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I never said there was malice or "apple friendliness" behind the "A+ build quality" comment. It's not about agreeing, there is an objective way to measure things and build quality is no exception. Your way of believing Alex or anyone in the media, making serious claims without proof, is simply wrong as a consumer. Alex (like all of us) has his own biases and he can say what he believes, but not state it as a fact. Alex is not me or you chatting on a forum, there is a certain journalistic responsibility when you make a video about a product. You can't just claim things as facts without proving them. Especially things that it's (mostly) known to be untrue in the PC community, like the built quality of apple's products. Review, unboxing, first impressions, doesn't matter what it is: If you decide to make factual claims they have to be proven. If you can't prove (understandable) you can say "the manufacturer claims" or "in my experience" or "it feels like" or simply don't comment on it if it's too much for an unboxing. But if you decide to make a serious claim like "A+ build quality" AND dismiss the flex testing you just did, you better have some facts to back that claim up. Exactly. Even if you do every test the factory did (maybe possible with LTTs resources but still very hard) nothing can't simulate actually using the thing for a year. I don't really think it's possible to stress test something in a review period to get a definitive "A+ build quality" comment that is meaningful, so another reason comments like that should not be made by media.

Is it obvious for everyone in a world where people watch and trust "paid reviews" and base buying decisions on unboxings and first impressions videos? I am pretty sure its not obvious even for the majority of LTT viewers. "We" all know that if Apple provided you with a sample, you didn't really make a "review" of that product, because Apple doesn't allow negativity on their product "reviews", unless the solution to that negative point is to buy the more expensive one or "wait for an update to fix it" LTT never accepted that (respect) so they distanced themselves from Apple. That gives them extra credibility when covering Apple products. That's why they should be extra careful covering them, because people trust them more. And saying something is "A+ build quality" without any numbers to support that claim, is wrong. Would you accept an "A+ performance" claim for any product without some benchmarks? Why you accept an "A+ build quality" claim without any numbers then? Especially on products that have a bad history in build quality. That would be very hard to be done properly. You will need multiple SCIENTIFIC stress tests (not the "we did a random drop on concrete" useless tests on YT) PCB inspection by an actual repairman or engineer and actually using the product for at least 1 year imo.

Here you go buddy. https://affordablecomputerrepairs.com.au/macbook-faults-2017-2020/ https://youtu.be/AUaJ8pDlxi8 https://youtu.be/GuWUUTNg9r4 https://youtu.be/7cNg_ifibCQ And thats only for macbooks, iphones, ipads and almost every apple product ever had some kind of flaw.

No build quality has a specific meaning and you can google that (spoiler alert, its how a product is actually built, not how it feels like) YOU maybe have the context of "its just an unboxing he cant possibly know if the build quality is good, so he must mean it just feels like it is" but most people dont. Many people will base their buying decision on Alex saying it IS "A+ build quality" since they trust him more than the other Apple friendly channels out there and expect to get a durable laptop that will last long, which most likely won't (given apple's track record)

Are you serious? DId u even read those or you googled "macbooks most reliable survey" or something? The only one citing an actual survey is the first one saying "Consumer Reports survey, as they have in previous years. Our latest survey of more than 58,000 laptop owners" 58.000 laptop owners? PCs or macs? what percentage on that 58k is macbooks? The number I want to know is the percentage of defective apple products. Also take note that people tend to be more careful of their apple baby that cost 1000+ than the HP crap they got for 200 at best buy.

Alex can mean day is night and night is day, but it doesn't make it so. We all need to speak the same language here. You can't say anything IS "A+ build quality" on an unboxing, period. You can say it FEELS like "A+ build quality" and it should be said for macbooks.

LMAO source? How is warranty not directly connected with the manufacturer putting money where their mouth is, saying we know we build a durable product and it wont break, so we will repair it for free for 5 years instead of 1-2 our competitors offer? "Feels like" and "actually is" are very different things. The "feels like", should absolutely be mentioned as a plus for the macbooks. But just because it feels like quality you cant say it is. Especially with Apple's track record of issues with almost every product they ever released. As I mentioned, people associate build quality with durability and longevity, which is something you can't claim on an unboxing.

