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Is your performance, frametimes and fps all acceptable? If so, and your in game graphics settings are maxed out... then there is nothing wrong. CS:GO and Overwatch are designed to be easy for low end GPU's to run well and you have a high end GPU, so those games should run at very high fps with your GPU.

What I took away from that post is that a wholesaler is forced to buy the Packs to receive X number of stand alone cards to "prevent" mining co-ops from buying bulk stand alone cards and preserve stock for end users. A question that I ask is, what is the pack to stand alone ratio, bases upon stand alone availability it FEELS like there were more packs offered than stand alone cards(but this is likely a piece of info we'll never know), and AMD's intent would be revealed by that ratio. IF the packs to stand alone ratio is 2:1 or worse then I feel like AMD is trying to force additional margin into the product by artificially inflating the price (and in the process alienating many card buyers by ruining the price/performance ratio), IF the ratio is more favorable to the stand alone card then I would agree that it was done more to deter wholesale co-ops with the idea to see how gamers reacted to the packs being sold at a higher price. IMO, it feels (very subjective) to me like AMD is doing the former. What this ends up doing is forcing the end user to pay an extra $100 for the card that includes stuff they may not want and thusly prices a 64 out of the competitive market and increases margin for AMD on the sales of the packs.

The problem with calling bundles a good way to keep miners from buying vega cards is that the same goal can be accomplished by limiting the number of cards purchasable by an individual household on a vendor by vendor basis, it isn't a perfect solution BUT... it doesn't FORCE a prospective Gamer who wants the card to pay $100 extra if he/she doesn't want the included games or to wait around trying to buy the individual card when it restocks for 2 hours before selling out again at a vendor. IMO AMD has been pretty sketchy in their claims that they will "restock" the individual cards, and sounds more like they will provide LIMITED quantities of the individual cards. Looking at all the evidence from AMD's Statements, Gamers Nexus's cost analysis of the card and the limited stand alone card stock vs availability bundle stock makes me lean more towards AMD breaking even or losing money on the cards and the bundles are a way to recoup just a bit more cash. What I said above still stands... but if AMD wants a future in gaming then their future cards need to follow the RX 400/500 series cards and not repeat vega... the goal of which is to produce a better performance per dollar card than Nvidia. However, what they did was produce a card that: 1: has a silicon die the size of a 1080Ti that provides the gaming performance of a 1080 2: A: uses the most expensive and production limited memory available 2: B: needs the additional cost of a delicate interposer that also requires the GPU package to be shipped to multiple locations/countries for full assembly(it goes from GloFo(not sure where their 14nm foundry is) to Korea for HBM and interposer assembly then gets applied to the board) 3: uses a board with DOUBLE (I believe) the number of power phases as a 1080Ti (again more parts/stuff) 4: they're 1.5 years late to the game for this level of performance, that being that top level performance only carries a premium for so long as a result, they can't hit the better price to performance ratio that rx400/500 was able to hit because they're late to the game, have an unreasonably expensive card, have very limited production capability.

Eh, HBM2 wouldn't be the limiting factor for Navi as HBM2 is already in mass production and will only get better and better yeilds as time goes on, the 7nm production node would be the determining factor and possibly AMD having limited resources for chip design compared to Nvidia. I would personally love to see what the Intel 14nm++ process could to the current crop of GPU's as Intels 14nm process is much better than anyone else's and equal or better to others new "10nm" processes.

We MIGHT see Navi by late 2018 but I would personally think 2019 based upon how late Vega is to the party. So... don't hold your breath for Navi. Update: "Now, GlobalFoundries is making a serious push of its own with early 7nm technology availability and volume production currently planned for the back half of 2018." via ExtremeTech.com 7nm in the last 6months of 2018 would IMO put Navi in early 2019.

Agreed, IMO wait till the aftermarket options come out and pick the one that suits your style, performance and acoustic needs the best. However, the VEGA reference board is still a very good board with a small cooler that most would label inadequate to deliver maximum performance that is both cool and quiet. As gamers nexus has pointed out based upon the Size of the silicon chip, the cost of the HBM2, the interposer and the quality of the board components(such as vrm) AMD could very well be losing money or might be breaking even on sale cost vs parts cost on the 56 model.

I'm not sure that is an entirely accurate thing to say... AMD gave the retailers a rebate on the first stock of cards to encourage them to price at $499, now that that rebate is over the cards cost the retailers more than 499 and they will mark up as needed to msrp or higher if they like since AMD cannot force them to sell at a specific price. So... The price increase is not solely because retailers can do whatever they want now but because AMD initially offered them a rebate to sell the cards below what is now the cost to the retailers to purchase the cards.

