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MMKing

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    3900x
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    X570-E Asus
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    G.skill Trident Z GTZR 3200mhz CL14
  • GPU
    RX 570
  • Case
    Corsair 500D Tempered Glass
  • Storage
    Corsair MP510
  • PSU
    Corsair AX860i Platinum
  • Cooling
    Corsair H150i
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro

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  1. The 3600mhz kit will perform better. Not only is it clocked higher, it also has better timings. That said, if you need 32GB, go for the 32GB.
  2. 8 pin CPU power connector will be enough. The extra 4 pin is if you're doing liquid nitrogen or some jazz like that. Basically it's probably a 5 cent upgrade for the manufacturer.
  3. I'm guessing, due to it's semi-modular design. They for some reason did not include the 24 pin connector in the spreadsheet, so the system checking for compatibility cannot find it. Due it being fixed to the PSU unit. Behold. The CPU power pin and the motherboard power pin cannot be detached.
  4. Newegg added G.skill Neo 32GB kit. 3600mhz, CL14-15-15-35 1.40 volt for 540 dollars. I fear to even imagine how much the 3800mhz, 14-16-16-36 1.5 volt is gonna cost.
  5. If you're in the High End desktop segment. Your latest and greatest from Intel is the 18 core 9980XE, at an MSRP of 1700USD. If you want to go above this, you're in the server segment on the LGA3647 socket, with the Xeon W-3175X 28 core option for about 3000USD MSRP. The 9980 support 128GB, 2666mhz memory. The Xeon supports 512GB 2666mhz memory. You can likely clock it higher, though not much higher if you max out the memory capacity. Alternatively, you can get a 32 core 2990WX from AMD for about 1800 USD. Supporting 128GB memory at 2966MHZ. Note that the 2990WX consist of two CPUs on the same die. In certain applications, this is not a problem and Intel is left in a ditch. In other applications, the latency between the CPUs can cause somewhat reduced performance. If 32 cores is not enough, AMD does offer the 7742 Epyc 64 core for about 7500USD. If your applications can even make use of 64 cores, this is as good as it gets right now unless you're buying on behalf of Google, Facebook or other giant companies. The CPU supports up to 4TB memory, at 3200mhz. But i don't think there are motherboards supporting this memory capacity AND frequency. You can also take a look at the 16 core AMD 3950x launching in september for about 750USD. I got the 12 core variant myself and i'm very happy with it, even though you seem to need the cores much more than i do. It supports 3200mhz memory, up to 128GB i believe. Basically, Intel attempted an extremely ambitious jump from 14nm to 10nm all the way back in 2014. Slated for release in 2016/2017. As of 2019, they have yet to deliver and the rumor mill has it that even after 2-3 years of delays they are not close to full 10nm production. What they have produced have been lower power mobile chips, at best, performing marginally better than their 14nm CPUs. At best they will lose some market through 2019 and 2020. At worst, they won't be competitive in the extremely lucrative server segment for several years. Resulting in a downward spiral of revenue loss and mounting debt affecting them for the better part of a decade to come. This doom-saying have yet to materialize however, even though AMD started competing again in 2017. Intel still increased it's yearly revenue in 2017 and 2018.
  6. I've found allot of the screws used to be quite cheap, especially fan screws tend to get worn out very easily. Rarely will you come across high quality screws, the only ones i can think of at the moment is the screws to my side panel, doubt i could damage those by hand cranking.
  7. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=639584818 The X570 motherboards are definitely better suited for the 12 and 16 core options. I mean look at it like this. The high end motherboards on the X470 platform were designed for the 8 core 16 thread 2700x maximum. There was no options higher than this, thus you have a situation where only two Asus motherboards in the X470 lineup able to comfortably handle 200 amps on the CPU. But why not? Because it's definitely not needed, not for 8 core, and 8 core was max. With the 3000 series, AMD is doubling the core count. Previously, the highest quality power stage was the IR3555 60A on the X470 Crosshair VII Hero. Now, the lowest quality power stage is a SIC639 50A on the X570-P, but even then, there are two power stages per phase. The entry level X570-P can in fact handle the 3950x, comfortably. There is less comfort with overclocking compared to the most expensive X470 board, but it can handle it. saying X570 only has PCI-E 4.0 is flat out wrong. Between MSI, Asus, Asrock and Gigabyte. There are only 3 motherboards i would absolutely not put a 3950x on. On the X470 platform, it's almost reversed, in that there are only a handful of boards that can handle a 3950x. By the way, which Strix X470? The ATX sized F-Gaming is significantly better than the mITX I-gaming? The X470-pro is a good option as well for a 3700x. TLDR: Because 3900x and 3950x exist. Almost all X570 motherboards comfortably supports them. Because 3900x and 3950x did not exist in 2018, few X470 boards comfortably supports them and only a couple have comfortable overclocking headroom.
  8. If it comes, it's gonna be mad expensive. Better to run one if their 3200 or 3600 kits at 1.45 volt 3800mhz, then tighten the timings.
  9. Yeah thats about what i got with stock settings.
  10. Custom fan settings I have my 3900x in a Corsair 500D, which is a mediocre case when it comes to thermals but i didn't get it for the thermal performance. I use a Corsair H150i with 6*120mm fans. With another 120mm fan in the back and two 140mm fans at the top of the case. My PSU draws power from the case, though i can only do this because my PSU is total overkill for my system. At 4.3GHZ all core, 1.4125 volt. Max fan speed, about 1750rpm on the 120mm fans and about 1400rpm on the 140mm fans. My CPU sits at around 78-80 degrees C. For workloads requiring fewer cores, such as gaming. I get away with the ''quiet'' setting. Lowering fan RPM to about 700, barely audible.
  11. ''The four memory sockets are divided into two channels and each channel has two memory sockets as following: Channel A: DDR4_2, DDR4_4'' Channel B: DDR4_1, DDR4_3 http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList/Manual/mb_manual_b450-aorus-pro-wifi_1002_e_190528.pdf So 1+3 OR 2+4 OR 1+2+3+4
  12. If you're unsure, 3200mhz is the fastest officially supported. If you want best performance, 3800mhz at the tightest possible timings is best, though it can be very expensive.
  13. ''For the most part, the 14nm++++++++++++ parts seem to be better than the 10nm parts, they consume less power, have more cores and clock higher.'' That is a fancy way of saying The 10nm is worse than the 14nm++, 10nm consumes more power, have fewer cores and clocks lower.
  14. Dude, don't worry about it. Your memory is running at the intended speed.
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