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does it work if you have ram all in the yellow ones and then populate the orange ones? it has a preference for the yellow ones first, and then the orange ones. you also want to do that because it's triple channel, so if you run it in orange+yellow, yellow, nothing instead of yellow, yellow, yellow then it's only dual channel
it's awkward for the IMC to talk to 2/3rds of the ram on the yellow and then the last one on orange and that's why it doesn't work (and also it's an older IMC, older ones are more strict on what is proper and works)
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you can expect anywhere from 101-105mhz ishh bclk ish for daily oc, absolutely not above 106mhz for daily. i don't suggest it because it literally overclocks everything -> easy data corruption or weird oddities
you are better off getting something more than a slow dualcore from 2011 and 4gb of ram (hopefully you have an ssd!) than thinking about a nicer motherboard
for i3 2100, you get 31x multiplier, 31x100mhz = 3100mhz clockspeed
31x102 = 3162mhz
31x104.8 (for me this was the edge of daily stability on my boards) =3248.8mhz
so no.. it's really not worth it. i only know about this because i was trying to squeeze performance out of my 2500k for higher scores on benchmarks/hwbot
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a bit on the hot side but if you are mostly just gaming or idle then it is fine
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it will run in dual channel at 2666
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My 6s+ served me very well up until I replaced it with a 12 Pro Max this year. Farewell A9!
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there is no minimum, the maximum is probably somewhere around 5ghz+ but realistically you're going to be stuck by the FCLK to be about 4000mhz ish, +/- some because lottery like zen2
as someone as said earlier, difference between 3200 and 3600 isn't that much and it *can* cost a lot more. Personally I'd just buy 3600 for like 10$ more than 3200 and be that my ram can OC to 4000 if I wanted to, but XMP is already fine.
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31 minutes ago, ZmBzRALIVE said:
that's not quite the solution I'm looking for, I am not looking to mix and match capacity.
I am simply trying to get just the red set to work, however it will not post without the old ram in at all (the white set), regardless of which slot/s.ah
no idea then, never had a problem like that
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23 minutes ago, ZmBzRALIVE said:
okay, so I've read a boat load of forum post about this issue, none of which have helped.
Recently I bought some new ram (this week in fact) to go into a "old" system of mine, upgrading it from 2x4 GB to 2x8 GB (same 3000 Mhz)
When I put the new ram in and press power, it powers up but will not post.
I put the old ram back in, boots just fine.
I tested the kit in another computer so I know it's fine. (I also tested one stick at a time in the old PC)
But here is the catch: if I put 1 stick of old ram in and 1-2 stick/s of the new ram in it will post, giving me 12-20 GB's. strange huh?
I have updated the bios on the z270 fatal1ty gaming K4 to the latest version.
CPU I5 7600k
DDR4 3000mhz 2x4 (and 2x8)
PSU is 600w 80+ gold
Windows 64-Bit
and I tried clearing cmos, as well as factory resetting all the settings.
No Post beep, no LED errors on Mobo.
Any ideas?
(red is the new set, white is the old set)try swapping it from white/red/white/red to red/white/red/white
ive had this same issue with ddr3 on my z68-v pro, mixing capacities sucks but eventually you'll find a combination that works (although you may be fucked over by maximum clockspeed via overclocking; xmp is a overclock)
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10 minutes ago, Warin said:
To be fair, the chances that the average iPhone user doesn't have at least a handful of USB A to Lightning is pretty miniscule. I have three that I can see from where I am sitting.
The 12 Pro Max looks so damn good. But I am going to try to squeeze at least one more year out of my 8+ before replacing it.
Oh, and does anyone else think the new cosmetics have a certain iPhone 5/5s vibe to them?they have a mixture of iPhone 4 and iPad Pro vibes to me
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20 minutes ago, xCJ said:
u pls check for me, my ram is hyperx fury rgb 16gb 8gb *2 @3200mhz but unfortunately it runs at 2400
enable XMP
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I only overclock because it is fun to see what older parts can perform like when pushed to their max (eg, a Q9400 I got recently, or my i5 760). On my main system, I do it because I am too poor to have any better components
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11 hours ago, r0otctrl said:
Strange. I guess I'll keep an eye on it. Anyways, thanks for the info!
