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Toby

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  1. Maybe it's just coincidental that he's chosen two mice without acceleration, but otherwise I'd guess he's chosen those two because of that, so the Sensei wouldn't be ideal for him.
  2. Aye. They're intended to be a backup set that are carrying me over until I either get Aurvanas or HD25-1 IIs (not quite sure where my priorities lie yet).
  3. Well yeah, no kidding your problems disappear. You're using a sledgehammer to crack a nut...A really big sledgehammer.Obviously I can't say for sure, maybe you were just unlucky, but I'm guessing your bad experiences were more to do with the PSU in question than the capacity. I'd recommend looking into Be Quiet!'s Dark Power Pro P10 PSUs. The 750w and 1000w can be had cheapest at KustomPCs, with the 850w being best bought from Amazon. If you're going with two 680s or 7970s you really don't need more than 850w, anything else and even that would be a waste. I mean, if you're rich then go for whatever, but otherwise it's worth considering.
  4. I'm just going to say you need at least 3 GPUs to make any of those worthwhile. With that out the way, are you okay buying from British vendors, or are there any other places you're willing to buy from? Out of the three, I'd go with the OCZ.
  5. Hasn't quite arrived yet though, so otherwise...
  6. This. It's the best value because it essentially does what more expensive boards do for a cheaper price. I have one, zero issues with it. The only reason it's cheaper is because not many people trust ASRock boards. And as a result, people tend to assume inferior quality because it's cheaper. Sort of a catch 22 going on there. Ah so that's what it was...That's why BaPC switched to recommending the GA-Z77X-D3H and TZ77XE3 (the latter's price has since risen, but still a good board).
  7. It can be either and I didn't say you didn't know English, I said it wasn't Eric's first language. If I want to be Mr. Right, then how come I'm the only one in this thread who's admitted to being wrong at all? Whenever I've pinned either of you down on a point you just avoid addressing it and plow on...and I'm the one who wants to be Mr. Right? Okay then.Edit: Also notice that I'm the only one who hasn't thrown any personal insults and yet you call *me* immature. Hmmm...
  8. Supposedly they don't plan on releasing that, which I'm totally not buying (metaphorically, not literally), but you can get a red-backlit Trigger with greens at the CM Store.
  9. Okay, so you've ignored everything I've said and just gone..."But see, you were wrong this time! You can't know anything about anything!" You can feel what you like. You're wrong. It's all marbles, remember?
  10. "What does this have to do with fans? This isn't about motherboards. Keep on track if you are going to try and make a point with me. You are telling me I have no valid point but can't keep what your saying straight and on track. Looks to me your the one moving slowly not me." Oh dear god, what are you saying?! I specifically said it was a point I was making to Eric, not you. You replied to it and you didn't seem to understand the context, so I filled you in. If you don't understand why I'm using motherboards, as an example, go back and read the conversation. It was Eric who brought them up, not me. The 10 owner reviews thing that nearly the entirety of your first comment replied to? That came from a hypothetical situation about motherboards in #1.2. Nothing to do with the fan aspect of this conversation and everything to do with Eric thinking people who don't own things can't know anything about them. "Mature." Sorry, it was my vocalization of slamming my head against a brick wall. "You contradicted yourself again by the way, "The point is, even though I don't own the product, I'm relaying the results of multiple people who do." and then you say: "So no, owning the product means nothing in regards to giving advice to others" -Aren't you basing your advice off people who do own one, and isn't it important for the people who do own the fans to give there feedback? Make up your mind. (So if I never owned this fan, I am able to tell other people that the fan is crappy, or loud, etc.. based off of only ten reviews out of the hundreds of people that bought the fans? That's wise.)" Can I have Eric back? English clearly wasn't his first language, but at least he could follow what I was saying. Again, you're completely ignoring context. You're ignoring the context of the conversation and you're ignoring the context I said those things in. You're also applying the hypothetical from earlier in a place it doesn't belong. There's no contradiction if you don't take those quotes out of context, because the conversation is about the ability of someone who doesn't own something to know something about it and having just as valid an opinion on it as someone who owns it. One person saying something about something they own means nothing by itself, especially if they don't own alternatives (and thus lack context). It's the amalgamation of information that's meaningful.
