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The 3600mhz kit will perform better. Not only is it clocked higher, it also has better timings. That said, if you need 32GB, go for the 32GB.

8 pin CPU power connector will be enough. The extra 4 pin is if you're doing liquid nitrogen or some jazz like that. Basically it's probably a 5 cent upgrade for the manufacturer.

I'm guessing, due to it's semi-modular design. They for some reason did not include the 24 pin connector in the spreadsheet, so the system checking for compatibility cannot find it. Due it being fixed to the PSU unit. Behold. The CPU power pin and the motherboard power pin cannot be detached.

Newegg added G.skill Neo 32GB kit. 3600mhz, CL14-15-15-35 1.40 volt for 540 dollars. I fear to even imagine how much the 3800mhz, 14-16-16-36 1.5 volt is gonna cost.

If you're in the High End desktop segment. Your latest and greatest from Intel is the 18 core 9980XE, at an MSRP of 1700USD. If you want to go above this, you're in the server segment on the LGA3647 socket, with the Xeon W-3175X 28 core option for about 3000USD MSRP. The 9980 support 128GB, 2666mhz memory. The Xeon supports 512GB 2666mhz memory. You can likely clock it higher, though not much higher if you max out the memory capacity. Alternatively, you can get a 32 core 2990WX from AMD for about 1800 USD. Supporting 128GB memory at 2966MHZ. Note that the 2990WX consist of two CPUs on the same die. In certain applications, this is not a problem and Intel is left in a ditch. In other applications, the latency between the CPUs can cause somewhat reduced performance. If 32 cores is not enough, AMD does offer the 7742 Epyc 64 core for about 7500USD. If your applications can even make use of 64 cores, this is as good as it gets right now unless you're buying on behalf of Google, Facebook or other giant companies. The CPU supports up to 4TB memory, at 3200mhz. But i don't think there are motherboards supporting this memory capacity AND frequency. You can also take a look at the 16 core AMD 3950x launching in september for about 750USD. I got the 12 core variant myself and i'm very happy with it, even though you seem to need the cores much more than i do. It supports 3200mhz memory, up to 128GB i believe. Basically, Intel attempted an extremely ambitious jump from 14nm to 10nm all the way back in 2014. Slated for release in 2016/2017. As of 2019, they have yet to deliver and the rumor mill has it that even after 2-3 years of delays they are not close to full 10nm production. What they have produced have been lower power mobile chips, at best, performing marginally better than their 14nm CPUs. At best they will lose some market through 2019 and 2020. At worst, they won't be competitive in the extremely lucrative server segment for several years. Resulting in a downward spiral of revenue loss and mounting debt affecting them for the better part of a decade to come. This doom-saying have yet to materialize however, even though AMD started competing again in 2017. Intel still increased it's yearly revenue in 2017 and 2018.

I've found allot of the screws used to be quite cheap, especially fan screws tend to get worn out very easily. Rarely will you come across high quality screws, the only ones i can think of at the moment is the screws to my side panel, doubt i could damage those by hand cranking.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=639584818 The X570 motherboards are definitely better suited for the 12 and 16 core options. I mean look at it like this. The high end motherboards on the X470 platform were designed for the 8 core 16 thread 2700x maximum. There was no options higher than this, thus you have a situation where only two Asus motherboards in the X470 lineup able to comfortably handle 200 amps on the CPU. But why not? Because it's definitely not needed, not for 8 core, and 8 core was max. With the 3000 series, AMD is doubling the core count. Previously, the highest quality power stage was the IR3555 60A on the X470 Crosshair VII Hero. Now, the lowest quality power stage is a SIC639 50A on the X570-P, but even then, there are two power stages per phase. The entry level X570-P can in fact handle the 3950x, comfortably. There is less comfort with overclocking compared to the most expensive X470 board, but it can handle it. saying X570 only has PCI-E 4.0 is flat out wrong. Between MSI, Asus, Asrock and Gigabyte. There are only 3 motherboards i would absolutely not put a 3950x on. On the X470 platform, it's almost reversed, in that there are only a handful of boards that can handle a 3950x. By the way, which Strix X470? The ATX sized F-Gaming is significantly better than the mITX I-gaming? The X470-pro is a good option as well for a 3700x. TLDR: Because 3900x and 3950x exist. Almost all X570 motherboards comfortably supports them. Because 3900x and 3950x did not exist in 2018, few X470 boards comfortably supports them and only a couple have comfortable overclocking headroom.

If it comes, it's gonna be mad expensive. Better to run one if their 3200 or 3600 kits at 1.45 volt 3800mhz, then tighten the timings.

Yeah thats about what i got with stock settings.

Custom fan settings I have my 3900x in a Corsair 500D, which is a mediocre case when it comes to thermals but i didn't get it for the thermal performance. I use a Corsair H150i with 6*120mm fans. With another 120mm fan in the back and two 140mm fans at the top of the case. My PSU draws power from the case, though i can only do this because my PSU is total overkill for my system. At 4.3GHZ all core, 1.4125 volt. Max fan speed, about 1750rpm on the 120mm fans and about 1400rpm on the 140mm fans. My CPU sits at around 78-80 degrees C. For workloads requiring fewer cores, such as gaming. I get away with the ''quiet'' setting. Lowering fan RPM to about 700, barely audible.

