NaysWindu

Thanks for the feedback Main issue there is that I can't do a BIOS flash if the board doesnt have flashback. I'm coming from an i7 4770 and Z87 MOBO. Dont have access to any ryzen chips atm. I am pretty set on Trident-Z RGB ram tho, coz im a sucker for looks. There is an X470 board that I am looking at (reply above), which would probably let me shift my budget to get 3600Mhz CL16 RAM (Lower CL is better right?), but is that even worth it? Memory overclocking isnt too bad on Zen 2. Is the ram you recommended up there CL16 or CL18?

Hmm. Maybe I should go to an X470 board then. There was one for a bit cheaper available. Is literally the only thing for X570 is PCIe 4? Memory really has no impact? I'm looking at this one as an alternative: https://www.umart.com.au/Gigabyte-X470-Aorus-Ultra-Gaming-Socket-AM4-ATX-Motherboard_43545G.html I can ask them to flash the BIOS for me, so that shouldnt be a problem

So I'm now upgrading to ryzen 3000. With Black Friday currently on, I've managed to pick up the following deal: Total is AU$749 - or about $500US The MOBO was on sale for about 55 AU less that normal price. Is this an OK purchase? I spent a lot of time looking at X470, but I'm really not certain what the memory support was like. Most of the RAM that I was wanting to get wasn't verified for XMP on the X470 boards I was looking at. My max budget was 750 AU, and ive gone slightly over that if including shipping. I would have gotten better RAM if I could, but I figured I could just overclock the RAM to 3600 after I got it. If I've majorly screwed up, I still have time to cancel it. Thanks guys

Ok. at this point, ive given up. Ill probably just sell everything i can and upgrade to ryzen 3000. Thanks to those that replied :)

I set everything to max performanance in the cpanel. Currently have the 1080ti in.

Ok so I've tried my dads PSU now (EVGA Supernova 850G2) and there was no change. At this point I'm figuring that i should just sell everything for parts, and go for an x470+ryzen 3rd gen upgrade. Don't know if that would fix it tho Maybe I'm cursed? The only other possibility I can think of is that I have 2 bad motherboards. But that isn't likely. I also know that it isn't the gpus, as I've tried my dad's 970, and the issue persisted, but when booting on his system, it didnt.

So update: I recently got another monitor from a friend. I set it up and ran the same destiny test on it. I got a noticeable performance improvement (roughly 20-30 fps), but still not enough to account for the problem. My acer monitor is currently at acer support for a defective panel (well documented issue with the z271, i got it for super cheap so i didnt really mind) V-sync was off for both tests 3 monitors total acer z271- at support previous monitor - Dell s2409W (1920x1080) that I overclocked to 75Hz. Uses an HDMI connection. new monitor - Dell U2312M (1920x1200) that is overclocked to 62Hz. Uses display port. Couldn't push it any further :/ Maybe the connection standard makes a difference? That would suggest something power related? I don't really know I'll be testing the second power supply tonight. Hopefully it will show a difference

I did multiple driver re-installs using DDU. I'm assuming all Nvidea game ready drivers are WHQL signed? I even tried older drivers, with no discernible difference

Issue first occurred when i was running with only the corsair RAM. Only got the new set and tested it today, before posting. edit: also getting my hands on the other PSU might be a few days, as that computer is being used. An AX860 should be fine though right? PSU's dont normally cause these kind of issues?

The Coolermaster Hyper 212x is a pretty good option if u want a nice air cooler that isnt horrifically expensive

