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3 minutes ago, Pepperonis said:
I will make sure that will not happen for the 4th repaste. hopefully it will solve my problem. Also, i do have a layer of acrylic conformal coating around both of my dies. If anything gets on that coating will anything happen?
It shouldnt affect it. But you can never be sure.
If all fail I would use regular paste just to rule that out and then go through all the software things.
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Have you checked 3 times that you didnt spill anything? Check all around the die and cpu for a 3rd and 4th time.
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19 hours ago, Netherspark said:
How do you control AIO pump speed with the Quadro, just plug the pump cable into a fan header? Or can the software control it via the motherboard's pump header?
You can plug the pump into a fan header and control it. There is no way to control the headers on the mainboard.
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I cant recommend this game because imo the problems outweighs the good by a lot. Keep in mind this is just an opinion.
The game is completely unbalanced. There is no auto team balance what so ever so it's not unusual that one team is 2-5 people short. Especially in the squad conquest. Very often it's an 8v4 game - which is not fun.
Tanks are super inconsistent in strength. Some are super weak due to the turret rotation speed or damage output (turret rotation speed is super wobbly and “drunken” in first person). It's not uncommon to shoot multiple rounds (4-6) into another tank (Tiger especially) without doing much damage. The locational damage model is something to get used to but super inconsistent and weird to use (for example destroying the tracks of a tank) or shells that ricochet of a tank. - imo this doesn’t belong in this game. Too much randomness for an arcade shooter.
The maps are so clustered with stuff (trees, walls, debris, holes, leaves ...) it's very hard to spot someone. People are extremely well hidden and even on low graphics there is a ton of foliage visible which hides players.
The game looks beautiful but absolutely everything has some sort of animation attached to it. This game creates a bit of its own genre, I would call it "cinematic shooter" and I don’t like that because to much of the cinematic aspect messes with gameplay in the wrong way.
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It's just meh. A lot of tuning options and a nice selection of cars. But driving in general is rather stupid bc of the amount of drifting involved. Not as bad as the previous nfs but still rather ridiculous even for an arcade game. Drifting is slower than grip but you start drifting very fast for no reason at all.
And cops are fing op. Cop chases are just bad. Not boring or wired but bad. Cops are very aggressive and can take a ton of hits where your cars gets destroyed by like 5-6 hits. Cops are ridiculously fast and only try to crash you.
In general I would say it's a 5/10 so just meh.
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So I bought a new notebook a few weeks ago. I did so because on the weekend I'm not at my place and wanted a portable device to play games on. I used to have a Clevo notebook with an I7 6700hq and a gtx 1060. However I sold it because of the 60hz screen, lack of up to date drivers, dying battery and noicy fans (most of which is due to driver issues that wont be fixed anymore...)
So I bought the ROG Strix G for the following reasons:
- New 9th gen cpu
- A gtx 1660ti (which is supposed to be on paar with the 2060)
- 120 hz ips screen
So in general a nice hardware upgrade but most of all because it was on sale for 1150€. So it seemd like the best price / performance deal at the time. So does it hold on?
Kurzgesagt (tl:dr)
SpoilerIn no paticular order
Pros
+ All USB 3.1
+ CPU doesn't thermal throttle
+ Silent opperation (in silent mode)
+ Thin display bezel
+ No webcam (sue me Linus)
+ Pretty good internal speakers
+ Easily servicable
+ The performance of course
+ 120hz ips screen
Cons
- No fingerprint sensor
- Gsync "unusable" it is technically speaking always on, I dont see any screen tearing but there is no option to check.
- No SD card slot
The missing fingerprint sensor is a bit annoying because its such a nice feature but not such a big deal to be a deal breaker. Gsync seems to be always on because I cant see any screen tearing but there is no way to turn it off or check if its actually turned on. The screen is directly wired to the igpu.
Appearance and build quality
Everything you touch has a brushed aluminum finish and feels high quality. The RGB is not too overwhelming and the touchpad is very smooth and quick to use thanks to up to 4 finger movements.
Usability:
The internal speakers sound very good for what they are. No ratteling even at max volume. They can be very loud, dont have much base (as expected) but also dont have a high pitch ear rape. The screen is bright enough and very sharp. There is some ghosting to it but hardly noticable during game. The keyboard is ok. I do miss a few keys here and there and the small return key is a bit annoying.
Performance:
Undervolting the cpu is required to get optimum performance. Using Intel XTU makes it very easy and after doing it I enjoy the increased performance and reduced power consumption.
