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Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Nice, maybe you can feel part of what the billet people felt when you ran their faces through the dirt on the silver screen, doubled down on it and auctioned off their IP. 🙂
 
Their IP is now out there, somewhere, ready to potentially ruin their business. What if this block is 20C better? And EK gets it, or Corsair or Byski or anyone? Boom, billet no longer exists. Even just a few degrees better because of some innovation they came up with that can now be copied.
 
This is beyond irresponsible and egregious, paying for a new prototype isn't the absolute lowest level you could go. Hiding behind "it was for charity tho guys!! It's not so bad!" is despicable.

Ironic

RE: Billet labs.  While auctioning things for charity is good.  In this case specifically I think its just as bad as if you had sold it on for profit.  Allegedly - You received something that wasn't yours legally speaking, and therefore had no rights to sell unless given permission, which you didnt.  Again, Allegedly.  Its still wrong even though the money went to a good cause.

Having just rewatched the coverage of the Billet Labs cooler in this context honestly I think LTT isn't that bad here. Obviously if they were supposed to return the block and auctioned it off instead that's pretty awful, but in terms of what they said about the product I think it was a fair take. Testing with the 3090TI would have been better, but probably won't actually affect the purchasing decision of anyone who would buy that thing.

contacting linus personally, and resolving it quietly. is the exact opposite of "proper journalistic practices", what an absolute narcasistic arrogant buffoon

Steve is lame for doing this piece on LTT for someone who linus called his friend. I can see lots of other creators not dealing with GN any more for this. I bought over $400 of product from GN but will not spend another penny there due to this.
 
zero need for this BS hit piece . There are tons of other stories he could have done and this is dumb and just starting a fight and drama for no reason. Linus has said multiple times LTT videos are entertainment first. They never said they were 1000% accurate . This is like being mad at McDonald’s for their burgers not looking the exact same as the picture…

Data issues aside; @LinusTech Regarding the Billet Labs situation, could you please publicly state and justify the monetary compensation paid out to Billet Labs for the “loss” of their prototype? What steps are you taking to prevent such issues in the future?

Billet Labs have been treated disgustingly by Linus and LMG and they should be ashamed of themselves.
 
They set that block up for failure from the start, used wrong card model entirely, wasn’t mounted correct as a result, shot the block to bits in the review because they made a mes sod the review, didn’t send it back and then sold it at auction.
 
And in the WAN show he just continued to double down on dumping all over the block even though LMG did everything wrong.
 
That section made me very upset and Linus deserves everything he gets for that one.
 
 
As for the shoddy results from tests, well when you don’t take stickers of a mouse then criticise it ……. hardly a shock the rest of the standards are suspect.
 
There are some questions around impartiality but the biggest issue is how dirty they did billet labs.

Anyone who doesn't think Linus is still the driving force of the company is being naïve. 
 
That isn't to say that LMG might not be counting on there being a lot of naïve people out there. 

Really can't believe what they did with with that water block, not only did they not test it properly, they apparently never followed their instructions, used the wrong hardware, never sent it back as requested as it was their best prototype and then auctioned it off!. This was a small startup and if it hasn't already it could kill that company.

And now that prototype is out in the wild that device could end up being copied and really kill the company. What in the hell where they thinking by auctioning it off in the first place as its a borrowed prototype, they don't own it. 

Yeah I just watched the vid that was shocking they have probably caused a tonne of problems for that company along with linus shitting all over the product and then doubling down on it when they used the wrong gpu

I find some of Steve's points not that troubling, like the private framework investment or the past workplaces of some employees.
 
But the Billet Labs situation makes me speechless. So many bad takes and then selling the prototype. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK LMG?
In WAN we get all the talk about how hard product design is. How small creators are affected by YouTube decisions or by react content. But when it is in LMG's hand you don't seem to be any better.
 
I also stopped watching ShortCircut some weeks ago, because I felt like the content was just useless. It is to long and has to many opinions for an unboxing but is not accurate enough to be review. I also felt misled with a ShortCirut representation of a product, after buing it myself.
 
I was already disappointed by the "Trust me Bro" shitshow. Even if Linus is now publicly stating that this wasn't a great move, there is still no heartfelt apology.
So, I will again hope for the best but only expect a “RIP Billet Labs” t-shirt on WAN show. Which is kind of sad. ☹

"We can't spend a few hundred bucks to make sure we're not irreparably damage a companies reputation"
Seriously? To make 100% sure before you fuck over a startup you can't spend an hour or two to double check your results?
And then you SOLD the block at an auction causing them to be stalled as they no longer have their best prototype! What the absolute fuck????

GN did actually offer returns, even after months, to anyone affected.
 
Here's GN's response to that issue - I started the video where they explain the situation.
1. They immediately marked the mat as "Out of Stock" so that no on else would buy them.
2. They attempted to find a means to fix the issue by correcting the mats and failed to find one.
3. They created pinout cards to send to affected customers, which include not only the correction, but additional pinout info. They also made metal pins featuring the corrected pinout. Anyone affected was sent an email where they could get a kit featuring these. Anyone who didn't want a kit was allowed to return the mod mat for a refund instead.
4. They did then decide to sell the remaining mod mats, however, with the full correction kit, and with complete transparency on their website about what you were getting.