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    WereCat got a reaction from The Mohawk in After all the advice...   
    Regardless if you're going to use exhaust or intake I'd suggest to use fans in a pull configuration so that fans pull air trough the radiator rather than push it... if that makes sense.
    You will lose a bit of static pressure but it's far easier to clean with less dust accumulation. It's up to you really, I'm just suggesting it from lazy point of view 😄 
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    WereCat reacted to Agall in Ryzen 7 7800x or Ryzen 7 7800x3D   
    You have an R5 3600 with 128GB of RAM??
     
    7800x3D and 3D v-cache in general is wonderful in any multiplayer game with the way CPU draw calls on player positioning works. Generally you'll see far higher minimum framerates and therefore a higher average framerate while also being a lot smoother. I test this myself with the 7950x3D, which I can reconfigure to the 7800x3D or 7700x with a restart.
     
    Unless you've got a really low end B450 motherboard, a drop in 5800x3D and a better GPU would probably be better suited than jumping onto AM5.
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    WereCat got a reaction from GOTSpectrum in Ryzen 7 7800x or Ryzen 7 7800x3D   
    You will need a new motherboard and RAM as well if you go for 7000 series. Just get 5800X3D, no need to change platforms.
     
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    WereCat got a reaction from will0hlep in After all the advice...   
    Regardless if you're going to use exhaust or intake I'd suggest to use fans in a pull configuration so that fans pull air trough the radiator rather than push it... if that makes sense.
    You will lose a bit of static pressure but it's far easier to clean with less dust accumulation. It's up to you really, I'm just suggesting it from lazy point of view 😄 
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    WereCat got a reaction from will0hlep in After all the advice...   
    It does not really matter.
     
    Intake on radiator will make the temp on CPU a little bit lower but it's not necessary. Really mount it as it makes most sense to you depending on where the case will be located. IMO I'd rather have cooler GPU than CPU so I prefer CPU rad as an exhaust. There is always a trade off for the rest of components.
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    WereCat got a reaction from will0hlep in After all the advice...   
    Not only that but also because of the design. Almost all coolers have coldplate optimized to cool single chip located in the middle of the CPU but with Zen the die in the middle is the IO/die while the actual core part sits under it and only mostly gets partial coverage of the most efficient portion on the coolers coldplate (especially for AIO coolers).
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    WereCat reacted to The Mohawk in After all the advice...   
    Thanks. I figured exhaust out the top would help the system overall by getting out more heat. I guess it's not a hard change either if I want to experiment once it's all built.
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    WereCat got a reaction from brob in After all the advice...   
    It does not really matter.
     
    Intake on radiator will make the temp on CPU a little bit lower but it's not necessary. Really mount it as it makes most sense to you depending on where the case will be located. IMO I'd rather have cooler GPU than CPU so I prefer CPU rad as an exhaust. There is always a trade off for the rest of components.
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    WereCat got a reaction from The Mohawk in After all the advice...   
    It does not really matter.
     
    Intake on radiator will make the temp on CPU a little bit lower but it's not necessary. Really mount it as it makes most sense to you depending on where the case will be located. IMO I'd rather have cooler GPU than CPU so I prefer CPU rad as an exhaust. There is always a trade off for the rest of components.
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    WereCat got a reaction from The Mohawk in After all the advice...   
    Not only that but also because of the design. Almost all coolers have coldplate optimized to cool single chip located in the middle of the CPU but with Zen the die in the middle is the IO/die while the actual core part sits under it and only mostly gets partial coverage of the most efficient portion on the coolers coldplate (especially for AIO coolers).
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    WereCat got a reaction from PDifolco in After all the advice...   
    Not only that but also because of the design. Almost all coolers have coldplate optimized to cool single chip located in the middle of the CPU but with Zen the die in the middle is the IO/die while the actual core part sits under it and only mostly gets partial coverage of the most efficient portion on the coolers coldplate (especially for AIO coolers).
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    WereCat reacted to PDifolco in After all the advice...   
    Yeah I think that first the Zen4 design confuses people that think thy need moaar cooling because the chips run at 95C naturally
    Zen don't work like Intel chips, they get super hot super fast but on hotspot only, Intels tend to raise temps more linearly and all over the chip (so have hotspot closer to average temps), so with Zen you cannot clearly determine if your cooling is the problem
    Then they may have missed that aircoolers are pretty decent now, the dual towers are able to cool up to 180-200W with not much noise
    Aircoolers are still not good enough for OCed 14900K or such with their 300W power usage...
     
