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17 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

have you tried changing the properties to make sure it's capturing the right window, at the right resolution, at the right scaling?

You mean properties in OBS right? It is on the right resolution. It also is on the right screen (screen 1). I have a option to pick between both monitors 1 or 2.

Resolution doesn't really matter. If the resolution is to set to 1920x1080 on my 1440p monitor it will just be to zoomed in.

It shows a black screen sometimes and sometimes will show the first frame when I open OBS on my desktop of the monitor (screen 1) but won't refresh the frames, but will still show my mouse moving. Its not my pc because it works on my other screen. 

There is no flickering or anything like that when I play or leave the monitor on. The only problem I'm having with it is capturing the screen.

When I choose my other monitor it works prefect. But there are black bars when you stream to twitch with a 34inch and I don't want to game on it. Like I said it's mounted above the other so its already a weird angle. 

I forgot to mention I got a capture card to see if it would capture when I record from the Elgort software and that didn't work. 

Also when I stream with discord in a server monitor 1 will flicker to the viewers and will be very washed out. But when I capture screen 2 nothing is wrong.

I've tried unplugging the other monitor when doing this to, to see if it made any type of change.

That's why I think its some weird defect in the monitor. I've been researching on reddit and all over the web for weeks and can't find any solutions from other problems similar to this.

Hi folks I recently bought the AW2721D dell monitor. Everything's working well with my system when I game and do other task. 

When I go to lunch OBS it shows a blank screen. Sometimes it will show my desktop with my mouse moving around, but when I go to lunch a game it will still show my desktop like it's stuck on the same frame from where it lunched from. For instance even when on my desktop when it rarely shares a display.. I mean rarely because it hardly ever shows anything besides a black screen it will show my desktop. I will go to move a shortcut around with my mouse on my desktop. It will show my mouse moving across the screen while I have a icon clicked moving, but I doesn't show the icon. It shows the icon still at the same place. Like I said it seems to be stuck on the same frame, but it will still show my mouse moving about.

I have set OBS to lunch as administrator every time. I have switch display ports on GPU along with trying a HDMI cable. I have tried lowering my refresh rate from 240hz all the way to 60hz. I've tried disabling G-Sync. Uninstalling OBS. Trying Stream Labs. Driver updates for the monitor. Installing Alienware software. Uninstalling Alienware software. Resting my monitor to factory. Calling Alienware tech support for 2hours. I've unplug my other monitor to see if that was a issue too. The only thing I haven't done is smashed it with a baseball bat.

I have a second monitor that works perfectly fine with OBS on the same setup. So I know its not my PC or Drivers. I have the AW3420DW pretty much the same monitor. Everything works good with OBS and Gaming...

I don't want to stream or game on a 34inch, It doesn't feel right to me. I got it for workstation. Its mounted above my 27 inch that I got for gaming/streaming.

I called Amazon to get a exchange started, but it's past the 30 day window so it has to be authorized by a supervisor. Not sure If I will be able to exchange it or not. Might have to buy another one and send the one I have back on a new return:)

Has anyone had any issues like this? Anything else I could try or is it defective? 

1 hour ago, Fasauceome said:

A 5950X is pretty overkill for streaming but

If you're a recreational video editor, the 5900X will provide a pretty comfortable experience. But if time is money, the 5950X could pay for itself with faster renders.

I'm going for the 5900x seeing benchmarks get the same fps on almost most games @ 1440p ultra graphics

Rendering videos and photoshop should be the only thing I use besides obs.

I just needed some clarification about the whole streaming thing. I don't mind the rendering time difference. If it isn't a big difference.

I have one desktop, planning on gaming and streaming on the same build. 

Should I pair  the 5900x or the 5950x cpu with my 3090 gpu?

The only other programs are really use is Photoshop, Adobe after effects, some other video editing software.

12 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Depends on the GPU... 4k generally works better with 1080p though.

It might. Can't say for certain as I'm a 1080p single-monitor guy right now.

Alright cool decided to go with

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08LR145ZY/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Wish I got this one a day ago i would have saved a extra $150 🥲

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07KGR784M/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Hopefully my second pick was good. I did do some research on it for a while. 

Might get a 4k monitor in the future to see if it's rescale well with the other two.

Happy holidays man!

