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  1. I did not know it's called having balls... Anyway that doesn't mean those were made/sold for free, and doesn't mean you can get exactly the same thing without a problem. Anyway, we have no idea what the layout of this case looks like because you did not show us a photo of the interior or even back of the case. You know what's inside, we don't. Show us a photo of the back if you don't want to tear it down. Cases looking like this were standard, but they had various different layouts. The looks were just the trend. As for the vents being similar - these are round holes. they are not placed similarly as in our case, at least on the photo. Just on one side. What's similar about that? the hole layout? The hole shape? What that has to do with being similar? These are venting holes, something that was tested and optimised by intel long time ago, and there's nothing much you can do about the shape of it.
  2. The fact that someone was throwing away a case doesn't mean it was free to begin with, that's just random. Do you realise there's a huge difference in size/volume between this case and Sentry? Also I don't get the similarity apart from the fact that both can be used horizontally and vertically...
  3. I'm not really sure why are you so angry about this specific thing. Yes, we did not say it's going to be crowdfunded above the clock. The case was crowdfunded for first version, we were talking with others on the forums about crowdfunding and we told reviewers about campaign coming soon. There's a FAQ on our product page answering the question on whether it's going to be in retail stating it'll be crowdfunded as well. Bitwit mentioned it'll be crowdfunded as well etc etc. You could have literally ask us through mail or on the forums/reddit/twitter if Sentry 2.0 was going to be available in retail worldwide, but it seems like you did not bother doing so. Wait what? One thing is that yes, there could have been cases looking similar on the outside. What we did is the optimisation of layout and space efficiency. Also a free case? How free? Like who gave out a free product like this? I get that it's not obvious why it's something costing $260, but either the case itself makes sense as something new because there are people backing our campaign, or we are doing outstanding job at marketing something that you could get for free in the 90s.
  4. Linus (as every other reviewer who go the case) was informed that this is going to be crowdfunded, specifically that we're launching campaign soon. It was fairly obvious to anyone who's in tech industry that it's not going to be there right away. Also the price was told to everyone, it's just that bitwit being betwit converted it inaccurately to USD (230 EUR is pretty much 260 USD and not 250 USD as bitwit said). We sent the samples to reviewers specifically for the sake of you, potential clients, not being in the dark about the existence of the case. Between end of the previous campaign and the current one, we had literally hundreds of people mailing us that they did not know about the case being crowdfunded, so we made sure to let people know it's coming. The fact that not everyone said it's going to be crowdfunding campaign was not on our side and in the live stream Linus might have simply forgotten to stress this out. We gave everyone the case with no strings attached, without stating what they have to say, with single requirement: read the manual before making the build and tell people there's info about the manual on the box. That was our single requirement from the reviewers. We were sending them some DM's and mails though when we realised something wasn't clear enough in the manual if they did stuff differently than we expected, so that was our meddling with that, but not too much, I think, just sending them heads up about updates in the manual and notes on hardware picked being incompatible. As for December 2019 deliveries - we've assumed that everyone got used to the fact that crowdfunding takes time, and people want to get actual realistic estimates on when will they get the product rather than being said that they'll get stuff quick and afterwards campaigner will keep saying sorry for being late. Noteworthy is that already three months are taken by campaign itself, funds disbursement from the campaign and order lead times for component manufacturing. So manufacturing time is actually up to 6 months (may be faster, we don't know yet, we have set estimate based on what we know from our previous campaign deliveries).
  5. Theoretically you might be able to fit 240 mm Tundra Slim in GPU compartment, but that would be mounted by the screws only on one side of the radiator where there's a slot for the 120 mm one. The question is whether you can bend the hoses to turn around and go under the hole under riser mount or not. Seems like it's doable but I haven't tested this physically to be honest, and it might have some issues with bending the tubes underneath the cover inlet.
  6. It's roughly what you can see in the gallery that Zombi posted earlier. The only differences being the 20 mm deepcool fan, two sticks of ram instead of one that is in the photos (i had it working for some time in another test machine) and that slim 80 mm fan put over the VRMs. AIO hoses were bent the same way as in the photo and that's the most important piece along the way cables are tucked in between the AIO and PSU.
