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Maxxtraxx

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  1. Hi all!

     

    I personally run a Fractal Meshify C(I love it) with:

    9900k 5ghz all core and a 1080TI at 2ghz

    primarily for light general usage and Gaming at 1440p 144hz on games like Overwatch, AC odyssey and VR

     

    I have two 240 AIO coolers for the CPU and GPU

     

    I run the CPU rad in the FRONT intake and the GPU in the TOP exhaust both in a push config and also one rear 140 as an INTAKE.

     

    My reasons are as follows: for gaming there is generally much lighter CPU usage so the case interior components do not heat up as much due to the front mount rad while the TOP rad for the GPU pushes a lot of heat due to the heavy GPU usage. I also noticed a significant drop in GPU temps with the rear 140 fan as an intake to feed cool fresh air to the top gpu radiator, yes I do have a filter for the rear intake fan.


  2. Help us all. 

     

    Everyone Likes to beat on the Hyper 212/evo, its a great cooler and for the price is awesome... sure it is a FEW degrees off the nocuta and dark rock but it's... Half?(maybe) the price. If money is a concern and you're not overclocking more than midly (which should be the case with any of these coolers), the 212 is the performance per dollar winner. If you want the best performance... IMO get a bigger tower cooler for money similar to the NH-U12S. if you can fit these coolers you can probably fit a much larger cooler in the same space like a NH-D15.

     

    i'll throw some tests up here, you can go find your own if you like, we all have opinions, many are crap... but they're ours none the less.

     

    here's some charts since I haven't seen any to go along with opinions yet.

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    Hyper 212 is 2.6C warmer than the dark rock and $24.95 less dough.

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    Hyper 212 is 5C warmer than the nh-u12s and $35(Half) less.


  3. For example, from the same website this card HERE.

    This card uses an internally exhausted cooler with a much larger heat sink for potentially better cooling. it does exhaust the heat inside the case so you may need more fans or ventilation to keep the rest of the case cool but it will allow for more overclocking and be quieter.

     

    The card that you linked is fine however.

    It will produce more noise but it has the benefit of not pushing all of the hot exhaust air into the case and instead pushes it out the back of the card. It will work fine but these "Blower" style cards usually run hotter and have lower clockspeeds as a result. BUT they do not heat up the inside of the case if you have limited airflow or do not desire to add additional airflow/fans.

     

    Just a thought. Good work gathing all the information you needed to make an informed decision!


  4. It appears that you're all set to go ahead and get the card. according to the EVGA product page HERE that PSU (EVGA 600 BQ)has 2 8pin pcie cables available.

     

    Congrats! post again when you get the card installed and up running and tested, we'd like to see the finished product and hear how the install went and what you think of the upgrade.

     

    One final thought. If that's the card you want, then go for it! But there are other options with better coolers for likely a similar price that you may want to consider.


  5. 4 hours ago, MadocJ said:

    Hi is there another normal place for it to tell me as you can't remove the back panel of mine, I'll send a picture if it helps.

    The "back panel" is the side opposite of the panel you removed to see the motherboard, it must be removable because you can see the power cables that are run behind the motherboard. the back panel is not the rear of the machine where the power, usb, and video cables plug in but is instead the panel behind the motherboard.


  6. Hmm, not what we're after. 
    On the opposite side of the case from the side panel that you removed to photograph the motherboard is another panel. remove that "back" panel and you'll have better visibility of the PSU, the PSU information sticker might be visible with the removal of the back panel.

     

    The image here shows the PSU information sticker on the side of the PSU. In this case, indicating a 650W psu along with some power rail information.

     

    unfortunately unless you know the make and model of the PSU there is no other way of telling the Wattage without finding the information sticker on the PSU itself.

     

    if the sticker is not visible after removing the back panel you may need to remove the 4 screws that hold the PSU in the case, these screws are visible in the two above images, with those removed the psu can be gently moved and reoriented to find a wattage indication.

