orcinhell

Lol... I showed him doom 3 and he was scared (tried acting brave)... I don't think he would ever sleep again after outlast.

Lol... I showed him doom 3 and he was scared (tried acting brave)... I don't think he would ever sleep again after outlast.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($113.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($81.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($47.98 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($199.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($68.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $694.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-23 21:05 EDT-0400
 
Why $250 for a 270X when you can get a 280X for $200? The V300 is shitty as well, a BX100 is much better. I just picked a MB with high reviews, you can change it.

Nexus 7 2013
 
I use mine predominantly to watch Youtube videos in bed prior to falling asleep.

I hope this story brings a smile to some faces, and please share any stories you have of improvising with the PC,
 
So I dabble in the use of controller from time to time, my xbox 360 controller broke while I was playing dark souls, that was some time ago. I have been playing the Witcher 3 lately and found the PC controls a bit clunky, so I decided to buy myself a new xbox one controller and give that ago.
 
I got it yesterday and its been great... Almost. See up until now when I have used a controller I have played games that are void of the feature by luck or are platforms and save constantly by nature. That feature being quick save. Now that I am playing a game with quick save the controller was driving me nuts. I have quick saving so ingrained into my brain I have to press it every few minutes. My room mate saw me using the controller and made remarks, "couldn't resit?"... He is a avid console gamer and we constantly give each other stick.
 
So today I decided to solve the problem, I had work off and spare time, I refuse to let go of the controller every 2 minutes to hit a key on my keyboard... I might as well use that. First I tried xpadder and my aim was to rebind or macro the xbox logo button itself... didn't work... I tried looking at what layout W3 used and find a key I could sacrifice, select could of worked as its used for the pause/menu. But I refused to compromise, that's not the PC way!
 
Later my room mate comes home and sees me using the controller playing Witcher 3 quite content, he comments, "see a little compromise and your having fun and relaxing, its not so bad". Then he looks down and notices my foot moving, "O for the love of god" and I burst out laughing. He ended up walking out of the room shaking his head "PC Gamers".
 
Unwilling to sacrifice any button or reach for the keyboard I decided to use xpadder for a difference reason. After dusting off my Fanatec clubsport peddles I use for sim racing I quickly was able to rebind the accelerator to F5, Brake is Inventory to save having to dive though to many menus, and clutch for the character sheet. I have my cake and I get to eat it too.

I hope this story brings a smile to some faces, and please share any stories you have of improvising with the PC,
 
So I dabble in the use of controller from time to time, my xbox 360 controller broke while I was playing dark souls, that was some time ago. I have been playing the Witcher 3 lately and found the PC controls a bit clunky, so I decided to buy myself a new xbox one controller and give that ago.
 
I got it yesterday and its been great... Almost. See up until now when I have used a controller I have played games that are void of the feature by luck or are platforms and save constantly by nature. That feature being quick save. Now that I am playing a game with quick save the controller was driving me nuts. I have quick saving so ingrained into my brain I have to press it every few minutes. My room mate saw me using the controller and made remarks, "couldn't resit?"... He is a avid console gamer and we constantly give each other stick.
 
So today I decided to solve the problem, I had work off and spare time, I refuse to let go of the controller every 2 minutes to hit a key on my keyboard... I might as well use that. First I tried xpadder and my aim was to rebind or macro the xbox logo button itself... didn't work... I tried looking at what layout W3 used and find a key I could sacrifice, select could of worked as its used for the pause/menu. But I refused to compromise, that's not the PC way!
 
Later my room mate comes home and sees me using the controller playing Witcher 3 quite content, he comments, "see a little compromise and your having fun and relaxing, its not so bad". Then he looks down and notices my foot moving, "O for the love of god" and I burst out laughing. He ended up walking out of the room shaking his head "PC Gamers".
 
Unwilling to sacrifice any button or reach for the keyboard I decided to use xpadder for a difference reason. After dusting off my Fanatec clubsport peddles I use for sim racing I quickly was able to rebind the accelerator to F5, Brake is Inventory to save having to dive though to many menus, and clutch for the character sheet. I have my cake and I get to eat it too.

I hope this story brings a smile to some faces, and please share any stories you have of improvising with the PC,
 
So I dabble in the use of controller from time to time, my xbox 360 controller broke while I was playing dark souls, that was some time ago. I have been playing the Witcher 3 lately and found the PC controls a bit clunky, so I decided to buy myself a new xbox one controller and give that ago.
 