Maintanance:
Taking the notebook appart is very easy. Only 11 screws that need to be removed and thats it. After removing the bottom part you get access to nearly all components that someone might wanna tinker with. Cooling, RAM, storange, battery, rgb, fans ...
Appearance and build quality - Sleak, high quality
SpoilerThe entire chassie has a brushed aluminum finish to it which makes for a nice feeling when touching it. Everything you can touch feels high quality. Not on Apples standards but for a 1200$/€ device its really good. The RGB lighting of the keyboard is very even and not annoyingly bright. The strip around the bottom however isn't very well designed. There are four leds in each corner. The light is diffused by a strip around the device. But it's clearly vissible where the leds are because the light gets rather dimm in betweene them. You can't turn off the strip on its own. Either no rgb or all of it.
The hinge of the screen is a little stiff, you cant open it with a single finger but there is no wobble to it at all. Opening and closing the lid feels premium. The back of the lid has a reflective rog logo but no illumination or other gamery aspects to it.
Overall the device looks sleek and the rgb elements can be tweak to not be super wierd.
There are no connection options on the right side of the device. I like that because then there are not cables in the way of your mouse. However there is one exhause hole for the gpu fan but the airflow aims towards of the back side so there is very little to no hot air coming towards your mouse.
The touch pad has a number mode where you can use it as a 10 key extension. By pressing and holding the top right corner for one second you switch between number and mouse mode. If number mode is enabled the touch pad is iluminated and show the numbers, math options, enter and back key. There is some getting used to typing numbers fast but whoever can use a calculator on a phone can use this.
Very unfortunate is the missing fingerprint sensor. While I like the fact that there is no included camera, a fingerprint sensor is very nice to have. I dont understand why ASUS didnt include one. They are super cheap and dont use much space. Could, no should have been included in the power button or somewhere else. Shame...
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Internals - This is what you pay forSpoilerCPU: Intel I7 9750H
- 6 Core HT
- 4.5 GHz single core Turbo (rarely seen because more than one cores are active most of the time)
- 4.0 GHz all core Turbo (Drops to 3.6 if power limit kicks in)
RAM: 16 GB DDR4
- 2666 MHz
- Two slots, no solderet ram
- Up to 32 GB possible
GPU: NVIDIA GTX 1660TI
- Boost 1700-1900 MHz
- 100 MHz factory OC
SSD: Intel 660p (ssdpeknw512g8)
- m.2 NVME
- 1500MB/s read
- 1000MB/s write
Display: Mat 15.6" IPS 1080p (Sharp LM156LF-GL02)
- 120 Hz
- 45% NTSC
- 141,21 ppi
- Brighness 282
- gsync
Keyboard: Chiclet RGB Lit 10-key-less
- Multifunktion Keys
- No full sized arrow keys
- No full sized enter button
- Function keys easy to reach but uncoventional position
Touchpad: Windows 10 compatible multi gesture
- glass top finish
- Up to 4-finger gestures
- Number pad mode
Connectivity - A lot for 2019
SpoilerRight side
- Pretty much nothing
Back side
- 19V Power connector
- 1x USB 3.1 Type C
- 1x HDMI 2.0b
- 1x RJ45 gigabit Ethernet
Left side
- 3x USB 3.1 Type A
- 1x combo audio jack
Usability - Display, audio, keyboard, touchpad - that stuff
SpoilerDisplay
SpoilerI cant really tell whether or not the display is super colour accurate because I dont know what I'm talking about. But since I'm used to a tn pannel on my main rig it's nice to have some powerfull colours again on this ips screen. The 120hz refreshrate is a very nice thing to have. Playing games feels smooth and they look good.
You notice some brightness adjustment going on when switching from something white to something black. If the majority of the screen shows something dark the screen gets a little dimm. When the majority is white the screen brightens up. This can be disabled by adjusting the power plan in the intel control pannel.
Quick and dirty ghosting test
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Not good but not terrible.
Audio
SpoilerI'm not an audiophil. If something sounds nice to me I like it. I'm a simple man.
The speakers of the notebook are actually pretty good. They are located at the bottom of the device so the audio doesnt sound like its comming directly from the notebook. It bounces of the table making it hard to locate. But the quality is nice and there is no distortion, ratteling or anything like that. The speaker can be very loud without loosing much quality. At 100% volume there is a bit of vibrating that you pick up through the keyboard but compared to the volume its very very neglegeble.