''The four memory sockets are divided into two channels and each channel has two memory sockets as following: Channel A: DDR4_2, DDR4_4'' Channel B: DDR4_1, DDR4_3 http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_b450-aorus-pro-wifi_1002_e_190528.pdf So 1+3 OR 2+4 OR 1+2+3+4

Consult your motherboard manual

If you're unsure, 3200mhz is the fastest officially supported. If you want best performance, 3800mhz at the tightest possible timings is best, though it can be very expensive.

''For the most part, the 14nm++++++++++++ parts seem to be better than the 10nm parts, they consume less power, have more cores and clock higher.'' That is a fancy way of saying The 10nm is worse than the 14nm++, 10nm consumes more power, have fewer cores and clocks lower.

Dude, don't worry about it. Your memory is running at the intended speed.

Double Data Rate Your bios shows the bit rate, which is 2 times the frequency with double data rate. I.e two bits gets transferred per cycle. While the CPU-Z shows the actual cycle rate.

''None of the games I play so far have issues'' There you have it.

This probably cost a few million to make. If not in materials, in the form of tens to hundreds of failed chips. At least in highly skilled engineers working on it for months. Fyi, Intels 56 core glued chip is rumored to cost in the ballpark of 50k USD

It's difficult to say, but i would say AMD was in a worse situation. And it will take at least a couple more years for Intel to start losing, but here is the thing. Due to Intel owning all of their own equipment, factories, fabrications, labs and all the other infrastructure. There is no painless way for Intel to scale back, huge parts of the company is integrated. You can't close down 10% of it, not in a week or half a year. Then again, revenue for 2018 is still up compared to revenue for 2017. Intel is not losing money, they are as profitable as ever. But Intel did report a debt of 25.09 billion USD per June 2019, representing about 1/3 the company's equity. Right now, this is a tolerable situation for Intel. They have debt, but they have more than enough money to pay off said debt. Meanwhile, AMD has a total debt of 1.9 billion USD. Representing about 54% of their equity. This whole situation, beginning with Ryzen in the first quarter of 2017. Could be the very first signs of Intel catastrophically collapsing, akin to how giants such Kodak collapsed in the 1980s onward. Where sales fail, parts of the company is sold off or closed while debt continues to mount. More likely, Intel will have a few years of lower profitability and at worst a slight loss in revenue a year or two. But it's unlikely Intel will go in the negative, and be forced to borrow money to maintain their company.

So here is the Ryzen master software right. Your 3700x has a base clock of 3600mhz. Start up the software click profile 1, press ''manual'' Set voltage to 1.40 volt Gradually increase the clock speed of your CPU, between each incremental increase. Run Cinebench 20 or something. This should get you a decent overclock, without getting too advanced. Maybe around 4.1 to 4.3 all core overclock.

Your parts list is private

Power supply? Motherboard? Memory? Cooling solution? I mean, if you are this green on the subject. I would just put it at auto OC and leave it at that. Important, use the Ryzen Master software, it loads after windows preventing you from bricking your system forcing you to short pins on your motherboard to reload default motherboard settings.

My X570-E recognize the top M.2 without any issues, but i've yet to install a second in the lower M.2 slot. My manual told me to first remove the motherboard shield, then remove the M.2 shield, install the M.2, then install the M.2 shield again then finally install the motherboard shield. It was recognized in BIOS at once, and after a quick formatting in windows it was recognized there. Took like 10 minutes. My Corsair MP510 came bare, with no heat dissipation at all. So i'm currently only using the ''thermal tape'' pre-applied to the M.2 shield on the motherboard. It's working fine, and seeing as manufacturers didn't really start with a thermal solution for their M.2 SSDs before PCI-E 4.0. I'm guessing my PCI-E 3.0 SSD will work flawlessly even with the better than nothing cooling solution Asus provided. Your inability to have the Mobo recognize two M.2 Sata ports may be related to the PCI-E lanes to the M.2 sata, conflicts with the PCI-E lanes to any expansion cards. Check out the ''specifications summary'' section in your manual. In mine, the only shared lanes are the ''x16_3'' and the ''x1_2'' slots. second, go to the motherboard layout section 1.1.2 in your manual. And see which, if any of the PCI-E slots share bandwidth with any of your M.2 SSD slots. The slots should be refereed to as ''M.2_1 socket 3'' and ''M.2_2 socket 3'' in your motherboard manual. On my motherboard, there should be no conflict between any of the M.2 slots and the PCI-E slots. Nor should there be, as the 3900x support 16 + 4 lane utilization. While the motherboard chipset takes care of the second M.2 slot. As for power requirements. The 8 pin is more than enough for 8 core Ryzens and even the 12 core. But it was probably a safe bet from Asus to add the additional 4 pin seeing as AMD is planning to release a 16 core CPU on the platform. I use 8+4 on my 3900x... but it's probably not necessary. 8 pins deliver 235W of continuous power while a 4 pin delivers 155 watts of continuous power. Seeing as the 9900K can exceed a single 8 pin, it was probably a good idea to go for an 8+4 solution having the upcoming 16 core 3950x in mind.

My 12 core 3900x is easily beating the 16 core 1950x in cinebench 20. Checking out some reviews, the 8 core 3700x is not significantly behind the 1920x. The first generation threadripper is simply outdated, unless they are a) cheap (very) b) you require a large amount of pci-e lanes at a low cost. or c) You need to install allot of memory. For pure processing performance, they are not a good buy in 2019. @Lurick 12 core*