18 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

I suggest them because they are VA panels, which have superior contrast. (in a dark room, the difference between black and white on a VA with only HDR400 or less is equivalent to an HDR1000 IPS in any illumination) IPS is really only better for viewing angles and response times, and not by a significant margin.

 

It's all up to you. I'm not holding a gun to your head... Yet...

Any time my dude.

Thoughts on a 4k monitor and resizing issues?

Would it cause issues pairing the LG 4k UL monitor with the 1440p dell monitor?

11 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

As I already mentioned, a CHG70 monitor would probably be your best bet.

https://www.newegg.com/dark-blue-black-samsung-chg70-series-c32hg70-31-5/p/N82E16824025164 (32" version)

Or maybe even an Odyssey G7...

https://www.newegg.com/black-samsung-odyssey-g7-lc27g75tqsnxza-27/p/N82E16824022815 ($630)

I don't really like curved monitors. The Dell is only $100 more then the g7 right now being that it's $600 off the retail price. 

I just need a workstation monitor on the side that's also a  27" Dell monitor. Something that would give me the best color calibration and the top of the line HDR display. 

If rescaling a 4k monitor to a 1440p monitors isn't still a issue I'd much rather get a 4k dell.

Thanks

I have the Alienware 27 Gaming Monitor - AW2721D (Latest Model) - 240H for my main gaming monitor.

I would like a secondary monitor for my workstation use, a 27" Dell  specifically. 

Something that give a great color calibration out of the box from factory. Looking for good display HDR

I've heard that 4K monitors don't go well with 1440p monitors atm, due to some resizing display issues with windows. 

If that's not the case then a 4k monitor I think would be my best choice for a workstation screen, I just need advice in what to choice.

Budget is $700.

I'd prefer something more then 60hz, but if not then I'm fine with that, only because it's only for my workstation usage.

On 12/18/2020 at 11:37 PM, BTGbullseye said:

Considering you're planning on two 1440p monitors, I'd suggest a CRG9 ultrawide. Same resolution as 2x1440p, but lower price, ($1100) and [the significantly better] HDR1000. https://www.newegg.com/matte-black-samsung-crg9-series-c49rg90s-49/p/N82E16824022762 (bonus points for it being in-stock right now)

Yeah that's a great monitor. I just can't game on such a big screen. Would be great for a workstation though.

Im only getting one Alienware 27 Gaming Monitor - AW2721D (Latest Model) - 240H for my main gaming monitor.

I would like a secondary monitor for my workstation use, a 27" Dell  specifically. 

Something that give a great color calibration out of the box from factory. Looking for good display HDR

I've heard that 4K monitors don't go well with 1440p monitors atm, due to some resizing display issues with windows. 

If that's not the case then a 4k monitor I think would be my best choice for a workstation screen, I just need advice in what to choice.

Budget is $700.

I'd prefer something more then 60hz, but if not then I'm fine with that, only because it's only for my workstation usage.

17 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

 

I appreciate all the help, making me rethink the 4k monitors.

I think I'm going to get these and place my back order

https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-Gaming-Monitor-DisplayHDR-Certification/dp/B08LR145ZY

15 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Unless you're practically mashing your face against the screen, it's going to be hard to tell.

Lol okay

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There are only 3 reviews of the monitor, the rest are ratings with no way of knowing if the person rating it actually bought the monitor at all. 2 of the reviews ar 5-eggs, and all of the third's issues would've been solved if he'd downloaded the control software and color profile from MSI's website.

So the msi would be your top pick at 2k for gaming?

My only question before buying two of those monitors is, is there a software you can download to calibrate the colors or do you need that special tool? And is it difficult to do?

I'm watching this video review on youtube around the 14:45 mark he talks about gama and how it's incorrect. 

Any thoughts on that?

https://youtu.be/i3X3yFh0-gE

1 hour ago, BTGbullseye said:

Unless you're planning to use it for professional use that requires extreme color accuracy, ignore color calibration options. Also, why are you looking for excuses to spend more on less features?

So the UL is the best option? Would make the most sense.

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Honestly, I wouldn't recommend 4k at 27". 1440p is the better choice, as you can get high refresh, and you're highly unlikely to be able to notice the difference in actual gameplay. (or even most professional workloads)

 

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475097 (for 144Hz screen)

https://www.newegg.com/acer-v277u-27-qhd/p/N82E16824011270?Item=N82E16824011270 (if you want to save money, and don't mind 75Hz)

Can you not tell a difference fr 2k to 4k?