I got it yesterday and its been great... Almost. See up until now when I have used a controller I have played games that are void of the feature by luck or are platforms and save constantly by nature. That feature being quick save. Now that I am playing a game with quick save the controller was driving me nuts. I have quick saving so ingrained into my brain I have to press it every few minutes. My room mate saw me using the controller and made remarks, "couldn't resit?"... He is a avid console gamer and we constantly give each other stick.
 
So today I decided to solve the problem, I had work off and spare time, I refuse to let go of the controller every 2 minutes to hit a key on my keyboard... I might as well use that. First I tried xpadder and my aim was to rebind or macro the xbox logo button itself... didn't work... I tried looking at what layout W3 used and find a key I could sacrifice, select could of worked as its used for the pause/menu. But I refused to compromise, that's not the PC way!
 
Later my room mate comes home and sees me using the controller playing Witcher 3 quite content, he comments, "see a little compromise and your having fun and relaxing, its not so bad". Then he looks down and notices my foot moving, "O for the love of god" and I burst out laughing. He ended up walking out of the room shaking his head "PC Gamers".
 
Unwilling to sacrifice any button or reach for the keyboard I decided to use xpadder for a difference reason. After dusting off my Fanatec clubsport peddles I use for sim racing I quickly was able to rebind the accelerator to F5, Brake is Inventory to save having to dive though to many menus, and clutch for the character sheet. I have my cake and I get to eat it too.

I hope this story brings a smile to some faces, and please share any stories you have of improvising with the PC,
 
So I dabble in the use of controller from time to time, my xbox 360 controller broke while I was playing dark souls, that was some time ago. I have been playing the Witcher 3 lately and found the PC controls a bit clunky, so I decided to buy myself a new xbox one controller and give that ago.
 
I got it yesterday and its been great... Almost. See up until now when I have used a controller I have played games that are void of the feature by luck or are platforms and save constantly by nature. That feature being quick save. Now that I am playing a game with quick save the controller was driving me nuts. I have quick saving so ingrained into my brain I have to press it every few minutes. My room mate saw me using the controller and made remarks, "couldn't resit?"... He is a avid console gamer and we constantly give each other stick.
 
So today I decided to solve the problem, I had work off and spare time, I refuse to let go of the controller every 2 minutes to hit a key on my keyboard... I might as well use that. First I tried xpadder and my aim was to rebind or macro the xbox logo button itself... didn't work... I tried looking at what layout W3 used and find a key I could sacrifice, select could of worked as its used for the pause/menu. But I refused to compromise, that's not the PC way!
 
Later my room mate comes home and sees me using the controller playing Witcher 3 quite content, he comments, "see a little compromise and your having fun and relaxing, its not so bad". Then he looks down and notices my foot moving, "O for the love of god" and I burst out laughing. He ended up walking out of the room shaking his head "PC Gamers".
 
Unwilling to sacrifice any button or reach for the keyboard I decided to use xpadder for a difference reason. After dusting off my Fanatec clubsport peddles I use for sim racing I quickly was able to rebind the accelerator to F5, Brake is Inventory to save having to dive though to many menus, and clutch for the character sheet. I have my cake and I get to eat it too.

I hope this story brings a smile to some faces, and please share any stories you have of improvising with the PC,
 
So I dabble in the use of controller from time to time, my xbox 360 controller broke while I was playing dark souls, that was some time ago. I have been playing the Witcher 3 lately and found the PC controls a bit clunky, so I decided to buy myself a new xbox one controller and give that ago.
 
I got it yesterday and its been great... Almost. See up until now when I have used a controller I have played games that are void of the feature by luck or are platforms and save constantly by nature. That feature being quick save. Now that I am playing a game with quick save the controller was driving me nuts. I have quick saving so ingrained into my brain I have to press it every few minutes. My room mate saw me using the controller and made remarks, "couldn't resit?"... He is a avid console gamer and we constantly give each other stick.
 
So today I decided to solve the problem, I had work off and spare time, I refuse to let go of the controller every 2 minutes to hit a key on my keyboard... I might as well use that. First I tried xpadder and my aim was to rebind or macro the xbox logo button itself... didn't work... I tried looking at what layout W3 used and find a key I could sacrifice, select could of worked as its used for the pause/menu. But I refused to compromise, that's not the PC way!
 