    PSU.jpg


  7. I'm seeing PSU recommendations for a 2080super of around 550w minimum with a recommendation of 600-650.

    So if your PSU hits these marks you should be all set.

    if it's under powered it may still work if it has the connectors but you risk overdrawing the PSU which could cause system shutdowns/instability or potentially trip safety features in the PSU or potentially cause it to catch fire in a rare worst case scenario.


  8. PCIe connector: 6+2pin, when the 6 and 2 are combined they can be plugged into an 8 pin power connector, the 6pin without the +2 pugged in is the second connector you need, it may or may not have the additional 2pin hanging off the side.

     

    in total you need 1 8pin(6+2pin works) and 1 6pin PCIe connectors available.

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  9. 1: are the PCIe connectors you need there

     

    2: checking the PSU(power supply) wattage rating that is on the information sticker found on the PSU. you may be able to find that sticker by removing the back panel of the computer which may make the PSU visible to find that sticker.


  10. yes, that card will fit. your current card takes up 2 vertical slots as the new card will and there is plenty of clearance for card length inside the case.

     

    the final questions are:

     

    does your power supply have enough wattage to meet the new card's needs.

     

    does the power supply have PCIe power cables to match: one 8 pin connector and one six pin connector.

     

    from the picture i can see that the cable currently plugged into the card is a 6+2 pin cable(so an 8 pin), so verify that you have another 6pin PCIE connector available to power the new card and you should be mostly ready to go.


  11. Just now, MadocJ said:

    Hi is there a way to check with the physical case as I bought it in 2018 and can't find the receipt if it helps its made by PC Specialist.

    can you post a picture of the front of the case and of the motherboard area after removing the side panel.


  12. Without knowing the case your build is in we cannot say for sure if this card will fit... that being said, your motherboard appears to be a standard ATX form factor and the blower style card you have listed will fit in the majority of ATX midtower cases, it's a two slot standard length card and is the most "standard" sized card you'll find.


  13. Your cheapest upgrade is an i7-8700k and a 2070super/2080/1080ti/2080super, both are just drop in upgrades with the least amount of headache required the least additional replacements to support them.

     

    9700k is great but does carry the recommendation of a z390 board... it's the only officially supported board. and that will cost you money to replace.

     

    I'm also asuming you are running at least 8 or 16gb of DUAL channel 3000mhz ram.


  14. 1 hour ago, Rudestorm said:

    All fps monitoring tells me games are running around 80 - 140 but obviously varie depending on demand of the game. 

    FPS is a fine metric for understanding raw GPU power but you're not interested in FPS

     

    you're interested in Frametime, this is what causes stuttering, when one frame takes 10x or 20x longer to produce, this causes a pause in the fluidity of the motion and picture.

     

    The end goal of this conversation is to help you pinpoint the cause of that stuttering.

     

    Something, is causing a momentary bottleneck that is starving the GPU of the information it needs to produce the next image/frame for display, it's only a few miliseconds in length but it does ruin the experience.

     

    that bottleneck could be: 

    GPU clock instability(not likely, since your only around 1.85Ghz)

     

    CPU thermal throttling(not likely, since your temps seem good)

     

    System Memory instability... if you're truly running 4000mhz system memory speed, that's very high and I feel dropping that down to 3200mhz as a dignostic test would be very helpful: also, system memory instability is Extremely hard to diagnose with charts/graphs/ect, but dropping the speed is one of the easiest ways to eliminate memory clock instability as a cause.

     

    SSD resource fetching, if the SSD is having issues collecting the resources requested by the program from system storage that will certainly cause issues, the easiest ways i've seen to diagnose this is to monitor SSD transfer speeds to spot any significant drop offs, also to install the games that are having issues onto another SSD to eliminate the drive as a culprit.

     

    registry/pathing errors that direct the system to the wrong spots on the drives to find the information being requested.

     

    trying to connect the frametime spikes with a spike or dip in ssd transfer speed or cpu usage spikes is a helpful metric but will not be helpful in finding system memory that is volatile.

     

    finally... a clean install of windows can do wonders for system stability... its like cleaning a room after removing all the furniture, no matter how much you clean, you will not get more than the superficial dirt unless you start with an empty room.