Hi Everyone. This is gonna be a big post TLDR: Weirdass stutting issues caused by neither the CPU nor GPU I have been experiencing various fps/hardware issues for the last couple of years. Normally, I chalked it up to my OS being bloated, or my GTX 970's terrible chip (lost hard in the silicon lottery) - (not using furmark anymore, due to its issues) Basically I couldn't apply an OC of more than 25 Mhz before I had stability issues, and I couldn't add more than about 3mV (I still have more to learn about overclocking so some more advice here would be nice ) Anyway, to the point of this post Recently, I was able to get my hands on both a 1080ti, and an Acer Predator z271, for a very good price. Once I had entered the realm of high refresh rate gaming, I began to notice some issues. 1 - Framerates in Esports games (specificially League of Legends), would get barely above 144 fps (vsync off) 2 - Framerates in AAA games were particularly bad in certain areas. This was most obvious and easiest to reproduce was in Destiny 2, where when loading into the Titan patrol zone, I would immediately hit 50 fps, and struggle to get above 60 when viewing the patrol zone. Looking away into the skybox would restore the framerate (but it would still be lower than expected). - 3dmark firestrike seems a little poor on the shared load score, but I am not sure about this one. - Issues are also observed in other games such as PUBG, Apex Legends, and especially in Battlefield 5 (mega stuttering). Now at different points, I've been able to get replacement parts for almost everything in my system, and have tried every possible configuration I have also done multiple fresh installs of windows 10, and have used DDU several times when changing out GPUs. GPUs are always in either the adaptive, or max performance state through the Nvidea control panel. Slashes have been used when there have been 2 components available. I've abbreviated names where possible, but the experience members in the community should know the parts I am talking about CPU - Intel i7 4770 / Intel i5 4690 (dont currently have) GPU - EVGA GTX 970 FTW (first model) / ASUS strix 1080ti Gaming Motherboard - Gigabyte Z87-HD3 / Asrock Z87-Extreme4 RAM - Corsair Vengeance DDR3 @2400Mhz 2x8GB / Strontium SIRT4G86U1 DDR3 @1333Mhz 2x4GB Drives - Corsar Force LS 240GB SSD, WDGreen 480GB SSD, Seagate Barricude 2TB HDD (not plugged in right now) CPU Cooler - Intel Stock Cooler/ CoolerMaster Hyper 212X PSU - Corsair AX860 I have attatched a HWinfo page on the current setup. Only thing that isn't so good is the RAM, but the issue will persist even with the corsair RAM back in. I have also changed case in all of this, but most tests have happened with the side panels removed. Everything left of the slash was in the original configuration when the issue was first noticed (as far back as 1.5 years ago) Firestrike tests: GTX 970 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20035300 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20032812 GTX 1080ti https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20032380 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19948252 All tests have been attempted all of the possible hardware configurations from the list above. I have attempted running windows of different drives, and even running them by themselves. Issue 2 occurs regardless of if the 970 or the 1080ti is being used. Similar framerates with both at the same game settings. TEMPS ARE COMPLETELY UNDER CONTROL. Neither CPU not GPU have risen above 70C for any of this. ALSO - Neither CPU Nor GPU are at 100% in either of the tests (except 3dmark, but in the Shared test they were both chilling around 70% usage) I have also taken the boot SSD with Destiny on it, and run it on my dad's computer, with the same destiny 2 test. His computer had no issues, and was rock solid with the framerates (didnt dip below 60 (had v-sync on) (my issue occurs regardless of v-sync on or off)) His specs - CPU - Intel i7 6700k GPU - EVGA GTX 970 SC RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2x8GB (not sure what its clocked at) M'Board - Gigabyte z-170 Gaming 7 Drive - just the WD green drive from my system PSU - EVGA Supernova 850G2 CPU cooler - Some tower cooler with 2 fans. Looks beefy enough I've just about given up. The only option that I have left is to try out my dad's PSU in my system, to see if that fixes anything. I doubt it will make a difference, but its the only component that hasn't changed that was part of the original system. All values and temps were recorded using MSI afterburner. If there is demand, I can run the tests again, and record the logs or something, and include them in this post. I am coming to you guys, because this is the most amazing tech community out there, and I've seen so many people get help when they needed it. I'm gonna be out for a couple of hours from when I post this, but when I get back, I'll start doing thing suggested, if there are any. Sorry for the long post. If there are any bits of information that need to be added, let me know, and I'll add them Love you all. DESKTOP-C3I1BCM.HTM

I did this in the original screenshots? And this still doesn't address the original problem

You'll notice that the temps are still well below targets. Throttling isn't an issue.

Well here it is full default now, still with the slider there. The card seems to be boosting up, but look at the frame rates. Almost half of what they were in the original screenshots (same stress test). No idea why. Had this new framerate reduction issue regardless of temp or power focus. CPU was not under load.EDIT: Furmark does say 4x MSAA instead of 2x. trying to fix now. It wouldn't let me change it.

