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hoodyracoon

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  1. As said before it's more efficient to update to a new platform, but I'll add my 2 sense, I would suggest getting a cheap used xeon off ebay something like a 1240-1270 and getting you hyper threading something cheaper and more likely to help then overclocking a 4 thread part Going price seems to be 50 right now for a 4c/8t Xeon and should let you pull a bit more life out of the system, hell if you look around you can get a full system under 120, a few years back I got a Dell 1600 with 16gb ram, 1tb hdd, and a Xeon 1270 for 115,
  2. Well yes as can a GTX 250, depends on what your playing and the settings, new AAA games wouldn't run a max settings at 144hrz on a 970, is max settings a requirement? That is a different discussion I guess depends on the person and what they want, I was starting my option to best use his money and existing hardware, his issue is specifically running a server while playing a game, I find the cheapest option to fix his issue is just to swap the CPU out, that will certainly fix the server issue and all my fps reading were at stock cpu speeds if he overclocks I'm near certain he can get 144 fps in almost all games on that platform
  3. It's not up for 144hrz agreed, still solidly able to do 75hrz in most games and 100+ hrz in anything slightly lighter, as far as his aim it's overwatch, fortnight and csgo and all those I've had experience with being over 100 fps, csgo and fortnite being 150+ Either way he has a 970 he can't run a 144hrz display anywaysas such the gpu is the bigger issue, minus his server performance getting better(something a slight overclock and a 30$ used CPU will fix for cheaper) it won't increase fps at all to upgrade the motherboard and cpu So it make more sense to just upgrade his existing CPU IMHO and put his money towards a way better gpu
  4. Duh, didn't read, my point stands either way but(since I didn't read) it make no sense for him since he has a x58 board anyhow, but I would recommend upgrading to a 6core Xeon then for about 30-40$ and overclocking it to 4-4.5ghz and buying a better GPU The 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads should help him run servers on the backend and is more efficient money wise since he can get more performance today if he just upgrades the GPU and swaps the CPU, and goes all in on the rest of the system when he gets the money
  5. Edit(mostly)disregard my comment because I don't read it seems IDKmaybe I'm weird but I've always been a opponent of buying a really old workstation with a high You made a list with no gpu, given that's a ryzen non Apu that makes the system a non starter for a new PC builder with no parts to pull from, Anyways I've always been a proponent of buying a really old xeon workstations circa 2010 to 2013 since they cost less then 150 most of the time and contain everything you need except for a GPU and throwing in the most expensive GPU you can fit, it's just better bang for the buck, and when you upgrade later you can just toss the whole system, For example a Dell t1500 is around 100-1500 for a 6core/12thread Xeon at 3.5ghz 24GBs of ram a 550 watt PSU and that leaves 500$ for the gpu and storage, and while I don't use it anymore mine with a 1070 gets well over 110 fps in overwatch 1080p max settings at 1080p and a solid 60+ in anything I've tried normally around 80-90, 80ish avg in battlefield 1 if that's a better benchmark
  6. Looking around I've started to see complete good condition dell precision's going about 450 for a 4c/8t Skylake Xeon and a workstation GPU WITH tb3 support and 16-32GBs ram(saw one with 48GBs ram going for 500 as well) and around 300 for one missing a nvme drive or ram, idk seeMs cheap as hell for laptop with tb3 just a year back 800-1200 was the cheapest I could find, I guess companies are finally starting to discontinue first gen thunderbolt 3 laptops I guess? Idk thought it would interested community, while niche they do have their use cases and 500 isn't bad for a good condition laptop with External gpu support
  7. thinking more my only ideas are bad nvram, bad bios chip, or a capacitor thats on the edge of working, not enough to keep if from booting clearly but maybe restart?idk
  8. was just updating the post to say i had, forgot to add that since its so obvious
  9. rando comment, but ive got a asus p6x58-e ws, anyways if its shut off or restarted it has to be removed from power for about 10 mins or it wont post(fully removed either the psu switch flipped or unplugged), any clue why? weirdest thing i've seen in a while, its a second pc meant for messing around so its no biggie, anyways its not ram, tried all 6 six slots with multiply different ram sticks, not the cpu tired 3 different ones, not the gpu tried 3, psu is only 2 months old, changed cmos battery its all good, tried it with no cmos battery same issue, idk maybe its a bad bios chip? ideas? this is mostly because its weird a fix is nice but not needed
  10. apple has always had none apple hardware as against tos, but as a said i understand why the forum is different
  11. Just a random observation, but i have noticed that the forum forbids speaking in much detail about hackintoshes, emulation, and other legal grey areas(not really a place i would talk of such things anyhow, and never had myself). but LTT has videos on those exact things, both a hackintosh and a MAME arcade cabinet,while i understand why( it's easier to just blanket not allowing the topics then deal with the individual legality of each topic posted, something pretty hard to do and time consuming, and have to deal with dmca requests with even legal topics) it still seems slightly hypocritical, but thats just observation, and like i said i do understand why
