Wow this is the most responsive forum I've been to with very little fanboyism ruining everything lol great info and suggestions, from most user opinions I'm thinking if I want to play ultra 4k at stable mid to high fps I'm prolly better suited to wait for the next batch of cards. Is liquid cooling superior over air cooling these days as I've heard the new AMD will also be liquid cooled, could be wrong. Another thing are there any good 4k monitors at this point or near future, I hear alot about IPS and TN panels with the IPS being the better in color and viewing angle however comes at a higher price point and some input lag. There are some well priced 28'' and below monitors right now but anything above that shoots past the $1,000 price point.