you're unable, or unwilling to help, then there's no need to reply.

Aight boys, let's wrap it up
Hydro power is now evil as well

I think you missed the part where like 80% of the article on Curbed was about the company Core Scientific, which had bought a hydroelectric dam.
There are others that may have bought some coal power plant or some other power plants, but the news piece this article is about is a company buying a hydroelectric dam, which is one of the greener alternatives we got. Not sure why you say the article is misleading.
 
 
Ehm... Yes you do? It depends on what power plant you buy. My housing cooperative recently bought stakes in a solar farm. Of course we had other reasons for buying into that, but clean energy was definingly one of the big factors. Are you seriously going to suggest that anyone buying any type of power plant is not doing it to be "clean"?
 
 
Am I understanding you currently. You're saying that in your mind, solar panels and windmills are the only clean energy sources? You don't count hydro as clean and people/companies/countries that don't invest in either solar or wind are not doing so to be clean, but for other reasons?
If that's what you think then I think you are rather ignorant about the challenges solar and wind might have in some geographical locations. I just said my housing cooperative bought stakes in a solar power plant. Truth be told, I think it was a terrible idea to build it in the first place. Sweden is notoriously bad for solar power because we barely have any sunlight for half the year. We have very little wind as well outside of a few areas around the coast, so wind power is quite inefficient as well. That's why we rely so much on hydro power. Because it's (outside of nuclear) pretty much the only alternative we got (except the far worse alternatives like coal).
 
I don't know where this hydro power plant is located, but I think it's a very simplistic and naive view of things to just point at anyone not building solar or hydro and say "you're doing it wrong". Especially if we start factoring in the facts that for example this hydro power plant already exists and therefore has a much smaller impact to get working again, compared to let's say getting a massive piece of land, possibly needing to do earthwork on it like excavation and embarkment, install the power grid to the location, manufacture and transport all the solar panels, and the list goes on.

Canada got the good deals recently.

a Mbox audio interface.


10USD from a college surplus

Good deal on a good case.
 
 

The Phanteks P400A (front mesh panel, tempered glass side panel, and a fan controller) is on sale at Canada Computers for $70 CAD (around $55 USD) !!!!
 
That is, IMO, a great deal !
 
It includes 2 120mm fans, I have the older P400S version and the fans were loud, not sure if they changed in the last 3 years, but regardless, if it was me, with the savings I would jump on the RGB fans I posted earlier ( https://linustechtips.com/topic/1358028-canada-amazon-pccooler-120mm-rgb-pwm-fans-3-pack-33-50-17-coupon-5-pack-52-35-coupon/ )
 
 
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_1937&item_id=141105
 

Very good deal IMO. Cheaper than the P300A, which has worse build quality and one less fan.

new appointment for my 2nd dose ; tomorrow @ 6pm !
 
I'll finally have my full 5G coverage ! 😄

You're the one that brought up the topic. Next time if you're not interested in discussing related subjects, don't bring them up. 🤷‍♂️

You're the one that brought up the topic. Next time if you're not interested in discussing related subjects, don't bring them up. 🤷‍♂️

Interesting.
I still hate RGB fans though. Not because of what they produce, but because of the wiring involved. The only one's I'd ever consider are the LianLi ones.

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The 5 pack is $52 ($87 - $35 coupon) ;
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Bitwit review of those fans back in 2019 ;
 
3 Pack ;

 
 
5 pack ;

What you think they would stop mining if they didn't get their own hydro power plant? No they would simply be on the normal grid which is most likely not 100% renewable so this sure beats the alternative. 

Just saying, this is factually incorrect. At least some solar panels are being recycled right now, and that's only poised to increase.
 
There's one such blog post about the processes used to recycle solar panels:
https://www.greenmatch.co.uk/blog/2017/10/the-opportunities-of-solar-panel-recycling
 
It also includes breakdowns as to how much of the physical materials can be reused. In most cases, it's a significant portion of the materials.
Also electric cars are definitely the opposite of terrible. Old EV Batteries aren't just buried.
 
Hell, the battery has a *LONG* life left in it after it "dies" (meaning it's no longer suitable to power a car). Most of the time they're used as stationary battery storage for power plants to store excess power, or to store solar/wind power for use later.
 