  7. We have been stuck on trying to figure out whether we should try to support 52 mm AIO package (27 mm radiator with 25 mm fan) and how to do it for a bit. The problem with that is, we would have to move the center rail up above the radiator and fan while making sure the screws holding the riser and 2.5" hdd bracket will not go up as well, because that would limit 2.5" compatibility significantly. We have spent significant amount of time this year simplifying the center rail to make it easier to manufacture and lighter (as visible in the photo galleries) and modifying it to support 52 mm AIO package would make it over complicated once again. We also do not want one configuration that is not necessarily going to be a mainstream one to affect whole construction in such significant way. Most likely mainstream configurations will have a full length GPU instead of AIO + itx-sized one. Because of that, we have decided to figure out first if that 50 mm AIO limit is actually a problem and if using slim fan with 27 mm radiator (which is most common among 120 mm AIOs) will be terrible or not. We have done series of tests this week with Corsair Hydro H75 paired up with 20 mm thick DEEPCOOL GS120 SLIM adding up to a 47 mm package. We have tested three AM4 CPUs with different TDPs: R7 1700/R5 2600X/R7 2700X. Tests were done during two cloudy/overcast days with 25~27°C ambient temperature. We have decided to compile captured footage with temps and clocks tracking instead of compiling data into charts because we feel like it will give you a better understanding how components behave while playing games rather than when looking at raw data. Here's the video: General outcome of those tests is that making support for 52 mm is NOT necessary. Additional notes on such configuration with 120 mm AIO liquid cooling: - Using standard profile memory sticks is STRONGLY RECOMMENDED. It is really tight with two RipJaws sticks, USB 3.0 cables, 24-pin connector and the tubes at the same spot. - It gets really messy with cables between the PSU, radiator and power switch. It is not a configuration recommended to everyone. - Modular PSUs have stiff ribbon cables out of the box and those make it really hard to handle around the power switch. - 2700X with its 105W TDP works okay in games but when fully loaded with video or 3d rendering it gets hot really quick. I think it is not something that should be cooled off with a single slim fan.
  8. It was supported in the first version, but from the 1000+ users just a fraction opted for those. Also that fraction had already problems with modular connectors location. SFX-L keep getting more wattage and to make that vendors push out the modular connectors more and more and even add some size to them. We don't want to support such non-standardised part. For the most users we've seen that corsair SF600 was their go-to choice even for a setup with 1080TI. Anyway that's a trade-off we have to do to support 120mm AIO/3.5" HDD configuration with ITX sized GPUs and we believe it to be a good choice.
  9. I don't think you need to go up to strix since that's the most expensive stuff, and you will not be able to use the potential to OC on that board in Sentry most likely, especially if you were to go with non-K CPU. Both of those board support dual M.2 which is nice
  10. We recommend going for non-K variant, that's for sure. Cryorig is a nice cooler, but it isn't really meant for it's 48mm size because it's really loud when facing inlet close. Check this out to hear for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzpO4kL7a9o C7 had also some issues with mounting mechanisms (too long screws, base interfering with capacitors on 115x boards etc.) when it launch, and I don't know if those were resolved. Noctua NH-L9i seems like standard approach for 65W TDP / non-K CPU. I also think you are slightly confusing i7-8700/K with Ryzen 7 in terms of thread count - the i7-8700/K have 6 cores and 12 threads while Ryzen 7 are the ones with 16 threads. I have Ryzen 7 1700 (65W) in my rig and with NH-L9i it performed okay, and I have to say that this specific CPU is quite interesting as it maintains nice temps when all threads are loaded and it doesn't reach max boost that way, but it heats up pretty quickly to higher temps (still safe though) when running singe/double threaded load. If you are only going to work on this system, I'd recommend going for R7 1700 for the core count, with a proper high-end board, and if you really need top notch performance in games, than think about i7-8700.
  11. I've spotted the model number on Aorus form, not a physical card on a video or photo. It means that there at least is/was a project to 'minify' 1080TI since this model number somehow got to the form.
  12. This card could feature that huge gigabyte fan that is attached to 1080 Mini in Aorus Gaming box for example while also being even taller than 1080 Mini. As for the RX (Vega) Nano, since Vega is already something in between 1070 and 1080, why would you want to compare it to downclocked 1080TI? Or why would you want to downclock 1080TI Mini if it were to be on par with Vega 64/1080?
  13. We're talking specifically about Gigabyte model which hopefully is an ITX sized card meaning it's ~170mm long as other Gigabyte Mini ITX models while Zotac has it's Mini Series slightly longer, roughly ~210mm long. Both vendors make those Mini cards slightly 'oversized' though - the PCB is taller then the reference models to accommodate required components.
  14. Yes, you're right, Zotac already has a 1080TI Mini, but that's not really an ITX format GPU, it's slightly longer, that's why Gigabyte's 1080TI Mini ITX (if exists/is planned) is newsworthy. As I answered VegetableStu about the 1080/1080TI model numbers confusion on the screenshot I provided: I hope that clears out the confusion. Hi
  15. If you mean from, then yeah, I am, you can check that in the threads I started
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