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2 hours ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

BIOS, but I like to keep things simple. Flat line until 85c and it never gets anywhere near there in normal operation. But I have a different cooler, different case and different CPU.

Alright I did some playing around in BIOS and CPU temps are maxing at around 77-78, which I guess is alright and the fans aren't ramping up as much as before.

Been out of the game for a while, is there a cooler that is specifically recommended for these chips over the DRP4?

1 minute ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Seems to me this could be a few things. 

 

• Better case airflow. 
• Expectation adjustment of what's "ok" and what's "too hot". 
• Fan curve relaxing. 

I have a Torrent so plenty of through case airflow and a 7800x3D with an Assassin IV that doesn't see over 60c in games. The PC is also silent as I don't really run a "curve", just a flat 40% PWM until 85C which I only see during all core workloads. The DRP4 is notoriously bad with modern Zen4 chiplet designs but wasn't terrible with Zen3, though awful if you take into account how much they used to charge for it. 

Yeah the airflow isn't great, it's harder than one thinks to find a normal looking ATX case with good airflow that doesn't have unneccesary things such as a glass panel  (which I don't need) and RGB. I think every case I've found locally (small country Northern Europe) that has good airflow (not a restricive front panel) has expensive glass side panels as well. But like I said the temps aren't dangerous but I do need to have a bit of an aggressive fan profile to keep it that way especially with the front fans. I'd rather stay below the mid 80s low 90s if at all possible and not have a jet engine on my desk.
I do have an old glass panel Phanteks which was annoyingly bulky though, but it might work.
Are you using a program for your fan curve or just in BIOS?
Maybe swapping out the cooler would be a good start then if the DRP4 is known to have issues with this CPU design.

6 minutes ago, filpo said:

what's your fan layout in the case? Additional fans could make quite a difference. I had the same problem in my new itx build with my 5600 going to 90 degrees while gaming on the stock cooler. I added three fans (two intake, one exhaust) and temps dropped to 60 while gaming. Try adding some fans to the case (mostly intaking, if it's exhausting then at the back of the case)

 

Same thing with my itx build. Thermal paste wasn't completely on my 5600's side so I repasted and tried again and temps dropped again by 5 degrees. Not huge but I do recommend trying since it also allows you to remount your cpu cooler if you hadn't done it before

2  140s intake and one 140 exhaust.

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

What're your temps now? the Dark Rock Pro 4 is quite a good cooler so it shouldn't have a problem cooling the 5800X3D. What does your thermal paste application look like and how is mounting pressure?

 

it wouldn't help as much as you'd think. Air coolers have gotten quite good nowadays (this benchmark is on a hotter CPU)

Right now when just messing around on the internet watching Youtube it's just below 50C .
When in game like RDR2 for instance, temps both on CPU and GPU (3090) are kinda the same, hovering around 70-73 and fans spinning at the same speed throughout. In a more CPU heavy or higher frame rate game such as for instance Outer Worlds, or one of the more recent Sherlock Holmes games, I see the CPU jump up to 80 and the fans become much more aggressive.  GPU temps don't rise that much.

I would think if the paste or mounting pressure was the issue then it would be happening way more often and higher temps.
 

I recently changed cases to a more minimalistic case without glass panel. The market for those here where I live is small and getting smaller I settled on pretty much the only option which was the BeQuiet PureBase 500 with a solid panel. It also has a solid front panel with some mesh gaps on the sides and temps are....OK actually for the most part. I'm using a beefy Dark Rock Pro 4 to cool my 5800x3D and it's doing a good job in cooling it and keeping it well below any dangerous temps but I do have a quite an aggressive fan curve. I'm wondering, would an AIO such as the Arctic Liquid Freezer 240 in an top mounted exhaust orientation maybe work better for the CPU in a case like this?

On 2/4/2022 at 8:03 PM, rotexen said:

I have the same monitor but i never use g sync ,dont use g sync its better

Set image OD on normal

And dont overclock it to 165hz keep it a 144

Any reason why to keep it at 144?

On 1/27/2022 at 8:46 PM, Previll said:

Did you ever manage to find out the issue? I have it, too

Nope, I just put it down to burn in. Replaced the monitor eventually on a black friday deal.

Can a mod please move this to the GPU forum. Thanks.

52 minutes ago, Bartholomew said:

Should be enough, and those are good units, I'm running RMx 850 with 3900x and 3090, never had a restart or CTD.

 

Interesting development. I just had a BSOD while browsing. Dump file analyzis :

This was probably caused by the following module: nvlddmkm.sys (nvlddmkm+0xDF59B1)
Bugcheck code: 0xC2 (0x46, 0x1000000, 0x0, 0x0)
Error: BAD_POOL_CALLER
file path: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispig.inf_amd64_d87fa867f2900f50\nvlddmkm.sys
product: NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 511.17
company: NVIDIA Corporation
description: NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 511.17
Bug check description: This indicates that the current thread is making a bad pool request.
This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
A third party driver was identified as the probable root cause of this system error. It is suggested you look for an update for the following driver: nvlddmkm.sys (NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 511.17 , NVIDIA Corporation).