No its not a Macbook thread. Its a "claiming things you didn't test as fact" thread. I would say exactly the same if any product on any video was called "A+ quality" without some numbers to support it: actual stress testing, longer than usual warranty from the manufacturer, track record of a company making quality stuff (noctua for example). Calling Apple products "A+ build quality" is just worse, because the company has the opposite of a "track record making quality stuff". Their track record is making disposable products, planned obsolescence and design flows with only 1 year warranty, not economically viable repairs, because they expect you to buy the new thing every year.

I had an Asus EEE back in the day, and I can tell you it didn't flex like that... I was cringing watching that feeling it will break. No he is definitely referring to the 15 one he is currently holding.

Exactly! You cant test it, therefore you cant tell for sure, so don't say anything or say what you know: It FEELS quality, but Apples history shows it may NOT be quality, up to you (the viewer) to decide.

Exactly my point! its a shortcircuit, so build quality doesn't even need to be addressed! Why say big words like A+ for something you just took out of the box? Please watch at 4.15 He basically dismisses the fact that it flexes worse than a cheap netbook from 2010 by saying "its more flexible than the 13, but at the same time its an apple product, I am not surprised its an A, A+ build quality" So is the flex test a build quality test or not? If it is, why dismiss it by saying "dont worry this one flexes, its apple, therefore quality" if its not, why do it at all?

I have touched Surface tablets and macbooks and I agree Macbooks look and feel better build quality, but they are not. Same like someone can look like a good guy, but it turns out he is not. Alex saying they ARE A+ build quality, when in fact he can't know that just by holding it, is not very professional. He should absolutely acknowledge the feeling and the detail on the outside shell, but not call them "A+ buld quality" with apple's history of #gates.

It was on the most recent short circuit and I remember him saying something similar every time he covers macbooks. Yes, Macbooks LOOK LIKE they have excellent build quality, but Louis Rossmann (and others) have time and time again proved that they are in fact NOT well build, with design flows and issues on almost every SKU for years. Build quality means durability in people's mind and you can't tell a product is durable unless you stress test it (not always applicable) or use it for many years. Instead of "A+ build quality" it should be addressed as "feels/looks like it was build with attention" and Apples history with hardware flaws should be addressed at that point as a disclaimer. Same with the fact that Apple is the only company refusing to give 2 years warranty for any of their products, at least in EU where its forced by law. I wouldn't want to buy a macbook because Alex from LTT told me its "A+ build quality" only to find out it got flexgate, or the CPU died because apple put the 19v for the backlight next to the CPU vcore on the PCB.

I just watched the latest WAN show and it was my favorite so far. I always watch it (or just listen as a vod) and this time it was chef's kiss. At the jokes about oral in the car i was actually laughing out loud!! I think part of the funniness came from not expecting Linus to swear, but still, for the WAN audience (which I believe is more mature than the main LTT audience) I believe edgy WAN shows would be more enjoyable. So, what if during every week there was a crowfunding for that week's wan show? If the target amount is hit, we get an edgy WAN show. The target amount should be the average adsense earning of a WAN show. Or we can hope advertisers will realize that if people laugh and enjoy a show more with swear words, its more likely to feel positive for their product and not the opposite!

Wow I feel stupid now... It was the middle fan of my GPU! I thought I was wasting my time disconnecting the drives but nope... The noise was still there! It wasn't doing it in bios or safe mode because the GPU drivers with the fan profiles I have in afterburner weren't loading. I can't reproduce the grinding with a specific fan speed, but if I stopped the middle fan with my hand, it stopped the grinding and I could hear it putting my ear next to the GPU. Shitty Gigabyte fans for the second time for me... Gigabyte 980 G1? Fan dead 1 month before warranty ended (lucky) and now it seems I will have a dead fan soon on my 3080... Anyway thanks for changing my mindset and making me check everything. It really sounds exactly like my hard drive doing something!