  11. No. No. No. No. No. No. You are spectacularly confused. Nothing you're saying has anything to do with anything that's been said so far, and it doesn't make sense, either.You seem to be missing the context for what's been said so far, so I'll lay out the question I was asking Eric in full... Lets say a thread exists on *this* forum where someone is asking whether or not an ASRock Extreme4 will overclock above 4.0GHz. Now, I visit forums other than this one, so lets say that between *those* forums I've seen 10 different people who all own the ASRock Extreme4 motherboard report overclocks between 4.1 and 5.0GHz, so I go to the thread on *this* forum and tell them it can overclock above 4.0GHz, but then someone who owns the ASRock Extreme4 on *this* forum comes along and says an overclock above 4.0GHz is impossible. Who is more likely to be right? Whether or not the testimonies of 10 people is enough to draw a valid conclusion is irrelevant to the point of the hypothetical, it's just a number plucked out of the air because it's a number higher than 1. Use your marble analogy if you like. If an Extreme4 owner pulls a single red marble out the bag and I see 10 people have pulled out black marbles, what colour are the majority of the marbles in the bag more likely to be? The obvious answer is the 10 people. It doesn't have to be 10 people, it could be 100 people, it could be 1000 people. The point is, even though I don't own the product, I'm relaying the results of multiple people who do. Even though I don't own the product, I'm more likely to be right, because the guy who owns it and says it's impossible is effectively arguing against 10 other people who own the product. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'd definitely be right in this hypothetical situation, all I'm saying is that it's more likely. So no, owning the product means nothing in regards to giving advice to others, because you're but a single marble. Information is what matters, because information is marbles. Information, is marbles. Thank fuck I'm not wrong very often, I have trouble moving this slowly...
  12. You're slightly missing the point. It's a hypothetical that shows that owning the product doesn't necessarily mean anything. Use 100 instead of 10 if you like.As for the chart, aside from the aforementioned Spectre Pro, everything looks pretty much as I'd expect it to be. The TrueQuiet and BlackSilent fans might be a little louder than I'd expect to see, but that's all. What do you find wrong with it?
  13. No, it's not just because people who owned them said they were quiet. It's because I could hear for myself via soundclips that people have recorded of it. Granted, that may not give an entirely accurate impression and thus the reason I'm not saying Spectre Pros are good, but even with that inaccuracy taken into account, the fans being recorded obviously didn't qualify as "loud". In other words, I accrued more data. I knew I was wrong *because* I can know things without owning it.Also, those stats you're reading off come straight from the BitFenix site...You aren't honestly going to tell me you believe the stats that any manufacturers put on their fans? You said yourself if I know 100% someone's wrong I should say so...This is that time. You've implied here that the stats companies give for their fans are reliable and that's just as wrong as anything I've said in this thread. "Why would you want to put your 2 cents into the thread anyways if 10 people already said that they could get 4.XGHz overclocks" I'm going to quote myself - "having read 10 owners on another forum". *Another* forum, as in an entirely different site. So again, if it's me as an aggregate of 10 owners results on *another* forum (i.e. on a *different* site) saying something different to one person who owns it, who's more likely to be right? "Just make sure that when you give facts that you are right, That is all I would like to ask of you and I'm pretty sure the community feels the same way. " Right back at you. ;)
  14. The primary issue with BW2013 seems to be more on the software side...Synapse 2.0 causing all kinds of fun. Otherwise, don't be scared off...The physical keyboard should be fine (although there are always exceptions).
  15. Which mouse? That's not down to the technology as much as it is the build quality.
  16. Which Blackwidow are you looking at specifically? The original ones (glossy body + blue backlight) tend to have issues. This has given Blackwidows a terrible reputation. The new 2013 editions and tournament edition (matte body + green backlight) seem to be better.
  17. No, that doesn't explain why someone *can't* know about something they don't own, that's merely an example of someone who *didn't* know about something they didn't own. You just so happened to come across one instance in which I - admittedly - spoke too soon. That's an annual event at best. You even quoted me, "I stated a conclusion *without sufficient data*. That's the key point. Put it this way. The fact that you owned it and I didn't, clearly wasn't an issue for me. I argued with you regardless...So why did I change my mind? If it's impossible to know about something without owning it, why did I decide I might have been wrong? Edit: And yeah, you kind of did dodge what I said. I still want to know who you think is more likely to be correct - Me telling someone they can get above 4.0GHz having read 10 owners on another forum say they've gotten 4.XGHz overclocks, or a person who owns it saying that 4.0GHz is impossible?.
  18. Really Eric? You have to bring out the personal insults at this late stage? It's been good fun up 'till now. "Really Toby? I'm just going to let you gloat in your own stupidity on your first sentence there." Then you didn't read the second. If that's stupidity, then what is trying to tell people what to do on the internet? I notice you completely evaded my forth point, so I'll make it even easier for you. If I see someone on another forum ask about Spectre Pros and I tell them exactly what you told me - that they're nearly silent and that they probably couldn't even hear the wind wooshing through them without sticking their ear to the opening in the case, would I be wrong because I hadn't used them? In response to your two points...1. Tough. If people only gave opinions on things they owned, tech forums would crumble and burn. I doubt the number of people with enough disposable income to test even the majority of popular *component here*s reach double digits in this forum and even then, merely being able to get "hands on" doesn't mean they have the first idea how to evaluate it accurately. One owner giving their opinion and results is inferior to a non-owner giving an aggregate of 10 other owners' opinions and results. It just is. 2. If two motherboards have extremely similar or identical features, you look at the components used, you look at the overclocks people can reach, you look at how good the UEFI BIOS is, you look at whether the boards in question are known to have any common issues, you look at the warranties, you look at the bundle they come with...Shall I continue? As for the rest, that's called a strawman argument. I've never recommended a motherboard I knew nothing about based purely on brand. In fact, I've never recommended anything I knew nothing about, period. I get it, you think that someone who doesn't own something can't know anything about it, but what you've still failed to do is explain why.