Another common use is for things like the Tesla Power Wall.

Part of if is just "crypto-scare" ;

So IT IS renewables (in one instance). Also, the factory has an exclusive access to that hydro dam, it's possible that if the factory closed then the hydro damn would've too and so it's not electricity that could be used elsewhere, lots of old factories had their own power plant (though they would usually sell what they didn't use to the main grid, so it's possible that this plant could've turned into an electricity producer instead of supplying a mining farm, but the article doesn't give any details because crypto bashing drives a lot more clics, so it's speculation either way).
 
Still IMO it would've been better to revamp that hydro plant and connect it to the main grid instead of exclusively supplying that factory ! And I agree that burning gas and/or coal to supply a mining farm is top idiotic stuff !

Yes but hydro dams are some of the cleanest alternatives we got.
All power sources have some drawback. Solar panels create "heat islands" which disturbs things like the wildlife nearby, they take up a lot of space which means installation might result in habitat loss and other ecological damage. Manufacturing has its own issues (like costing a lot and doing damage), and they need to be replaced.
 
Wind creates a lot of noise pollution which disturbs wildlife, requires a ton of area as well which is not available everywhere.
 
Hydro dams, like you said, can affect wildlife where they are installed although that (like solar panels) depends on where they are installed. 
 
 
We have to pick our battles. Personally, I'd love for nuclear power to become more popular and attract more investments and research, but if I can't get that then I'll be happier with hydro than let's say coal.
 
 
  
The power plant the article talks about is old and abandoned. This is not some cryptominer "taking" renewable energy from some other industry.
The result of these news is that we have MORE renewable energy in the world.

Nowhere in the article does it say it is fossil fuel that are being used. 
In fact, the original source (Curbed) that the futurism article links to clearly states that they bought a hydroelectric dam.
 
This is just another example of the LTT forum having no idea what they are talking about and start seething with anger as soon as cryptocurrencies gets mentioned.
If you actually care about the environment like you seem to imply you do, then you should welcome these news with open arms. This is literally an old abandoned environmentally friendly power plan being powered on again to power cryptomining, rather than cryptomining being powered by other, dirtier power sources.
These are good news for the environment. More renewable energy using infrastructure that has just been sitting there doing nothing.
At least this particular news article.
 
Not sure why you put "job" in quotes. It is their job, whether you like it or not.

Part of if is just "crypto-scare" ;

So IT IS renewables (in one instance). Also, the factory has an exclusive access to that hydro dam, it's possible that if the factory closed then the hydro damn would've too and so it's not electricity that could be used elsewhere, lots of old factories had their own power plant (though they would usually sell what they didn't use to the main grid, so it's possible that this plant could've turned into an electricity producer instead of supplying a mining farm, but the article doesn't give any details because crypto bashing drives a lot more clics, so it's speculation either way).
 
Still IMO it would've been better to revamp that hydro plant and connect it to the main grid instead of exclusively supplying that factory ! And I agree that burning gas and/or coal to supply a mining farm is top idiotic stuff !

Part of if is just "crypto-scare" ;

So IT IS renewables (in one instance). Also, the factory has an exclusive access to that hydro dam, it's possible that if the factory closed then the hydro damn would've too and so it's not electricity that could be used elsewhere, lots of old factories had their own power plant (though they would usually sell what they didn't use to the main grid, so it's possible that this plant could've turned into an electricity producer instead of supplying a mining farm, but the article doesn't give any details because crypto bashing drives a lot more clics, so it's speculation either way).
 
Still IMO it would've been better to revamp that hydro plant and connect it to the main grid instead of exclusively supplying that factory ! And I agree that burning gas and/or coal to supply a mining farm is top idiotic stuff !

Oh cool. More fossil fuel power plants being powered back on just for the sake of mining virtual currency that people decided to attribute value to. Just what the world needed.

The Pccooler 3 pack 120mm Fan Moonlight Series PC-3M120 RGB LED Computer Case Fan (includes RGB controller) is on sale + has a $17 coupon on Amazon right now.
 
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07J5RSF37/
 
The 5 pack is $52 ($87 - $35 coupon) ;
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07QFX1RV1/
 
Bitwit review of those fans back in 2019 ;
 
3 Pack ;

 
 
5 pack ;