ZeGhostrider

Current 8700K prices are high. 100-150€ more than 1800X, is it still worth that much more? Or should I wait a bit (new year)? 8700K or Intel in general is also noticeably better in GTA V, which is one of the games that will be played+streamed. Games will be GTA V, R6 Siege, GR Wildlands, PUBG, Project Cars 2. Should have added that in OP. Edited link. Hope it works now. Yes I already have the displays, also bought recently. 1440p Panel has Gsync 1080p one does not. Freesync is great but Vega is not enough from what I have seen.

I have been using a secondary system in my living room for gaming (1080p/60hz) (4690k + 280X), which has served me well. Changing to 1440p & 144hz+ recently and my fiancee wanting to stream meant I had to upgrade, GPU prices were the main thing stopping me from upgrading for couple of months now. Seeing as how even RAM prices went to a ridiculous amount, I decided not to wait anymore. Main purpose of this System is going to be 1440p 144hz gaming AND streaming 1080p 60hz over twitch. I am personally unfamiliar how streaming works and what kind of system would be the best. So I have been youtubing the crap out of reviews and such, in the end I came up with 4 or possible 5 solutions. Monitors = Dell S2417DG 1440p 144hz + Samsung M6379 1080p - already have these displays Case = beQuiet Dark Base 700 - 160€ PSU = Seasonic X Series 1050W 80+Gold Modular - already have this PSU Memory = 16GB DDR4 Trident Z RGB 3600Mhz CL16 - already have this RAM kit Storage = 240GB M.2 (for OS) + 500GB SSD (for some Games) + 4TB HDD ~ 400€ OS = Windows 10 Home 64bit - 80€ Now those parts I already decided on, my problem begins here: CPU Cooling Mainboard GPU 1st = AMD R5 1600 - 190€ Stock Cooler Asus ROG B350-F Gaming - 110€ GTX 1080ti Palit Super Jetstream - 785€ 2nd = Intel i5 8400 - 200€ (currently not in stock) beQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 - 70€ Asus ROG Z370-F Gaming - 200€ GTX 1080ti Palit Super Jetstream - 785€ 3rd = AMD R7 1700X/1800X - 320€/350€ beQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 or Silent Loop 360 - 70€/140€ Asus ROG X370-F Gaming - 180€ GTX 1080ti Palit Super Jetstream - 785€ 4th = Intel i7 8700K - 400€ (currently not in stock) beQuiet Silent Loop 360 - 140€ Asus ROG Z370-F Gaming - 200€ GTX 1080ti Palit Super Jetstream - 785€ Now the last one relies on some speculation videos and whatnot so it's kind of a unicorn and more of a wishlist 5th= AMD R7 (Pinnacle Ridge) - 400€ beQuiet Silent Loop 360 - 140€ Asus ROG X470-F Gaming - 200€ GTX 1080ti Palit Super Jetstream - 785€ Zen refresh is supposedly coming out early next year, which is not far off. Some say it will clock significantly higher than Summit Ridge. I would be willing to wait if that would make a lot more sense than getting any other setup above. Speaking of which, Coffee Lake is not easy to get for the time being, either I pay 50-100€ extra now or wait until more units arrive. Current AMD R7 or R5 is not as potent for high refresh gaming as Intel, which is the only thing about it that worries me. I decided on the 1080ti, since Vega looks meh for 1440p 144hz and regular 1080 is not quite enough either and frankly too close to the 1070ti. I listed the Palit Super Jetstream because from what I have seen it is the best price/performance. I heard bad things about Zotac and Gigabyte, MSI I don't like personally and the Strix is at least 100€ more. EVGA is a bit more expensive 30-70€ and is another option. If you read all the way here I'd like to hear your thoughts. Which setup would suit me best? Do you have experience, good or bad with Palit and recommend the 1080ti? Would the R5 or i5 System be enough to game and stream? Should I wait for Coffee Lake or Ryzen Refresh? WTF is up with RAM prices? You know a shady guy called "Steve" that can get me Coffelake for a good price? Are you also bankrupt because of the latest Steam sale? Country is Germany and budget is around 2000€ PCpartpicker link if needed. https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/GwWB8K PS: my head hurts send help

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Depends on which is cheaper for you, 1080Ti and Vega release should/might drop prices. If money is no issue why not 1080Ti SLI? I use 1080 SLI @ 4k, depends on which games you play. I can tell GTA V/Online, Witcher 3, HITMAN 2016,Rise of the Tomb Raider, Forza Horizon 3 (slightly bad scalling might just be me) run all fine. Only game I personally had problems was Batman Arkham Knight, but that game was always broken, so probably not a SLI issue. Also I run stock clocks in GTA because GTA is stupid in that regard ,even my GTX 1060 OC doesn't work (again no SLI issue). btw. don't go cheap on the 4k Monitor, I did and now I regret it, get G-sync.