  19. "Spectre Pros are pretty loud". I can say what I like until someone with more authority than you tells me otherwise. That said, I retract my initial comment, because you're right that the sound samples aren't matching up with the testimonies. I stated a conclusion without sufficient data and as it is, it might have been anomalous. It's a mistake I rarely make, but it happens. With that out of the way, everything else you said is so, so wrong. 1. I didn't say you made a snarky response, I said mine was. 2. People putting their 2 cents in is definitely not what you hate most in the world. That would be stupid. 3. How would you know which motherboard is better? Maybe because you can tell which features are useful to him or not, maybe because you know one has a reputation for blowing up, maybe because one insulted his mother. The sheer number of ways you might be able to tell which motherboard is better for that person without owning it is countless. I could spend an entire day just coming up with ways. 4. The idea that you can't know about things you don't personally own is what's "not logical in any way". If someone reads the opinions of 10 ASRock Extreme4 owners who all say they OC to 4.XGHz and repeats that opinion, then one person who owns it comes along and says it can only go as far as 3.6GHz, who's more likely to be correct? The person who owns it or the person who's read the opinions of 10 other people who own it? 5. I have absolutely no issue with you speaking the truth, it's all the drivel that came with it that I have an issue with. 6. If "Spectre Pros are pretty loud" is an incorrect statement (and I'm entirely willing to believe it is), then that does not make it misleading on so many different levels. It makes it misleading on a single level - the sound of the fan.
  20. 1: Have you tried other headphones? More for my benefit than yours - I want to know if it's a universal side-effect or if it's choosy. 2: Do you have any other LED keyboard to hand? Maybe one a friend could lend you?
  21. Nope. I was going to leave it there, but apparently there's some pesky 10 character requirement, so in lieu of just saying "Noooooope.", I'll say this - Should the question "what am I doing with my life" enter my head, my answer is "enjoying it". If I'm not enjoying a game, I play another one and if I don't want to play, I do something else. I rarely waste time thinking what better things I could be doing, because what am I going to do? The vast majority, if not the entirety of us will never leave any lasting impact in our lives. A lot of us might leave behind equally irrelevant offspring, but otherwise? I've come to the conclusion life is best spent doing one thing more than anything else - enjoying it.
  22. Firefox. I've tried to switch to Chrome a few times, but I'm always frustrated by all the things it doesn't let me do and I don't find it noticeably faster, so I switch back. It's probably better to support Mozilla than Google anyway.
  23. Lots of people used chrome because it was faster than FF, so more people used chrome because it was "fastest", so more people use chrome because it's fastest, so more people use chrome because it's fastest, etc. It's a circular reputation.
  24. http://linustechtips.com/main/forum/...1426#post51426 http://www.hardware.fr/articles/874-...-a-vs-cfm.html (click on names to add/remove them to and from the chart) I own none. What other fans do you own? I typically find owners' anecdotal evidence to be the least reliable, because they lack context. If you own multiple alternatives, then that's nullified somewhat, but I've long lost count of the number of people who say "I own this and it's awesome!". Initially you say they're "super silent", so not just noiseless, but more than noiseless. Perhaps they create a noise vacuum, even? Then you say "they are almost dead silent"...Oh. Well, I tend to find "dead silent" is pretty much the same as just plain "silent", but then if they're "almost silent", they're "not silent", which is a world away from "super silent". It's things like this that make recommending fans ever so hard... Now, here's the thing that ensured this snarky response - you started "defending" something you own. All I said was that they weren't quiet and yet in your head you seem to have heard "weren't well built". I never commented on the build quality. You "LOL", you use hyperbole, you imply a lack of ownership would invalidate my comment, you get sarcastic and then you start defending it against claims that haven't been made. You even feel the need to post pictures, proving you own them. It all rather reeks of reactionary owners-bias, rather than logical disagreement. If you think Spectre Pros are better than I give them credit for, give me evidence. I'd love to find out that they're better than I've been lead to believe, but simply saying "I OWN THEM AND THEY'RE AMAZING" isn't going to achieve that.
  25. Be Quiet!'s E9 and Dark Power Pro PSUs are probably the quietest non-fanless PSUs, though they're fairly expensive (albeit not as expensive as an AX1200). They reach the US and Canada in early February.
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