I'm more looking for workloads for these two monitors and the 850 series was the best I could find in 4k. 

I was planning on getting a lg g950 for gaming when they restock them on Amazon or wait tell next year when more 4k 144hz are mass produced and cheaper.

That MSI monitor doesn't have the best reviews

10 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

No, it's a hardware tool that you strap to the screen to test the actual output colors, and adjust the screen color profile as needed to get actually correct color output.

No, they are all calibrated from the factory, but calibration fades over time, and designers that need absolute perfect color representation would use the tool to correct the calibration regularly.

Only if you want to both spend more money on the calibration tool, and are in need or want of higher color accuracy. (which if used for gaming, you'll never notice or need the difference)

What monitor would you get out of those three?

The UL is $420 on amazon

The UN is $450 on amazon

The UK is $450 on amazon

You said that the color fades over years, so would it be worth getting the UL. If needed I could get the calibration tool to correct the colors when they start to fade?

I assume it will take a years maybe for the colors to fade, even if you are looking for perfect color representation.

And just for basic design and gaming I shouldn't even notice anything, like you said.

If you have any recommendations of 4k 27" monitors that are around the same price, please recommend them, but these are the best ones I could find.

1 hour ago, BTGbullseye said:

The UK has a more powerful power adapter.

The UK does not have VESA HDR400 certification like the other two. (despite appearing to use the exact same panel)

The UL supports automatic color calibration if you have the tool, whereas the others do not support the tool but are calibrated from the factory.

 

All else appears to be identical between the 3 monitors. My guess is that the UK was the first one they made, then they put a better PSU in it for the other two which allowed it to meet the VESA HDR400 spec, and the UL just had support for the color calibration tool baked in.

Alright great. I don't really understand what you mean by automatic color calibration tool, is it a software that I would use to calibrate the colors for the UL model?

Wod that mean that the UL model doesn't come calibrated from factory and you have to use a tool?

Would it be beneficial to get the UL and calibrate it myself over the UN model just having factory calibrations?

On 12/14/2020 at 10:31 PM, BTGbullseye said:

Correct.

Do you know much about monitors?

I'm looking for a set of two for design and some gaming. I'll most likely get a specific one just for gaming at some point.

Here are a few I'm looking at, can't find any differences between them and reddit is doing no justice. So I'm thinking about going with the ul beacuse it will save some money, but if the other's are better I'd rather pay for it.

Lg 27ul850-w vs 27un850-w vs 27UK850-w

Does anyone know the differences between the two monitors? I'm looking to buy a set of two, they are both around the same price. Having a difficult time choosing.

Will be for design and some gaming.

5 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Look at the 3rd link of suggested RAM I provided. That's 3200 14-14-14, and should perform effectively the same as the 3600 16-16-16 kit. (it's also effectively identical to what Gamer's Nexus uses for their benchmarking tests)

So the 2nd and 3rd link with perform almost the same in most situations?

But the first link will perform the best?

8 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Depends on the specific programs you use, and the workload. It could be anywhere from a +10% boost, to no appreciable performance increase.

Not just because of the lower voltage, but that is a part of it. It's also better chips in general that can handle higher voltages, and run cooler. It's also more stable when overclocked. It even includes having a better PCB that the chips are attached to.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3333-memory-timings-defined-cas-latency-trcd-trp-tras

Do you think a lower mhz set like 3200 with lower Cas and timings would be faster than the 3600 mhz kit you linked.

If they don't make at least 64gb kits then disregard this question

7 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Depends on the specific programs you use, and the workload. It could be anywhere from a +10% boost, to no appreciable performance increase.

Not just because of the lower voltage, but that is a part of it. It's also better chips in general that can handle higher voltages, and run cooler. It's also more stable when overclocked. It even includes having a better PCB that the chips are attached to.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3333-memory-timings-defined-cas-latency-trcd-trp-tras

Great, thanks for the info!

I watched nexus video, he claims that it depends on the bios In the motherboard to reach those timing once you enabled xmp.

Hopefully the motherboard I've chosen work well with what I am trying to achieve.

Worth waiting tell the best kit you suggested is back in stock or go with the mid kit that is in stock?

On 12/12/2020 at 7:50 AM, BTGbullseye said:

Here's one that will be approximately one half step down from the absolute best RAM you can get, but has the benefit of actually being in stock.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374091

 

If you're wanting to save a few bucks, this is one step down...