  15. Hmm, difficult problem. Your description does indicate a possible problem... anything from an overheating cpu/gpu(redo your thermal pastes? or try another cpu cooler to eliminate an AIO failure?) to a dying component.

     

    What would I be doing?

    1. analyze suspected gaming performance against benchmarks for the games using similar hardware to see if your system is definitely low on performance.

     

    2. if above proves true,

    checking GPU clocks and temperature,

    checking cpu clocks and temperature

    checking ram speed and amount

    checking SSD read/write speeds (i've had multiple mechanical drives fail with very low read/write speeds, it can happen with solid state as well)

    reseating all mechanical connections, CPU, Memory, power cables, PCIe peripherals, ect.

     

    3. Reinstalling windows after backing up information and then wiping drives

     

    4. if the above still proves to be unsuccessful, i would then start swapping out suspected components one at a time with known good parts, hopefully by using parts i have on hand or borrowed from a friend or possibly purchasing an upgrade i really wanted anyway.

     

    beyond this, without being there in person, i cant think of any other way to assist.


  16. My Opinion: with a 6800k or a 3770k I see no problem with a 2070super/2080/1080Ti/2080super being an excellent 1440p120hz+ setup, I use a 1080Ti for 1440p 144hz and I enjoy it very much. you may see some CPU bottlenecking on newer titles that can use Higher core counts reliably... however IMO most games on which high refresh rates are very desirable are often less demanding due to their fast paced competitive nature over astonishing graphics and physics.


  17. 3 hours ago, tdkid said:

    well that was actually your opinion first. 1. buy the card you want for the reasons you want it.(performance in your game choices, brand, styling, RGB, cooler performance, personal preference, ect)

     

    I was agreeing with you on that

     

    as for a mechanic thing me too. I repair my own cars because I know how to by working as a repo agent and at a used car dealership and auto auction. I have been in the repo business for 15 years now. let me guess, most of those used GPU purchases from places like facebook market place or ebay? that is kind of what I am talking about, with those its buyer beware and you never know what you are going to get as the person could literally leave the area and never be seen again.

    Glad to hear there are others with a sense of ownership for their vehicles, take care of them and repair of the vehicles themselves.

     

    Most of my GPU purchases have been via craigslist, meet in person, test the card, inspect the card and buy if everything checks out. 2 or 3 have been ebay. I agree there is an unknown factor and less accountability that requires more checks before cash is exchanged.

     

    Also, please forgive my first sentence in the previous post, I was annoyed and I let it affect what I wrote negatively, I was classless and unkind.


  18. 32 minutes ago, tdkid said:

    well first off, you are never going to be smarter than me in that field because I am a repo agent, and have worked for a used car dealer and a driver at an auto auction so I know what I am talking about when I say don't buy used. cars, bikes, RV and other big items have a physical location where you can complain to them and possible get your money back. buying used computer parts is mostly handled online where once you buy something you are pretty much stuck with it because you will have a 30 day warranty on some components that starts the day you buy it, not the day you get it so a week for it to ship and get to you is one less week of your warranty if they give you one at all.

     

    and to the OP.

     

    don't let me saying never scare you. maxxtraxx is right, buy the GPU that you are comfortable with and you like the most. its your system after all and those decisions can only be made by you. I just know that I will never by anything used for my computer because I am not technically advanced enough to figure out what the problem is.

     

     

    You are welcome to your opinion... but proclaiming yourself the smartest person that you know on a given subject is a good way to ensure others have a low opinion of you.

     

    As a automotive mechanic of 12 years who has owned nothing but used cars averaging over 100k miles my entire driving and working life and also having handled 80% of the above listed used GPU purchases in person and not online while using due diligence and common sense my personal actual experience is contrary to yours in both matters. Most buying used done online I would propose is done on ebay? which I have also less frequently done, ebay does have buyer protections in place. Nothing is perfect, including new parts, but common sense, due diligence and reasonable protections are all part of the game.

     

    I do agree with your opinion on buying the GPU that OP is most comfortable with.

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