  12. Way over priced, but if you just get oem stuff(mostly looks ugly though ) it can still be cheap, as a stated about that dell t3500, and since im running a xeon overclock potential is minimal anyways
  13. also since these are oem units they come with win 7 keys either on the case or at least in the slick of the bios, and it's not hard to call up Microsoft for a free upgrade to 10 by saying it's your mom or grandmas computer and they use assistive tech like voice over because they are losing there sight, done this for 3 friends and it's work ever time so far, till they stop doing upgrades for people with disability's
  14. i understand, i just like to put it out there, most people either think a 5 year old computer can't run new games(intel, if your on that old of a amd good luck) or has just never thought of it before, while i understand the feeling of building one with new high end parts it's not really needed for games at the moment(gpu's don't last as long though and prices don't change enough to make them a good deal used online, find a good deal on craigslist and maybe you have something, ebay not so much), till pcie 4.0, breaks the over 10 year compatibility we've had for gpu's, man i hope there are 3.0 to 4.0 pcie risers
  15. it's ebay you have to hunt around, and sort by price + shipping, for the t3500 i was including that in my 120$
  16. yeah did look at that, if you look at t3500 alot have free shipping
  17. not bad at all, these workstations were given big psu's so the could run high end video cards for cad and the like, but the second cpu wont help much in game(unless you turn of HT) since games won't use 16 threads
  18. i would go for 1366, price difference is minor to 775 and the cpu's can still hold up to modern games without bottlenecks, a w3550 is only 11$ for example and that is a 4 core 8 thread chip, and a old oem rig like a dell t3500 can be had for around 120$ with a 525W pw supply and 8GB of ecc memory with a gtx 970 and that cpu i get this performance for example Overwatch-80-120 FPS MAX Settings 1080P BF1 Beta-75-100 FPS Max Settings 1080P(i think it was acting buggy not applying my AA setting when i tested that, so that might be the FPS for Ultra with no AA) DOOM 55-80 FPS MAX settings(mostly hovered at 65 FPS rare dips below 60)
  19. i just dont see the hate on old workstation hardware, cpu's(speed) have long since not been the bottleneck for most AAA game(within reason, q6600 are to old for example), the ones left are are mostly the GPU, RAM, and CPU thread count. going for old hardware would give you the threads necessary to run most games while also giving you an entire pc(no gpu) that costs less then a cpu actually needed to run real CPU intensive games. my current "gaming" pc subsists of a t3500, and a w3550 with 8GB ram and a included 525W power supply for a total platform cost of around 120$ US, or 150$ CAD, and a gtx 970. if the gpu is replaced you can easily get a gpu that can do high-max setting at 1080P 60 fps with the rest of the budget. for example of the performance i get, Overwatch-80-120 FPS MAX Settings 1080P BF1 Beta-75-100 FPS Max Settings 1080P(i think it was acting buggy not applying my AA setting when i tested that, so that might be the FPS for Ultra with no AA) DOOM 55-80 FPS MAX settings(mostly hovered at 65 FPS rare dips below 60) this will all be pointless in 2.5-4 years when pcie 4.0 comes out since it wont work in pcie 3.0 slots, but i don't see why buying a old pc off ebay wouldn't be a option since it can basically be used as a hold over for better parts when you get the money
  20. that dual core isn't really the best option, a lot of games don't play well with lower the 4 cores(or threads) now, as much it sucks that Pentium is a best a hold over, and will bottleneck quite a few games. 3-4 years back it would have been fine.
  21. take a look at my ebay build guide, right around your price range but in us prices, but for the most part sellers ship to Canada so it should work fine
  22. they are for the most part different line ups of cpus, sometimes different architectures sometime not about the only good way to tell the difference is by looking it up on ark. here is every 4&6 core with hyper threading for 1366 that was made http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?s=t&SocketsSupported=FCLGA1366&CoreCountMin=4&ThreadCountMin=8 it pretty easy to figure out the best one and look up the price on ebay, the problem being the best ones cost between 100-300$
  23. 1st question - the e series xeons are not bad, they are just either lower clocked then what i put up or more expensive the some of the other options, 2nd question- just the cpus cost way more then they should, around 100$ for a 4 core with no hyper threading for 70$ you can get a 8 core based on the same architecture so it really doesnt make much sense price to performance wise,
  24. the used parts are not sold anymore, and they are around 50% cheaper to buy as a package then to buy separately, and yes it would allow you to customize more if you built a new pc from scratch, but it would cost 4-5x the price for similer performance. price breakdown dell t3500 90$-110$ -motherboard l new 70$-120$ -case(ugly) l 10$-30$ -includes 575w gold rated powersupply(dell branded) l to buy new would cost around 55$ -6-16GB of ram l new would cost 10$-30$ a replacement cpu -w3550(about to something between a fx 6300(100$) and fx 8350) l costs only 11$ so the cost difference to a pc with close performance is 100$-120$ for the dell t3500 vs between 240$-385$ for the same performance on a new amd rig(not recommending them till zen comes out, just have close performance)
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