Reports out of OC UK indicate that Vega prices at launch may have been reduced introductory pricing for the first batch of cards delivered to retailers and we could see the prices jump $100 within as little as a few days. Whether this report has any truth to it remains to be seen but would be incredibly bad marketing by AMD if proven to be true. Link to the article: HERE

Newegg now has the Vega 64 reference card (air cooled non limited edition)up on their site for order in a few hours... At $599 Link to promotion: Here

In a breakthrough feat of engineering and human to technology interfacing Google has revealed a new form of auto correct "Utilizing advanced retinal scan and proprietary telepathic scanning technology" to help it's billions upon billions of users to ensure their thoughts are Google approved. "New Google Technology Autocorrects Users’ Thoughts" article and details can be found: Here (I'm hoping everyone takes this satire with a good sense of humor and gets a good laugh out of it(I did))

IMO, based on performance the Vega 64 needs to be $499 to be competitive.... But the 1950X, they could price that at $1299 and still be competitive, seems to me that if this is true then RTG needs to reevaluate their pricing.

The organization Judicial watch has sent a letter to California and 11 of its counties regarding its voter registration lists having more registered voters than eligible voters in the counties. "In the letter, Judicial Watch noted that Los Angeles County officials “informed us that the total number of registered voters now stands at a number that is a whopping 144% of the total number of resident citizens of voting age.” '' The article can be found Here Apparently their refusal to cooperate with the election integrity commission because: 1: they hate Trump 2: “it would only serve to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive voter fraud.” according to California Secretary of State Alex Padilla Does anyone else get tired of California and Maxine Waters?

My personal opinion, Corsair ML120 Pro, quiet, excellent lighting style... it's a maglev fan for crying out loud. Here Yes, you can power 2 fans from 1 header with a fan header splitter. Link to not the best example: here

Great card, should provide very similar performance at potentially much lower power draw. The inability to use freesync is a bummer though... but i'm still in the land of 60hz and vsync and i'm happy.

I would personally say no, my primary concern for myself being that liquid metal is conductive, and a GPU does not have an IHS like a CPU so any over application or runoff could potentially short out and therefore potentially destroy. But I could be wrong about the likelihood of that happening.

Lol but... but... dat 4Gb V-ram... that's not enough for 16k resolution! Or crazy ultra settings at lower resolutions! Always something to be said for adjusting your settings to fit your card's capabilities... but it's easier to fuss and complain about someone's choice than do that.

I agree with this for the most part... IMO, get the card that is best fit for your case(dimensions, and cooler style), that you like the looks of but more than those two, The one that best fits your budget. No matter which card you get they're all going to perform within 10% or so of one another and that factor is mostly because of Cooling performance. I personally choose to go with a quality USED card whenever I can, My 1080Ti is of the Founders variety It was bought used for $600 about 2 months ago I then installed my (already owned) EVGA hybrid cooler and sold my previous GTX1080 It now runs cool(mid 60C under heavy load) It boosts to between 2000Mhz and 2012Mhz after a few minutes of usage and is unfortunately bound primarily by a low Max power limit(though voltage limits wouldn't be far behind) So, in the end, I have a cheaper than list, cool and quiet chip that happens to be a slight under performer when it comes to overclocking... but for a 1080Ti 2Ghz and up is pretty good.

You've likely heard this many times before... but i couldn't help but smiling and laughing a bit when I saw in your list at the bottom of your post: On the Shelf: 5960X, 7700K @ 5.3, Gigabyte Z270 Gaming 9., Zotac GTX 560Ti AMP custom BIOS The GTX 560Ti is great! Just seems so out of place and unexpected... like a nautical cruise ship horn on a honda civic... its just not what you were expecting.

There is toothpaste present in the roundup... it came last.

Hi all, I feel as though the forum tends to see a decent number of questions regarding thermal paste: Which ones are the best? How do I apply it? What about Liquid metals? What about all the factors I didn't even know existed? Toms Hardware Guide did a pair of large reviews several years ago and the results of which determined my personal choice of thermal paste being Noctua NT-H1 due to a combination cost and performance. Well, The guide has been updated and now showcases many newer products and still contains a great guide to give anyone a shot at picking a good product and applying it correctly. The article can be found: HERE

I'm 31 and I still game, not nearly as frequently or in amounts as large as when I was 18-22. I was big into vanilla WoW back then, and would have an interest if I had 4-6 hours a day to play but now I prefer the time with my wife and kids with some occasional gaming after they're asleep, preferably something with a great story(Witcher 3, walking dead, Mass Effect 1-3, Starcraft) and good action whether that be FPS, RPG, or Strategy.

"Vega Frontier Edition performs between a 1070 and 1080" Wait for RX Vega they said Wait for Drivers they'll say Give the Drivers 6 months to improve/mature they'll say But HBM2 is better they'll say But the Compute is better! they'll say But if you undervolt it!... they'll say