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I would have been thinking about doing a build with a front 240mm radiator, and use a SFX psu. If I could do a custom loop with my EK pump/res combo, 2x 240mm rads, and my current waterblocks, I'm sold. I've done the math and the pump would technically fit in the space between the GPU and the top of the case. I could make my own custom bracket to place it on if necessary, and if I'm going that far, I could also technically make my own SFX rear bracket too, but if it were included/optional, it would be easier. On a case this size, front I/O is inconsequential. If I had to pick one, USB is more useful.

My old specs: i7 4770K, 16GB DDR3, Asrock z97m pro4, raid0 840 evos. Average boot times, 5 seconds. My new specs: i7 5930K, 32GB DDR4, Asrock x99m Killer, the same 840 evos. Average boot times, between 13 and 20 seconds. In case it's important I am using a 780 ti for my gpu I'm getting the times from the windows 8.1 startup tab in the task manager. after setting everything to boot as fast as possible, (asrock has 3 settings, normal, fast boot, and ultra fast boot), the boot times are still more than twice as slow as the were previosly. A few things seem different, on the z97 platform, it would warn that the fast boot and above are so fast that you have to reset cmos or use asrock desktop utility to get into the UEFI. The X99 board doesn't say that. Related, it shows the keyboard options in the bottom right on my screen when in POST, when the z97 platform didn't show these with fast boot on. Is there some fundamental difference between x99 and z97? Is this just my life now? It feels like such a bummer since I spent so much money and the benefits haven't even had a chance to show, just this.

Speaking as an Enthoo Evolv owner I do not like the side ports or even the side power buttons. I would ask that they either put the ports on the front or nowhere. I voted against any ports at all, on a case this small, there is no need to have "convenient" front I/O when the rear I/O will be as accessible, at least in the manner I plan on using this case: on my desk next to my monitor. I have a DasKeyboard 4 Ultimate with 2 USB3 ports on the top of the keyboard. I don't see me using the front I/O for anything really. Subjective I know, but I want a case that makes no sacrifices for slimness and I want the looks that go with it.

I believe you misunderstood my description of the rotation, I was wondering if you rotate the HDD bracket about it's yaw and scoot it further away from the PSU.

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Impressive. I could see this working for a lot of people. How will an SFX(-L) PSU mount to that bracket? (I have never owned an SFX PSU) That pick makes me assume the orientation is that the cable side is on the left in the pic. Is this case design any larger than the prototype? is the HDD bracket on the swing arm too? If so I like that idea, it just feels nice. The only thing I don't like is that in a case this small, I would prefer to have custom length power cables. with the PSU on the swing arm like that, I intended to remove the cabling everytime I needed to open it up, but with that bracket in the way, it would make that a rather fussy mess. I think I see your justification for putting the PSU that far from the back panel, you perhaps want to leave room for that 92mm fan. Maybe an SFX PSU might leave more room. Would it be possible to rotate that bracket such that the bottom of the HDDs are facing the front of the case?