Have a go (recorded with lg g6). Playing yt at max volum, Windows set to 40%.
The audio processor does a good job at delivering good quality. Comparing the Asus G531 to the Astro Mixamp (2014) and a Creative SoundBlaster X USB soundcard the audio sounds a bit more bass heavy. Same goes for the microphone on my headset. A bit to much bass and required +10 amp to get some decent volume out of it.
As for build in mic. There is a mic array (stereo mic) at the bottom of the screen. It's a build in microphone with all the goods and the bads. The good: Sounds good. It's not direct and picks up everything around it but good. The bad: You hear everything. EVERYTHING. Every key, the fan (if they spin) all of it.
Keyboard
SpoilerI'm writing this review on the notebook. So far the keyboard feels good enough. The keypress is a little too stiff for my liking and I do miss a few keys here or there due to spacing. A bummer is the small return key. As a german I do hit the #-key above it to often because I'm not used to it being so far away from my pinky and so close to the return.
Every key is well balanced an there is no wobble on them.
Touchpad
SpoilerThe touchpad has a very nice feel to it. It's very smooth and there is a very small bump at the edges so you notice if you hit the boarder. The full compatibility with Windows 10 makes for some very quick movement with multiple fingers. The size is perfect for me. Any bigger and I could accedentially hit it with my thumb on the space bar. The location is also in a good spot between my two hand so no accidential touch. The touchpad can be deactivated through a function key.
There are dedicated hardware buttons for left and right click.
By pressing and holding the top right corner for one second you can enable a number key extension. With this mode enabled you no longer controle the mouse but instead have a full number pad with all math options a return and delete "key". Im not as fast typing numbers as on hardware keys but much faster than with the row above the regulard keyboard. It's a good compromise if you have a 10-key less keyboard.
Battery
SpoilerBattery last around 3 hours of 1080p youtube videos at the silent settings. Set it to performance or turbo at you drop down to 2 hours.
Performance - Undervolting is keySpoilerThe G531 performs out of the box as expected. This is the main reason why someone would buy this machine. There is no thermal trottlling thanks to the massive copper cooling system. However the cpu is being held back by a power limit. At stock values the cpu would run into a current limit after a few seconds of cinebench. Using Intel XTU to inspect the performance while testing we can see that after a few seconds of Cinebench the cpu will hit the Current Limit Throttling. This results in the core clock to drop from 4 GHz down to 3.4 to 3.6 GHz. Not a huge drop but it does decrease performance.
Luckly the fix is pretty easy. All we do is add a negative core voltage offset of 90mv. This greatly reduces power consumption and nearly eliminates all current throttling. Unfortunatly we cant reduce voltage far enough to avoide throttling at all because the system becomes unstable. I did get a successfull cinebench run at a negative offset of 100mv (without any current throttling) but superposition wouldn't load anymore and the system would bsod.
After a day of testing I got the following result:
All test except Cinebench (stock) were done with these settings
- Core Voltage Offset -90mv
- Turbo Boost Short Power Max 95W
- Turbo Boost Power Max 95W
- Cache Voltage Offset -90mv
Thermals
SpoilerThermals on notebooks is a bit funny. Because the cpu and gpu share a maximum power budget being available at all times. Depending on what component is maxed out the other will adjust its clocks and therefor thermals. So if the cpu load increases during game the gpu can't draw any more power and wont clock very high resulting in a lower temperature. Therefor the gpu temps are a bit all over the place and not very fixed.
Also the cooling solution is shared between all components. (see maintanance for pictures)
At stock settings the cpu would hit aroud 84°C before the current limit kicks in
At the tuned settings the cpu stays at around 78°C
The gpu hovers in the high 68°C to low 73°C depending on clock and load
Cinebench R20 (Stock)SpoilerSettings
- Windows Power Plan set to high performance
- ASUS Fan and Performance profile set to "Turbo"
3 back to back runs
- 2827
- 2769
- 2762
You see where the clocks and voltage drops. It's worse on the 2nd and 3rd run compared to the 1st.