Driver installed after DDU uninstall.

3 minutes ago, Bartholomew said:

Should be enough, and those are good units, I'm running RMx 850 with 3900x and 3090, never had a restart or CTD.

 

Yeah I've never had any issues with it and while in game I'm running at around 370W and 75W for GPU and CPU based on metrics from Afterburner. I'm in game right now and have been since making this thread and so far no issues. I've only once encountered a faulty GPU and that behaved differently to this.

Hey all I'm facing an issue I don't remember ever having before. I recently upgraded from 1080Ti to a 3080 (Gainward Phantom GS+) and in the past few weeks I've been having some issues when playing RDR2 and MSFS(2020) that the game crashes to desktop. However just now I had a reboot where the game first crashed to desktop and then the PC restarted. There were some lights in the row of error lights but I couldn't see exactly which one but but it might have been DRAM and then VGA or the other way around. I'm not having any other issues with the GPU so far, no artifacts or errors during regular use or when playing lesser demanding games. Temps are fine (below 70 on both CPU and GPU) so I'm wondering if its possible that my RMx 850 isn't enough?
 

Thanks

Oh oh some progress! It does appear that it could be burn in. The line is a the same spot as the bookmarks bar in Firefox and I can see now for the first time a few bookmarks in this black line.

Buuuut it does appear to be only visible on desktop.....

So, I posted a while back to no responses about seeing a black or gray bar at the top or near the top of my ROG PG279Q panel. Anyone know what this is and how to fix it?
Of course something like this happens just AFTER the panel goes out of warranty from my local retailer. Might still be covered by Asus but I'm not sure.

Anyone?

Any ideas?

I might message Asus support soon about this and see what what they have to say.

This is disappointing to see. I changed my background to default Windows 10 and I can see the black bar....I hope my screen didn't get faulty the moment it fell out of warranty :(

I should add that I was playing Stick of Truth (lots of colours making the bar easier to see) but it's capped at 30fps. Could that be causing this? Cause the games I mostly see this is before playing this has been the older Assassins Creed games which are often capped at around 60

I have been using the PG279Q for well over 2 years and recently I noticed there is a dark (gray or black) bar at the top of the screen that I only really see when I'm gaming with G-Sync on in some games. It flickers when I move the mouse or move in the game. I've not managed to see this happen during other regular Windows use. I think I can still see the black bar in game when I disable G sync but that might be my eyes tricking me lol.

Has anyone ever seen this before and has any solutions?  I'm attaching a video of the issue from in game.

My specs:
R9 3900x

x370 C6H (x570 upgrade pending)

Asus Strix GTX 1080Ti

I have the S10+ which is overkill for my needs and should last me for few more years. Honestly, I probably wont buy another flagship phone again, it really isn't worth it and pretty much a waste of money.

3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

It was a joke referencing AMD "fans" not fans.

 

Lol

 

Ahhh....gotcha. They have the right to be a bit obnxious with years of AMD being derided haha

16 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

I can confirm, AMD fans are obnoxiously loud.

On the x570 chipset? I doubt they are made by AMD themselves.....

8 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

You'll hear the GPU fans long before the chipset. There's multiple and much much larger. Same for the Cpu.

 

The issue is that small fans on chipsets, when spinning 100%, create a higher pitched sound than a large bladed fan. This doesn't mean it's really "loud" or "louder" than the other fans, it's just a different pitch/tone. 

Good good, that high pitched noise is exactly what I'm worried about cause oh I remember the days when tiny little noisy as all hell fans where pretty common on motherboards. Good thing we're not quite back to those times

8 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

The fan is more of a fail safe while the Chipsets on 500 series boards are 15 watts opposed to 400 and earlier models of 5 watts.

 

15 watts isn't much to cool, the heatsinks are just big enough to actually need the fan.

 

They implemented the fans because it was cheaper and kept the heatsink smaller.

 

Most people will never experience the chipset fan at full throttle while most run typically cool and running only one Gpu.

So it shouldn't be running loud or at all during gaming for instance with a 1080Ti or 2080Ti ? Or at the very least be drowned out by the other fans in the system.

I have the same concerns. Really want the C8H but wonder if the fan will be audible over my 4 rad fans and one exhaust

Ahhh I want a new motherboard for my 3900x soon! My C6H has started to show it's age a little bit. The latest BIOSes are a bit wonky at times and my local store just got the C8H in stock, very pricey though and I have concerns about the chipset fan.

Any advice? Is x570 worth the upgrade from x370?