Later my room mate comes home and sees me using the controller playing Witcher 3 quite content, he comments, "see a little compromise and your having fun and relaxing, its not so bad". Then he looks down and notices my foot moving, "O for the love of god" and I burst out laughing. He ended up walking out of the room shaking his head "PC Gamers".
 
Unwilling to sacrifice any button or reach for the keyboard I decided to use xpadder for a difference reason. After dusting off my Fanatec clubsport peddles I use for sim racing I quickly was able to rebind the accelerator to F5, Brake is Inventory to save having to dive though to many menus, and clutch for the character sheet. I have my cake and I get to eat it too.

I am willing to listen to someone debate why PC users should by a AMD card.
 
But as soon as I read a comment about even though the 300 series is rebranded that dates back to 2012, its performance is still fine as justification, loses all credibility.
 
The 300 series is a rebrand, and if done correctly and fairly would be little reason to debate over... But its not and you fail to see it or justify the whole GPU lineup with this almighty Fury we hear so much about. That is only one card in many.
 
- the 300 series is rebranded and sold at a much higher cost, even though almost all of its tech was present in later releases of the 290X. rebrand aside you think its fine paying an extra 100 dollars for a 390X when its the same freaking card... which die hard fans even openly admit too.
 
- The 300 series performance increase is already being proven to be mostly drivers yet AMD fans are fine with the fact that those benchmark show performance gains in games older 290X series card were struggling on. Those very games that AMD came out and said "its gameworks" and tried to shift blame on poor performing drivers. Instead of giving you the driver update you have to buy a new card to get that performance. People already have the 300 series drivers working on 200 series cards... THAT IS WRONG.
 
- AMD in a single release have given the middle finger to their consumers who only spend 500 (AUD) or less on a GPU by releasing current tech at a higher price with drivers being the main factor behind improved performance... While these fans sit their and defend the company AMD have decided to spent their entire RND budget on the FURY, a card the main group of AMD owners will never own. All because they want to change their company from a budget company to a Performance...
 
That is like if Nvidia said hey our new maxwell chip is only available to those willing to spend the money on a 980 or higher... all you guys who buy the lower end cards... you know the majority of our profit.... you guys get the 770 rebranded... Don't worry about performance we tweaked it in a driver so its faster... O btw its 100 bucks more then the 770 was.
 
 
AMD has literally committed one of the biggest f yous to its consumer base in its history and has every AMD fan grinning with shit of there face pretending its chocolate. That is why I will never by AMD again.

There are close to nobody who is serious with the PC Master Race, And the few who is usually are narrow minded extremists.
Pretty much all fandom is bad fandom.

I am willing to listen to someone debate why PC users should by a AMD card.
 
But as soon as I read a comment about even though the 300 series is rebranded that dates back to 2012, its performance is still fine as justification, loses all credibility.
 
The 300 series is a rebrand, and if done correctly and fairly would be little reason to debate over... But its not and you fail to see it or justify the whole GPU lineup with this almighty Fury we hear so much about. That is only one card in many.
 
- the 300 series is rebranded and sold at a much higher cost, even though almost all of its tech was present in later releases of the 290X. rebrand aside you think its fine paying an extra 100 dollars for a 390X when its the same freaking card... which die hard fans even openly admit too.
 
- The 300 series performance increase is already being proven to be mostly drivers yet AMD fans are fine with the fact that those benchmark show performance gains in games older 290X series card were struggling on. Those very games that AMD came out and said "its gameworks" and tried to shift blame on poor performing drivers. Instead of giving you the driver update you have to buy a new card to get that performance. People already have the 300 series drivers working on 200 series cards... THAT IS WRONG.
 
- AMD in a single release have given the middle finger to their consumers who only spend 500 (AUD) or less on a GPU by releasing current tech at a higher price with drivers being the main factor behind improved performance... While these fans sit their and defend the company AMD have decided to spent their entire RND budget on the FURY, a card the main group of AMD owners will never own. All because they want to change their company from a budget company to a Performance...
 