It's 80€ new, or 40-50€ used (ebay,Amazon) in Germany, if that helps.

Dang, I didn't know, disregard my comment then @OP. Why 32GB? Just because, no particular reason

I really don't care for all this "not good for gaminglalala", just ordered a R7 1700. Reviews are all over the place mixed with rumors of Intel bribing, going to see for myself if Ryzen is any good or not. (if you have the means I recommend you doing the same) IF it performs anywhere near my 5820K, I'll keep it mainly to support AMD. And IF Vega manages to give me slightly more than GTX 1080 level of performance, I will finally have a proper AMD build. But honestly I STILL mostly use my old i5 4690K + 280X (console substitude build) in my living room to game anyway, it's still very capable.

Looks solid for gaming, I would personally go for 32GB Ram Quadchannel and a bigger Monitor, but these would just be minor details and only a bit more to my own preference. 16GB Ram is good enough and 165hz Monitor is better than my old 144hz anyway, so have fun.

I think I fixed it finally. Replying in case somebody has a similar problem. clean windows install again, downloaded and installed old 368.81 driver from Guru3D, had suspicions about Gigabytes OC software "XTREME GAMING ENGINE" causing problems, so did not install that this time, only Afterburner for OC, previous driver crash in games after 10-15 minutes even with stock clock speed was no longer present, went a bit easy on the OC at first +125Mhz core; +250Mhz memory + custom fan curve, 8 hours of Aida64 no problems, 4 hours GTA V no problems, running Witcher atm. also no problems so far. Not 100% sure if the main problem was the xtreme gaming engine or newer Nvidia drivers being messy, or a bit of both.

I now tried drivers from June to all the way back January for good measure (all proper clean install with DDU) and instead of GTA V I ran The Crew, lasted for almost 20 minutes and same error message. Running stock speeds atm. Unless anybody has more ideas I will RMA this card the next day. This is seriously dissapointing. A 1070 would be waste of power for this build and I didn't get a RX480 because the very low TDP of the 1060 was just too good to ignore (this PC is going to run 24/7) What's even worse is that there are not many GTX 1060s in stock where I buy my Hardware from, only alternative atm. is a Gainward 1060 Phoenix. Never had a Gainward card before, but from a friend who has a Gainward (non Phoenix) 1070 I heard very bad things.

Will do and report back thanks. Wow, I hope it gets resolved for you aswell, it's quite dissapointing this way.

I already did that before removing the pervious GPU, ran DDU, removed old GPU, installed new, booted up installed Nvidia drivers. Just to be 100% I did a clean windows install today, problem still exists. Windows, Nvidia drivers and the games are all up to date.

My Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce arrived yesterday (finally) and I ran into some problems. First the specs, this is my casual gaming 1080p@60FPS secondary PC in my living room. Mainboard: Gigabyte Z97P-D3 CPU: Intel I5 4690K @ 4,8Ghz; 1,35V; (bequiet Shadow Rock 2) RAM: 16GB G.Skill Ares DDR3 @1600Mhz CL10 Storage: 1TB HDD + 128 GB SSD GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce [Factory Overlocked 1582Mhz Core/1797 Boost/2000Mhz (8000Mhz GDDR5) Memory] Monitor: LG somethingsomething 1080p/60hz IPS monitor - Displayport 1.2 PSU: Seasonic X series 1050W 80+Gold (this is from my main PC only used here for testing) Windows 10 Home Nvidia drivers 372,54 Now to the problem: This is my first Gigabyte GPU so I downloaded their own OC software (XTREME GAMING ENGINE) which for some reason would not regocnize the GPU at first and when I fixed that it wouldn't get into OC mode. So I went back to Afterburner and did some mild OC +100Mhz on core and +300Mhz on memory + custom fancourse ofc. 1 hour MSI Kombustor = no problems temps 67°C max. Upped OC +200Mhz on core +500Mhz memory again 1 hour Kombustor no problems temps reaching 72°C max. I was happy with that for now and ran GTA V, about 15 minutes driving around aimlessly I got a message "nvidia driver has stopped responding and has recovered". Never mind I ran Witcher 3 about 5 minutes into the game same error message. Dialed OC to +160Mhz/+480Mhz and ran Intel Stress test 1 hour, again no problem Back to GTA V after 10-15 minutes again same error message, same with Witcher 3, Shadow of Mordor or Crysis 3. Reverted back to factory clocks and the error message still persists when gaming. Now I ran Aida64 for 2 hours and no such problem. What should I do? Anybody experience anything of the sort with other GTX 10 series cards? Should I RMA the card or is this just a driver issue?

funny thought, he might just be trolling

awesome I just ordered a MSI 390, it is supposed to be to most quiet and still have some OC potential. I can tell you if that's true in a week or so.