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Cinebench R20 (Undervolted)SpoilerSettings
- Windows Power Plan set to high performance
- ASUS Fan and Performance profile set to "Turbo"
3 Back to back runs
- 3014
- 2991
- 2992
Screenshot (From thermal testing, not back to back run but same settings)
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SuperpositionSpoilerSettings
- DirectX, 1080p, Extreme preset
3 Back to back runs
- 3091
- 3098
- 3094
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GTA VSpoilerSettings
- 1080p Fullscreen, MSAA 8x, everything maxed out, no TXAA
Avg out of 3 back to back runs
Min: 34,64 FPS
Max: 95,2 FPS
Avg: 61,30 FPS
Forza Horizon 4SpoilerSettings
- 1080p Fullscreen, 8x MSAA, FXAA, everything maxed out
3 Back to back runs (avg)
- 74,2 FPS
- 73,8 FPS
- 73,7 FPS
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Maintanance and accessebility - Cant complainSpoilerTo open the device you have to remove 11 screws at the back. There are 3 different types of screws, so keep track of them. The back cover opens easily after removing the screws. There are a few plastic clipps around the cover so its a good idea to use some sort of plastic card (or one of those plastic cover opening thingys that come with every repair kit) to push the clipps in. The bottom part is one big cover and reached around the heat sinks as well.
This grants you access to:
- The cooling system
- Battery
- m.2 SSD and 2.5" drive bay
- 2 ram slots (one is populated by factory)
- rgb light strips at the bottom of the device
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On 10/21/2019 at 6:37 PM, BuckGup said:
A cave
Weeellllll... some caves require you to sign up before you enter and take a lot of personal information in case you get lost. Soooo ...
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45 minutes ago, eemunni said:
Meh. Discord is still better
1 minute ago, BuckGup said:Discord is a privacy nightmare
And it has worse audio quality and cant be privatly hosted and so on and so on
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Anyone getting 502 errors as well? It's been all day long and I wanna do some research
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As some of you might remember, we got DDoS'ed as soon as we opened the shop. It might sound silly, but this event traumatized me and kind of broke something inside me.
Getting traumatized by a ddos? Was his life support hocked up to that server or what? I kinda smell a lame excuse.
And I agree with Intransigent, no one will buy that for 30$.
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You know what would be nice? A 1080p touch version for ~100€/$
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Android? If yes you can move the data warning slider up and down to adjust it.
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Hello, after unlocking the bootloader (no root, no custom rom or recovery) I’m unable to add my pc or notebook as a trusted device for smart unlock. If I try to add my pc I get the error that the device can’t be added and I should verify that it is close enough for a connection.
I'm able to transfer files over bluetooth and I can add my car as a trusted device no problem.
I did reset the entire bluetooth controller on my pc and paired my phone again but no success. I can use the other smart lock features, trusted places, voice match and carry detection.
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7 hours ago, bazzie91 said:
u know if a cap or mos can replicate a sound like an alarm?
They can't. Only inductors can make a whiny sound when the coil starts vibrating. Usually happens at extreme fps (400+).
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Guess one way to avoide it (on Firefox) is to use this addon https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/restore-fast-theme-of-youtube/?src=search
It's not up to date and doesn't restore the layout from a few days ago. Instead it restores a much older layout. Still better that whatever this is...
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You could run afterburner and take a look at all the sensor data. Maybe you hit some limit (power or temp). The blower cooler is just bad and the 70c you say doesn’t tell the whole story. The junction temp can spike way above 100c (usually 15-20c hotter that edge temp) and reach thermal limit. That’s where the card starts downclocking. Check afterburner to verify that.
You could set the fan speed to 100% and see if things change.
It could also be a driver issue. They seem to be rather unreliable at the moment. So clean installation of the driver could help.
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4 hours ago, Wictorian said:
If I order this:
https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-5700-GDDR6-3xDP/dp/B07TB5FBV6
to Turkey, do I have to pay any additional tax?
Are there no resellers in Turkey? I'm pretty sure Turkey has some sort of import taxes so I would search directly for those. I'm not from Turkey btw...
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1 hour ago, bazzie91 said:
hello , ,anyone knows why my gpu`s are beeping .they beep not just both at the same time but also individual.
. just for 6-10 ,, in a fixed interval between beeps ,, very hard to record this but i attached a short clip of both my gpus beeping at te same time .
for both cards there is no way to replicate the issue with settings or user input. completly random
- happens at idle, in windows , as wel as linux. in chrome`os and mac`os ,,
- under load in windows , as wel as linux. in chrome`os and mac`os ,,
- also at boot- in 3 diffent systems thus far
-pre- bios enter screen as wel as after, it also happens when im in the bios settings.
sound is not great but the cards beeping is not in sync . so litte hard to pick up.
the background noise in the sound clip is gpu fan set at fixed 60% ,, ( one of my personal profile`s)
DEFINETLY NOT MY PSU AND NEITHER THE MOTHERBOARD.. ( SAME ISSUE WITH EXTERNAL GPU ENCLOSURE AND PCI-E EXTENTION .. SO DONT START WITH THOSE)
Spraak 002_sd.m4a audio clip
Since gpus don’t have any speakers and you're sure it's them I would guess either a bad bearing of a fan (metal rubbing on metal) or coil whine. There’s not a whole lot more on a card that can make a sound.