That is like if Nvidia said hey our new maxwell chip is only available to those willing to spend the money on a 980 or higher... all you guys who buy the lower end cards... you know the majority of our profit.... you guys get the 770 rebranded... Don't worry about performance we tweaked it in a driver so its faster... O btw its 100 bucks more then the 770 was.
 
 
AMD has literally committed one of the biggest f yous to its consumer base in its history and has every AMD fan grinning with shit of there face pretending its chocolate. That is why I will never by AMD again.

I am not going to pretend you didn't make some valid points.
 
But I still stick by what I said and that is fine, difference of opinion. I think its awful that people justify the new pricing with saying things like "If you're sitting there saying "Why would I buy a 390x instead of a 290x" my response is "Why haven't you already bought a 290 /290x?" So the 290x was great and I should of bought that? if so what does the 390X offer then? As for the fury not being able to be cut down, I am aware that it cannot be cut down due to the new HBM. That is my point.
 
Moving forward with AMD they have created a beast of a card, that is high end and worthy of a high end price tag. 100%. That said they made choices to go after certain technologies that would result in them not being able to distribute their new chip through their user base from high to lower end, limiting it to high end users only. The lower end users are still left high and dry. As you said they should of bought a 290X... but that hardly justifies AMD bending over possibly new AMD fans. I am not debating the performance of the the 390X, its good... What I am saying is they reached that level with almost drivers alone, very little was done to the card. How is that fine? A 290X user has to have less performance because a 390X needs to be justified at that price? They are essentially charging people for better drivers. And what happens to that performance in 12 months are they still going to work hard on drivers then or are they going to be the same quaility of the 290X, its performance gain could shrink drastically. And if it remains the same good quality how do they justify that to the 200 series users?
 
I can afford a fury, and it did interest me but I am not going to support a company that 1 leaves it lower end fanbase behind and 2 thinks it fine charging more for drivers because that is exactly what they are doing in a bid to be seen as performance company instead of a budget company. Nvidia is not perfect either I switched and their last 3 driver releases have sucked ass TDR problems left right and center people are getting crashes using chrome... CHROME, the 3.5 fiasco sucked... but at the moment I think Nvidia is the lesser of two evils and I felt safest going with them over team red, which sucked because the 7970, my last card was the best card I ever owned... AMD is not the savoir or good guy that people make them out to be. Both companies need a serious readjusting of their values pronto.

I brought the lube.

Other than the extra vram (which was available on some aftermarket cards) and minor improvements to performance, the 390x doesn't offer a huge upgrade.   But the reason they aren't releasing them at the same price they had the 290/290x at is simply because those prices were unsustainable.  They were trying to clear off inventory and had the cards incredibly cheap.   The 390 is equivalent to the 290x and costs about the same as it did. (Roughly $430 CAD)  The 390x performs better and cost a bit more, but still undercuts the competition with similar performance. (The x variant has never been worth the extra money imo.)  
 
You're not meant to upgrade with each series.  The upgrade from the 760 to the 960 was shit too, even if it is a new architecture.  The 780Ti and 980 were neck and neck on release until Nvidia started gimping Kepler with driver updates in new titles.  (People in witcher 3 saw massive gains of 10-15 FPS after they added optimizations for Kepler in the next driver release...)  The 3xx cards are not meant to appeal to 2xx owners.  They're meant to appeal to people still running older 6xxx cards or weaker 7xxx cards.  Someone with a 7870 ,7950 or 7970 won't see a huge benefit unless they jump to atleast a 390. (And that isn't a rebrand issue.  They'd see very little gains jumping to an equivalent Nvidia card like the 960 or the 380 which is a new architecture as well.)  
 
It's the state of the GPU market being stuck on 28nm for so long that we haven't seen massive improvements in the last few generations.  Quite frankly I think it was smarter of AMD not to develop new mid range 28nm architectures when 16nm is around the corner.  They weren't lacking in performance relative to their competition on the low end, they were lacking it on the high end.  So they made a high end card that competes with the best Nvidia has to offer, and get to say they were the first to implement technology that is going to become the next industry standard. (And give their engineers some experience with it.)
 
I mean don't get me wrong, I'd love if every card was brand new and we could discuss new features and improvements instead.  But I don't think someone who spends the money on a 3xx card is going to be really disappointed with how it plays games.  I don't think jumping to Nvidia offers any better performance in the respective price bracket, either.  In fact I'd say this generation is so closely matched it's absurd.  You can spend nearly the same amount of money and get almost exactly the same performance at every tier below the 390x/gtx 980.  And at the high end AMD undercuts nvidia while offering the same or better.  

