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thats odd because on my old dell laptop my intel XTU profile persists without having to boot into XTU after every restart IM curious, for the profile to stay persistent do i also need to enable XTU to boot on startup ? or just the profile on startup ?

unfortunately i cant undervolt on the B360 chipset motherboard I tried using Intel XTU but it doesnt seem to hold the setting after a restart its not an issue for me, temps never go over 65c and i keep the power profile in Balanced mode, so it underclocks on idle

i never made the claim that i was overclocking I made this post because everyone assumed i was trying to overclock when really i was just asking questions about the all-core turbo speeds to which everyone said i was wrong and told me to spend more for a K part.

In my Define R5 case with the stock intel cooler i was getting temps of 85-95 under full load - But i was never thermal throttling. If i were you, i would go into the bios at reduce the turboboost to 4.00 ghz which should really help with the temps - or even disable intel turboboost until you can afford to upgrade you cpu cooler. in my own testing i was able to max out all my games on the stock 3.2ghz with turboboost disabled.

Thanks, i really hope more people see this before they run out and spend money on the K-sku chips. The only downside to using my B360 mobo is that i cant undervolt the I7-8700, i feel like 1.24v is a little unnecessary. Since you have a Z370 mobo, and if you have spare time, let me know if you can run the cpu at a lower voltage under full boost

I'm a bit of a scatter-brain so i apologize if this post has terrible flow and grammar issues

I’m writing this partly out of frustration, but mostly to inform/educate potential buyers – people who are interested in buying a new CPU and are on a tight budget - and may benefit from buying the intel I7-8700 as opposed to an overclockable I7-8700K. EDIT::: and/or if you need something that runs quiet and cool / doesnt consume much power. Right off the bat, there’s vast savings to be had by purchasing a regular i7-8700 – you don’t need to invest in a higher end z370 motherboard and you don’t need to purchase an aftermarket CPU cooler. I had already read this article from Gamers Nexus which mentioned the Intel Coffee Lake turbo behaviour in a easy to read chart – (see below). https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3077-explaining-coffee-lake-turbo-8700k-8600k Intel Coffee Lake Turbo Behavior i7-8700K i7-8700 i5-8600K i5-8400 i3-8350K i3-8100 6C/12T 6C/12T 6C/6T 6C/6T 4C/4T 4C/4T Intel Turbo Spec 1C: 4.7GHz 1C: 4.6GHz 1C: 4.3GHz 1C: 4.0GHz 4GHz Locked 3.6GHz Locked 2C: 4.6GHz 2C: 4.5GHz 2-4C: 4.2GHz 2-4C: 3.9GHz 3C: 4.5GHz 3C: 4.4GHz 5-6C: 4.1GHz 5-6C: 3.8GHz 4-5C: 4.4GHz 4-6C: 4.3GHz 6C: 4.3GHz TLDR: under a full six core load on the CPU, the maximum turbo speed on all six cores = 4.30 GHz. Intel’s spec for the 8700 is a 65W TDP but this is only for the base clock of 3.2 GHz. See the Wendell’s video where he goes on to mention that as soon as turbo boost kicks in that TDP can go much higher, in this case on all six cores as per Intel XTU as well, it can go up to 115W. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDFhVo8-UfM SO…with all the knowledge I knew that needed to purchase a new CPU, new Motherboard, and new RAM (as my old pc was a DDR3 based platform) and everything else I can re-use form my old pc. For the CPU knew I would benefit from the hyperthreading when working in premiere pro, and I knew the single core turbo of 4.6ghz would benefit me in adobe lightroom and other tasks in the OS in general. I was concerned that the 115W TDP under full boost may cause issues with lower end H310 and B360 motherboards and mediocre looking VRMs – so I started asking reviewers on amazon if they were able to hit the 4.3ghz 6core turbo without any issues….And literally every single response I got was something along the lines of: “no you idiot, you can not overclock the I7-8700, if you want higher clock speeds on all 6 cores, then get the i7-8700K and Z370 motherboard” Great….thanks captain obvious (unfortunately I received similar responses on the LTT forums) So anyways I bit the bullet as I didn’t see any mention of people complaining about not being able to hit turbo speeds. So, I went ahead and bought the MSI B360i ITX motherboard with an I7-8700 – and guess what, Gamers Nexus and Wendell from Lvl1tech were right. I was able to hit the 4.30 Ghz on all 6 cores with ease, (on the stock cooler) Now I personally wasn’t happy with the noise under load of the stock intel cooler. So I picked up a hyper 212 Evo. In conclusion my system: I7 8700, B360 mobo, 16GB ram, GTX 1060 6GB = I am happily able to max out all modern games at 1080p and can easily work with the large RAW files from my Sony A7iii with ease in the adobe suite. And I did not have to shell out more money for parts that ran hotter and consumed more power.

you dont have to mess with voltages or anything of that sort, theres a drop down menu in the MSI bios that has preset speeds/latencies availabile I have the same memory kit with a i7 8700 on an MSI B360i itx mobo - i personally would rather have tighter timings so i changed it to 2400mhz @ CL13 the higher speed option was 2666 @ CL15

very optimistic for you to assume that the games you will play in the future will support ray-tracing.

does your pc crash in any other applications? if not then...who cares....cinebench is not a priority...for anyone. unless you specifically built this pc JUST to run cinebench

it clearly shows the product photos that theres no HDMI port and the specs dont mention an HDMI port this motherboard does not have an HDMI port

UE Boom 2 and UE MEGABOOM , both sounds amazing

bottleneck in what? microsoft word? battlefield 5 in 8k? plex server? video editing 4k raw footage? storing photos?

well in the future everything will be even more efficient, no need for any single GPU system to have a large wattage PSU more than 650-700w

just fyi - im editing 4k S-LOG footage off my Sony A7iii with no issues on my i7-8700 (non K)....smoothly and at full res using regular SATA ssd's

like mentioned earlier, an all-core turbo of 4.3ghz results in a much higher TDP of around 100 watts on the cpu alone also im hoping to get 550-650 because it would allow for my psu to run at peak(ish) efficiency at a 50% load

appreciate the honestly, Also under a full load on all cores when im rendering video or exporting raw files / or even under a gaming load - the CPU turbo's to 4.3ghz on all 6 cores and the TDP in reality is closer to 100-115 watts.as apposed to the stock clock 65watt tdp Unfortunately TDP calculators on pcpartpicker dont take that into account. i have also found that not enouvh 500ish watt PSU have enough sata cables, and i plan on running a raid 1 setup for my archived content. (in addition to the existing drives)

i dont mind buying a higher wattage, just a little overkilll for my pc but now that i took a look into corsair, i see the RMx (2018) are all in my budget

how can you tell the two apart?

If yes, Please let me know what PSU you have been using. I am on the market for a new 550W - 650W PSU as the yateloon fan on my old corsair is permanently running at its max 2000+ rpm now and its way too loud I was initially going to try to replace the fan - but i personally am not comfortable with the risk of....dying... my budget is within $130 CAD (100 USD) and preferably 80+ gold. Currently looking at the Seasonic 650W Focus Plus Please dont just blurt out answers with PSU's that you have personally not used. Thanks edit: pc specs: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dgFxTB

or just see if you can plug the reset button into the power switch header on the mobo

can you just "short" the power button header on the mobo with a piece of metal? ie. screwdriver?