Jesse221

I also just updated my asus x570 chipset drivers just recently and actually found they added another power plan (ryzen power saver) so now I have three versions of ryzen specific power plans where before I just had two (ryzen high performance and ryzen balances).  Bios and win10 fully up to date so I’m not thinking I should be on win10 balanced.

Wow thanks for the reply and a lot of info. I think I may just end up leaving this chip on auto, it seems this is a bit more involved than the i7 4790k.  I’m surprised they don’t give a voltage spec, I hear what your saying about liability but when you do serious OC your going outside spec anyway and if doing minor OC sometimes you can just stay stock spec as was the case with my i7 4790k I had the upper voltage limit stay the same as what stock was (going off memory here I think that was 1.37) and at 1.37 I was able to have a very stable 4.6ghz boost speed so I had no fear running that chip at 4.6 since I had a big cooler on it and didn’t require any over voltage but with no max voltage spec from AMD then it makes it hard to know how good the chip can run at stock spec voltages.  Hopefully I explained that right.
 
auto voltage seems to allow the upper limit up to 1.47 is what I’ve seen but then auto OC sets limit to 1.34 yet it seems to keep that as a locked voltage so this chip must work completely different than what I’m used to.

Ok so is maybe the asus ai OC doing and all core 1.35 and that’s why the higher score?  What does an auto OC 200mhz mean does that mean max would then be 4.7 or does that mean min would be 4.1?  It’s odd because the only noticeable thing I see in bios after the ai OC is the multiplier changed from auto to 43.50.  When I OCed my i7 4790k I changed multiplier to 46 vs auto.  So I’m assuming intel auto is max boost (4.4 in the case of i7 4790k) and then I’d have to guess AMD uses stock clock (3.9 for 3800x) but then how does it get max boost value?
 
lastly where do people get the correct “safe” voltage values for chips?  I’ve found the specs for the 3800x and found the max temp I should be sticking to (95c) but looking over the specs I don’t see a voltage spec that should be held to and in pics of ryzen master I see 1.475 as a common screenshot.  Also maybe I should note asus has 2 TPU settings 1 air cooled and 2 water cooled and I used 2 since I’m on a full water cooled loop, so maybe that why the higher allowed multi core voltage but I’d rather stay safer as even stock is extremely fast (every game is smooth as glass) I just saw the consistently lower voltage (and I believe cpu temp was lower too) and thought well if it running cooler and faster at same time maybe asus is right?  Still trying to adapt to this new cpu.

Ok so I have a new system with amd 3800x, asus strix x570-e and 32gb g skill 3600 everything stable and running fine.  So I have tested 3 ways for the cpu just to see what my results are and I’ve tried full auto, pbo on, and using asus ai 5 way optimization.  I’m a bit confused by my results, the best benchmark was after asus optimization but what confuses me is it seems to run at a fix clock and voltage, in my case it’s 43.50 clock and 1.35v and it changes it to offset mode.  In auto or pbo on it seems to run identical and clock speeds and voltages fluctuate as I would expect like my i7 4790k did (OC up to 4.6ghz and adaptive voltage) and in auto mode my ryzen 3800x hits up to 4.5 and voltage hits up to 1.47ish.
 
so I’m confused by the ai tuner running a lower voltage yet seems to stay fixed and also confused with a lower clock speed (which makes sense with the lower max voltage) yet gets a better benchmark that the stock hitting higher clock speeds.
 
what am I missing with AMD ryzen vs how intel works?  Is it better to stay at a constant lower voltage vs a fluctuating 1.1-1.47?  I’d think the adaptive would be better but maybe not?

I haven't had any issues with drivers excepte with win 10 I have been having something happen twice now when removing drivers and rebooting to update to newer driver I will get a corrupted screen and have to use mobo gfx to uninstall the AMD in device manager and screw with a bunch of crap to get it back to a baseline bag adapter and then install the new drivers. I am not sure why win 10 is doing that and it is annoying but I don't fully blame and for it.

Sweet it is impressive isn't it. I went from 270x to strix 390 (I know people hate on it but I have not had issues). Have not even bothered to oc because it runs everything smooth and fast at ultra on base settings. Very good bang for buck card

Intel "Slot 1" Celeron, I had the 333MHz version. Thing was dog slow from lack of cache and had overheating issues. Looked similar to this:

Seems like a pretty legit card to me. Seems your biggest complaint is price but your missing the point. It isn't supposed to compete vs the 980 in an atx that's what the fury x is for and is priced accordingly. This is for those niche builds and guess what just like emu thing else in the world being niche cost more (Audi vs VW often same damn car with different price, Lexus vs Toyota, Prada/Gucci vs IDK some other mass bag maker). If you want unique and niche expect to pay more for it. This card being able to beat a 980 is stock form means a little tiny box of a PC could play any game on the market right now with no noticeable difference to a full spec atx PC. Yea benchmarks might show different numbers but set up a full atx next to one of these and play in 1080 (still the most widely used resolution) and people would be able to tell what PC had what hardware and that was the point of the card. So yea impressive.

I got it before I knew what it was and had good experience with the phenom ii x4 so was pretty please with amd and thought they were great deals the price. So 8 real cores vs 4 sounded pretty impressive and good advertising. In the end yea ill do much more research before buying and won't let brand loyalty get in my way.

interesting well your the first I heard had an issue with the i5.  but I didn't have any issues getting my 8350 to oc it just didn't prove to be worth it.  sure I made it go from able to play on low to able to play on high but for the cost at 40.00 more and people able to reliably all play that just seems a better deal to me.  I had two amd cpu very similar to each other 8120 and 8350 and yes the 8350 was better but by no mean worth the price just my opinion.
 
anyhow glad to be on team blue and finally glad something is working right for once.  maybe when amd released next gen architecture in 2016 or whenever ill be curious but definitely not going back until enough people trust them (phenom was awesome) but benches show the 8350 do one thing but in game its a totally different story.