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6 hours ago, ybotlang said:
Yeah tried 3 different displays all with their different cables, tried vga DP and HDMI
Then we kinda ruled out software as an issue. The last software test I can come up with is to boot a live linux and see how that behaves. I guess you could also install ubuntu and download the nvidia driver for a test. One more thing: check if there are any bios updates for your mainboard and if yes, install them. If that also doesn't work then it might be hardware related.
Then I would remove the cooler, check for any unusual, dust the card off reapply thermal paste and pad and test again. Also maybe a bios update to the gpu could be worth a shot - but I'm not experience in that so I can't help your there.
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3 hours ago, im confusedboi said:
Hello I've a very old gpu regardless it works but after booting onto the desktop screen if left idle montor doesn't output even tried to press keys to see if it in sleep mode but no use and will only display output after removing the gpu from the system and reinstalling it.
So,whats the problem here and any help is appreciated!
Have you done the usual? Reinstalled gpu driver, checked all connectors (power connectors, monitor cable), tested the card in a different system, changed the monitor cable, changed the monitor, taken a look at the card via software monitor like afterburner.
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8 hours ago, ybotlang said:
Thank you for the reply, tried windows from about 2016 to 1903 today. Tried using 5 or 6 different drivers from 380 to the newest ones now and I have done that on both machines. I am all out of ideas from here.
Have you switch display and display cable? Just to rule this out.
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9 hours ago, GraveBolt said:
Thought you may want to know, I have the GPUS working EXACTLY like I want. They're both plugged in, they separate my monitors, as I have my secondary monitor (HDMI) plugged into the 5700XT and my main monitor (Daul Link) in the 1080. Both GPUs share memory, even though one had GDDR5 and the other GDDR6. If I run a game on one monitor it uses the GPU the monitor it plugged into. So far every game registers 16GB shared GPU memory, the 5700XT gives maybe a 20% boost in FPS to my stock 1080, which is great, but my gtx 1080 can clock to 2.2GHz, which basically closes the gap, and the 5700xt doesn't seem to have ANY overclocking room. I'll still buy that adapter so I can use the one GPU, but it's interesting to have 16BG of dedicated GPU memory. Thanks for your help.
If it works for you thats great! The shared memory thing is likely a windows thing. The cards wont actually share their memory - that would be very confusing.
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3 hours ago, Felix0502 said:
I‘m new here and don‘t know if this is the right forum, but some weeks ago I had to repair my Air Cooler and had to take the Graphics Card out (Strix GTX1080). I put it in again but I forgot to put in the Security Screw and since then I get several BSOD’s, in the Internet all seem to could be related with the Graphics Driver. But as I reinstalled the Drivers several times, I asked myself if it’s possible that this is an issue with the Graphics Card/ PCIe Port, because there was too much weight on it or I don’t know. The blue screens are completely different, i.e. System Service Exception or unexpected store exception. Sorry for my English, not a native and I’m looking forward your answers!
What security screw? The one that you put in through the case to secure the card? Did you put it back in after you noticed it's missing?
What part of the cooler did you repair? Did you reapply thermal paste before putting it back together (if taken off the card)?
When does the bsod occur? Right at system start or when you game? To further analyse the bsod you could use the tool whocrashed (https://www.resplendence.com/downloads) this will display any crash logs found in a usable format. It even tells you exactly which file / service / program caused it.
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Difficult if it's something that happens randomly and is hard to notice. Is it only in one game, specific situations (like stare at a wall), anything unusual (super high fps, high gpu temps, coil whine)? You could run a test like furmark or a unigine benchmark at very low and very high settings to load the gpu to max or get as many fps as possible and stare at the screen for hours.
A graphic glitch like that could be caused by instable clocks or load in general. For a start you could use afterburner and increase power target and add like 5-10mv. Might not do much but maybe lets you ignore the artifects.
GPU clock problem
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Good luck!