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232914

 

If you're looking to save a little more, this should be very similar to the previous set.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232900

When you're looking to my ram, you look for the lowest Cl rating and timing.

What do the first 4 numbers reference for timing like 14-14-14-14 and then what does the last number reference? -35?

On 12/12/2020 at 7:50 AM, BTGbullseye said:

Here's one that will be approximately one half step down from the absolute best RAM you can get, but has the benefit of actually being in stock.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374091

 

If you're wanting to save a few bucks, this is one step down...

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232914

 

If you're looking to save a little more, this should be very similar to the previous set.

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232900

Awesome I'll probably be going with this set

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232914

Unless I can find this set in stock

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374091

I don't mind the price difference.

I guess I will resale the kit when ddr5 is out for consumers.

What will be the percentage of performance that I'll be getting out of gaming and workstation usage? 

You also said these are better for overclocking, beacuse they don't pull extra voltage? 

I'm looking to over clock my entire build, that's why I chose the motherboard that I did.

17 hours ago, 5GigsOrBust said:

RAM choice is very simple on Ryzen: go with a 3600 or 3733 kit with the tightest timings you can afford, and set 1:1 dram-infinity fabric clock. 3600 cl 16, or 3733 cl 17 should be enough.

Any recommendation you can link me to?

19 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

DDR5 will be out next year for enterprise systems only. If you're willing to pay $50k for a new system at that time, then go right ahead. Otherwise, it'll be at least another year after that before it's hitting the enthusiast systems, and another year for true mainstream.

As I said before, there aren't any. Higher capacities are only available in lower performance. If you can stand having only 64GB (which even graphic design and video editing would be hard pressed to fill) then you can get significantly better performance, but not if you need/want to go higher.

Could you link me to a 64 gb kit?

I'm trying to return the one I have, just need to know what to get before I return it.

Thank you 

13 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Yeah, but what are you using it for? If you're just gaming, then it's an utter waste of money for capacity you'll never use, at the additional price of substandard performance.

CL isn't the only timings that matter.

It's because it's 18-22-22, which is only poor quality RAM chips. If it was 18-20-20, then it wouldn't be so bad, but as it is, that's probably unstable timings as-is.

I got 3600 16-16-16 because it was both the highest performing RAM available at that time, and because it's Samsung B-die RAM chips, so it can be overclocked without voltage increase, or undervoltage at the same timings. It was one of the most expensive RAM kits available at the time. Now it's just in the top few for performance, along with several other kits.

Best kits right now:

 

3200 14-14-14

3600 16-16-16

3800 14-16-16 (this is now the best, and the most expensive)

 

None of those kits come in capacities above 16GB per module however as far as I can tell, so you're not going above 64GB with this level of performance. These will give as much as 5% better framerates in games, (compared to your current RAM) and if using 4 modules, will give an extra 3-5% on top of that.

Thoughts on ddr5? Maybe should I wait for that stuff to come out next year?

13 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Yeah, but what are you using it for? If you're just gaming, then it's an utter waste of money for capacity you'll never use, at the additional price of substandard performance.

CL isn't the only timings that matter.

It's because it's 18-22-22, which is only poor quality RAM chips. If it was 18-20-20, then it wouldn't be so bad, but as it is, that's probably unstable timings as-is.

I got 3600 16-16-16 because it was both the highest performing RAM available at that time, and because it's Samsung B-die RAM chips, so it can be overclocked without voltage increase, or undervoltage at the same timings. It was one of the most expensive RAM kits available at the time. Now it's just in the top few for performance, along with several other kits.

Best kits right now:

 

3200 14-14-14

3600 16-16-16

3800 14-16-16 (this is now the best, and the most expensive)

 

None of those kits come in capacities above 16GB per module however as far as I can tell, so you're not going above 64GB with this level of performance. These will give as much as 5% better framerates in games, (compared to your current RAM) and if using 4 modules, will give an extra 3-5% on top of that.

"None of those kits come in capacities above 16GB per module however as far as I can tell, so you're not going above 64GB with this level of performance. "

Could you link me to a kit that can go up to 64gb or 128gb max? Preferably 32x2 kit so I could upgrade.

I will be using it for graphic design and video editing. I always have 50+ tabs open and other software. I use three monitors