I am willing to listen to someone debate why PC users should by a AMD card.
 
But as soon as I read a comment about even though the 300 series is rebranded that dates back to 2012, its performance is still fine as justification, loses all credibility.
 
The 300 series is a rebrand, and if done correctly and fairly would be little reason to debate over... But its not and you fail to see it or justify the whole GPU lineup with this almighty Fury we hear so much about. That is only one card in many.
 
- the 300 series is rebranded and sold at a much higher cost, even though almost all of its tech was present in later releases of the 290X. rebrand aside you think its fine paying an extra 100 dollars for a 390X when its the same freaking card... which die hard fans even openly admit too.
 
- The 300 series performance increase is already being proven to be mostly drivers yet AMD fans are fine with the fact that those benchmark show performance gains in games older 290X series card were struggling on. Those very games that AMD came out and said "its gameworks" and tried to shift blame on poor performing drivers. Instead of giving you the driver update you have to buy a new card to get that performance. People already have the 300 series drivers working on 200 series cards... THAT IS WRONG.
 
- AMD in a single release have given the middle finger to their consumers who only spend 500 (AUD) or less on a GPU by releasing current tech at a higher price with drivers being the main factor behind improved performance... While these fans sit their and defend the company AMD have decided to spent their entire RND budget on the FURY, a card the main group of AMD owners will never own. All because they want to change their company from a budget company to a Performance...
 
That is like if Nvidia said hey our new maxwell chip is only available to those willing to spend the money on a 980 or higher... all you guys who buy the lower end cards... you know the majority of our profit.... you guys get the 770 rebranded... Don't worry about performance we tweaked it in a driver so its faster... O btw its 100 bucks more then the 770 was.
 
 
AMD has literally committed one of the biggest f yous to its consumer base in its history and has every AMD fan grinning with shit of there face pretending its chocolate. That is why I will never by AMD again.

I brought the lube.

Which driver version? Nvidia release a hotfix on their website 353.12 that is supposed to alleviate the issue. Try that if you don't have it.

200 series all the way.
 
The 300 series is effectively a driver update... that you pay more for.
 
Edit: I am not team green. But buying a 300 series card is the same as paying extra for better drivers. Something that no one should support.

200 series all the way.
 
The 300 series is effectively a driver update... that you pay more for.
 
Edit: I am not team green. But buying a 300 series card is the same as paying extra for better drivers. Something that no one should support.

I would love this. Competition is always good, no matter what side of the fence you sit on. That said they are so far behind I don't think its ever going to happen...
 
CPU releases have been a hail marry, fans crossing fingers in the hope they somehow manage to close the gap Intel put on them all those years ago... I chance for it too be like old times.
 
The GPU game is being dominated by Nvidia. On the surface AMD performance is looking promising, which is great... But below that are razor thin profits in comparisons due to limitations in RND, manufacturing costs on the red team are much higher, This has been addressed by AMD already claiming the need to move from a "budget" company in a bid to stop the loss of profits seen in the last few years....
 
Meanwhile on team green they have been spending on RND and expanding the company... Fury might be the fastest card out... but the market majority is down in the 380/390 960/70 range. And even if AMD beat them in performance Nvidia can crush them with price, they can make the cards much cheaper then AMD. And what performance is gained is only going to last until the next release... Then AMD what? Do what refresh again... Lower the prices on fury even lower...
 
I hope AMD crush this release somehow and make millions billions and this all becomes a distant memory. But a lot has to change.

I'd not pay the premium for a driver update. You can get a R9 290 for like $220 from Diamond.

200 series all the way.
 
The 300 series is effectively a driver update... that you pay more for.
 
Edit: I am not team green. But buying a 300 series card is the same as paying extra for better drivers. Something that no one should support.

200 series all the way.
 
The 300 series is effectively a driver update... that you pay more for.
 
Edit: I am not team green. But buying a 300 series card is the same as paying extra for better drivers. Something that no one should support.

200 series all the way.
 
The 300 series is effectively a driver update... that you pay more for.
 
Edit: I am not team green. But buying a 300 series card is the same as paying extra for better drivers. Something that no one should support.