WOAH Just had a huge improvement when I changed the priority tab to temp over power in EVGA Precision. Maybe that was the issue? I'll report back if the issue persists

Hi guys. I'm back with another issue Recently, I have felt like my frame rates in games have been problematic. Some games have stuttery fps, others require me to run at low settings when I used to run at high. I decided to look into it, and upon checking EVGA Precision, it looked as if my clock rates were a bit low. I ran furmark, and checked, and saw that my gpu was barely boosting up and past to the base clock. Images attached below. If anyone can help diagnose this, that'd be fantastic . I have provided a link to the spec sheet of my gpu, for reference vs my actual clocks. https://www.evga.com/products/specs/gpu.aspx?pn=63d27a41-4ac9-49f6-9fd2-757596181cff System specs: Intel i7 4770 Nvidia GTX 970 EVGA FTW Gigabyte GA-z87-HD3 Running with 2 HDD's and a 240GB SATA SSD Corsair AX 860 If there are any specs missed that are important, let me know and I'll edit them in. Photo of low clocks, at default on card, and then when overclocked. As of me taking these screenshots, it was doing a little better, but still well under the advertised boost clock. I rate 3.5/4:

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE! Thermal compound in, and temps are WAY better. I was having some issues with it not booting, but it turns out it was due to the HDD i also installed not initialising or something. Disconnected it and got into windows fine. Here's a screenshot of the temps under full load now. Looks like thermal compound is super important! I definitely learnt a lesson lol. Thanks so much guys for helping with troubleshooting and offering advice

Wow ok. Didn't think that thermal paste was so critical. I knew it was important, but not to that extent! I'll apply some tomorrow, and I guess I'll reply back with what the results are. I'm actually doing a full system upgrade in about 3 months :). I'll be getting a new cooler then.

I'll be able to get some tomorrow (dont have any atm). But shouldnt the stock cooler be able to handle it on its own, even without compound. Like, i was throttling just now even in a low demand game like league. (at medium settings)

Yeah it appears to be when I look at it. It could sometimes be a little loud, but i figured that that was normal for a stock cooler. I also think that Fan1 in the hardware monitor might also be the CPU fan If it helps, im currently running LoL in practice tool, and the game is extremely stuttery. (frametimes all over the place). And the sound occasionally drops out too.

Hi there. Im in need of help Earlier today, I was trying to play some PUBG, and I noticed a significant drop in FPS (avg 22 fps @ low-medium settings). At the time, I thought nothing of it (normally get 60-90fps), as it had occurred a few times, but was normally fixed with a restart, which I did. However, the problem persisted. I alt tabbed and checked my CPU temps in OpenHardwareMonitor, and to my shock, my CPU was running at 97-99 degrees Celcius, implying that it was thermal throttling. I downloaded Aida64, and ran a stress test, and was told that my CPU was thermal throttling at around 12% (first time using aida64). At the time my motherboard speaker wasn't plugged in. I figured that maybe i forgot to put thermal compound in when I built it 4 years ago, but I haven't had any problems until now. I opened up my case, and saw that my CPU cooler (stock intel 4th gen) was filled with dust. I figured this was what was causing the throttling. I also cleared out a bunch of dust, and plugged in my case's included speaker (that I'd obviously forgotten about). Loaded back in, ran aida64's stress test. No improvement, and I was now throttling at 14%, with the motherboard speaker emitting a constant tone when the throttling occured. Any help would be much appreciated System Specs: CPU: Intel i7-4770 (stock cooler) GPU: NIVDIA GTX 970 (EVGA FTW) (ACX 2.0) MB: Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 RAM: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 2x8GB @2400Mhz PSU: Corsair AX 860 Case: NZXT Guardian 921b Storage - 1x Corsair Force LS 240GB SSD, 1 Seagate Barricude 1TB HDD, 1 WD 1.5 TB HDD, and my laptop's old 2.5" HDD (320GB) Images: System under load with speaker tone on. Idle temps (surprisingly high):

nice work Frag_Attack!

Hello. New person here! Vessel username - NaysWindu Woohoo titan SLI is OP OP https://www.vessel.com/videos/JemZ8O7Hy No Nvidea support on the LG monitor.. https://www.vessel.com/videos/G-DUjgUyY I look forward to finally becoming active on the forums!