I had not even considered using one of these. I wonder if any cpu mounted pump is up to the task of pushing through 3 waterblocks and 4x120 rads (or maybe even 3 if we're going for size here). The metric I am using is "can I do this in an M1?" so anything where the answer is no is obviously not a waste of its potential I just wasn't being very general. That sounds awesome. I'm glad we had the same idea. I would think a bracket that attaches via those little silicone screw washers would be a good balance between noise dampening, removability, and cost of production. For an example of what I mean, my current case, the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv uses these with its SSD mounts behind the motherboard (though it's unnecessary since SSDs don't vibrate). As for placement, having it attach to the same panel that the motherboard does is ideal as long as it doesn't block the use of any fans or rads that you'd want to use with it. Again, the only way to make that work is to pick some exemplary pump/res combo and build it to support at least that, as you have done in the past. Here's the best part, I personally could not afford to do a custom loop. Even if you could somehow manage it, I simply could not do it the way I wanted on the budget I have right now. One day I will and I hope to use a case like this to do it in, I just like to fantasize about these things, you know? In reality I talk about two different cases, one that is as small as possible for air cooling, and another for watercooling. For the actual case that I intend to buy, I would want you to make it as small as possible for air cooling. The prototype was brilliant, If I could change it in any way, I would make the bottom smaller. I have no want for loud HDDs or fans and am willing to sacrifice the disk space for it. If you have to make the case bigger to support ATX, I would prefer you not support it. SFX is good enough and I will live happily with the PSU fan wailing for mercy as I push that thing to its limit. If I wanted a bigger, more silent PSU, I'd get a bigger case. This is not to say that I think you are wasting your time trying out the ATX option or optimizing for cooling performance. I appreciate your work, and wouldn't mind waiting a while for a case that Kimera Industries says is as quality as they can reasonably make it. I also want to clarify that if you can manage these options without compromise, they would certainly be welcome. But I want to bring up something I said briefly at first. I find the Nova's lack of support for many things a feature. In a world where all products must appeal to as broad of an audience as possible, that is VERY appealing to me. It is not a weakness to do one thing so well that you cannot do all the other things also. I also understand that you want this product to appeal to as many people as possible because you have a business that is just getting started. I would understand the business decision of making room for HDDs simply because it would make the case appeal to a wider audience.

Very well, you asked for it, so I caved and made an account. Your site mentions watercooling (for the very brave) and you claim to support a specific reservoir, however there is no way to put a pump in the case without giving up a GPU or something important. (BTW i consider that a strength of your current design, I really like your approach of doing one thing really well and to hell with anything else that it cant do; efficient!) This is crazy because if you're not going to do a dual GPU setup, it would be a waste of the potential of this case! however... Aiboh's recent post that included the ATX PSU got me thinking... what about a design with an SFX PSU in a similar position? The idea being with a few minor concessions in size, we might be able to support a fully internal CPU and 2xGPU custom watercooling loop. To start we would need to move the SFX PSU to above the CPU as you've been playing around with. Perhaps we could even put it on a similar mounting bracket as what you have right now with the AIO coolers, that way, if you need to work on something, you unplug the cables from the PSU and swing it out. The next step is to make a bracket that is attached to the top and/or back side panel of the case in which you could place a small pump/res combo. Pick out a popular to support as you did with that reservoir. the only thing left is to make sure there is enough clearance to route wires and tubing and for the rads, (I imagine this bracket might also be where we stick our SSDs but lets be honest: if I have the money for this, I could probably be bothered to upgrade to M.2). To me, this would mean: make the top of the PSU rest flush with the top of the mobo the pumpres sit flush with the front of the mobo and as close to the access side panel as common right angle fittings allow. there would need to be an increase in size to allow for clearance for the GPU waterblock connections, this might prove handy later.* the last component is to allow for at least 2*240 (4x120 is a good floor for this many components) slim rads and fans on the front and the either the top or the bottom, (but not both), I'm leaning towards the bottom but it might be up to cooling performance. not necessarily a requirement, but you would probably be daft not to use custom length cabling. finally we reach the problems/unknowns for me. Clearly this is not meant for practicality, so it would be WAY harder of a sell than the current implementation of the Nova that you were already worried about because... ... it would cost more to assemble the case since there are now a few more pieces and... ... this design likely precludes the use of most AIOs and aftermarket heatsinks if you don't want to build a custom loop. (although you seem confident that it wouldn't in previous posts, I still consider it a mark against this design) This is likely pushing what's capable of an SFX PSU, pretty much no headroom. I have a feeling that the pump in the spot that it would be in would prevent access to the RAM on most builds. I think that would mean that the loop would have to be drained and the pump and possibly that bracket on which it sits be removable. This would be a PAIN to leaktest IMO. I know this has a snowballs chance in hell and if I ever wanted a case like this, odds are I'd be using protocase myself, but damn it if it wouldn't be the sickest build ever. BTW totally psyched about the Nova anyway, count me in.