     
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    WereCat reacted to PDifolco in After all the advice...   
    You mean 7800X3D I suppose
    This chip runs hot by design, but don't use much power (120W max) so it's easy to cool down to its designed high temp (if that makes sense 😉 )
    To get it running cooler just undervolt it with Curve Optimizer
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    WereCat got a reaction from IkeaGnome in After all the advice...   
    It will be fine. The CPU is hard to cool not because of the power output but because of the thermal transfer inefficiencies due to it's design. He will not fry anything...
    The Arctic also uses much thicker radiators than most other AIO coolers and has much bigger surface area.
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    WereCat got a reaction from The Mohawk in After all the advice...   
    It will be fine. The CPU is hard to cool not because of the power output but because of the thermal transfer inefficiencies due to it's design. He will not fry anything...
    The Arctic also uses much thicker radiators than most other AIO coolers and has much bigger surface area.
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    WereCat reacted to jaslion in After all the advice...   
    And also they have a hard 95c limit well under their max rated temp so unless the user specifically goes to override that nothing happens
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    WereCat reacted to Agall in First build since Pentium 4   
    6700 XT isn't a $420 card, more like $300. Given the price range, you'd be better off with chopping in some places to go with a 7800 XT instead. Unless that's just a regional price, you could probably save a lot by going with a different card.
     
    7700x is nice and all, but its so close to a 7800x3D.
     
    Artic Silver 5 is obsolete, the thermal paste that comes with coolers are just as good and are non conductive.
     
    As much as I love the NH-D15, there's far cheaper coolers like the Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE that don't warrant the price premium outside of the gucci-est of CPUs.
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    WereCat got a reaction from Agall in First build since Pentium 4   
    It's in CAD so... there does not seem to be a cheaper card than that.
     
    Agree, he can get 7800X3D if saving a bit on a cooler and pay exactly the same total
     
    https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XqkF4M
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    WereCat reacted to PDifolco in First build since Pentium 4   
    It's good, but the cooler is pretty expensive, get a Thermalright PE120 for 45 Canadian Rubles instead 🙂
     
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    WereCat got a reaction from TheLANguy in Which disk should i install Windows 11 on?   
    It does not matter, you will not notice a difference.
    I'd personally install it on the smaller drive as I find that 500GB for OS and programs is more than enough and that would leave you with 1TB for everything else.
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    WereCat got a reaction from Mark Kaine in AFK-ing a game on an integrated gpu   
    If you want to be technical then thermal cycling during normal use shortens the lifespan faster than having the GPU at full load constantly due to physical stress of thermal expansion and contraction of the silicon which causes actual physical wear on the silicon and the solder joints.
     
    Most mining GPUs died due to VRAM being constantly stressed out and at high temperatures, the GPU die part itself barely did any work. On most cards VRAM has only very basic or minimal cooling so in scenarios where you get many cards in a single system in a hot room it ran very close to it's max temp spec or even exceeded it which drastically reduced it's life span for those components.
    Generally most mining cards are just fine. The ones to avoid because of the reason I mentioned above are cards like RTX 3090 which have half of it's VRAM chips on the other side of the PCB with barely any cooling and that part of VRAM is what's typically the first thing to go bad on those cards because of that.
     
    Another part to typically fail are the VRM components which vary a lot from model to model. Some basic and cheapest cards have just very basic VRM that will not last long during heavy 24/7 use. That said, on mining cards it's still likely that only the memory portion of VRM is the one to fail due to it being one of the main components in heavy use.
     
    Even saying all of that. These components can still last for years during those conditions and those that failed are more of an outlier rather than a proof of mining being harmful to a card.
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    WereCat got a reaction from GOTSpectrum in AFK-ing a game on an integrated gpu   
    it wont reduce it's lifespan
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    WereCat got a reaction from da na in AFK-ing a game on an integrated gpu   
    it wont reduce it's lifespan
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    WereCat got a reaction from sythee in AFK-ing a game on an integrated gpu   
    it wont reduce it's lifespan
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    WereCat got a reaction from Levent in AFK-ing a game on an integrated gpu   
    it wont reduce it's lifespan
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