Btw, do you know any good RAM overclocking tutorials for a complete beginner?What die do you have? Download thaiphoon burner and check
Edit: google everything tbh when it comes to memory overclocking. I'm having fun with mine right now and there's a lot of goodies / tricks that isn't all on one website, but rather scattered across the internet
buildzoid is a great resource though
the first thing I recommend is finding your maximum fCLK (infinity fabric) overclock as well as your maximum CPU undervolt (let PBO do the overclocking, that's what I heard was the best/easy method)
run XMP and do a memtest for a hour or two, if it's stable at that fCLK with both a memory stress test (XMP default) and a prime95 AVX test then start tinkering with ram
(you want to stress memory and CPU because infinity fabric does two things: CCX to CCX communication and CCX to memory communication)
assuming you have a good ram kit, see if you can match it up 1:1 fCLK and mCLK (memory speed, remember it's /2 because DDR. eg, DDR4 3200 is actually running at 1600MHz)
it's not worth desync for fCLK and mCLK if the difference is <133MHz , but it's worth it if it's over (eg, running DDR4 3200 with a 1833 fCLK is worth it, but running DDR4 3600 with a 1800 fCLK is better than running 3600 and 1833)
maximum safe voltage for ddr4 is 1.45v. Bump your ram to 1,45v for the remainder of the overclock to figure out what's the fastest/tightest configuration
I'd start off with running ryzen memory calculator and using those numbers as a beginning start, then tightening up the values. Only enter in the primaries (CAS, tRCD, tRP, tRAS) and then stress for a bit
then lower the numbers down.
Once you've lowered CAS, tRCD, tRP and tRAS down to as low as it'll go while being stable, try tweaking with tRC
minimum tRC value = tRP + tRAS
Once stable, put in the tertiary timings from the ryzen calculator
i have no idea what to do at this point as I'm starting this point right now.. memory overclocking will take you a good while though. I recommend 8hrs stress test as the ambient temperature of the ram itself will affect stability
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Just now, r0otctrl said:
IDK. I just know that my old i5-4690k would never drop below the base clock speed? Maybe because the chip wasn't powerful enough?
my 3770k lived it's life almost always overclocked for me so I have no idea how it would do under stock, but it never dipped below my overclock (4.4GHz, never anything less)
my laptops would always drop under base clock though to save power though, even on AC (core 2 duo t7600, i5 540m, i5 2410m, i5 8350u)
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1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:
Oof, don't the Zen 2 chips pull up to 1.5v happily at stock though? IIRC AMD said 1.5v is the max safe as well, and guys benching a bunch of Ryzens said it's 1.375v for Zen+, I forget what it was for Zen.
And yee, that RAM would be what's holding you back a bit.1.5v at stock under idle to get high boost but stock load is like 1.35v or less
high voltages at idle is apparently fine for zen2 because it doesn't draw much amps, but once it gets to a high load then it'll drop the voltage down because more amps
something something 7nm is very small, very delicate is what I remember from reddit lol
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2 minutes ago, r0otctrl said:
It really dips below base clock speeds to save power though?
yea, why would it not?
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7 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:
Mine is running XMP as well, the stock 3200Mhz CL16 at 1.35v. IDK how much of a boost RAM performance is in 3dmark or superposition, but I'd probs have higher RAM bandwidth due to running in quad channel.
That's always confused me, lol. I don't think there's a 4K Extreme option though is there? Or is it still just 4K Optimized (IIRC that was the only option for 4K when I last ran it, there was an 8K Optimized too).
4k optimized only
RAM isn't much of a boost in 3dmark or superposition since those are GPU tests but it helps a lot on ryzen for some reason, on intel something something not infinity fabric and on ryzen something something everything is related to infinity fabric which runs at ramspeed
tbh mine is decoupled, 1600 mCLK and 1833 fCLK
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/39175511?
another issue I guess is that my 3600 doesn't boost properly, and it's really badly binned. 1.375v ish stock (-20mV) for 39.5x - 40.5x.. 1.325v is maximum 'safe' voltage
edit: my stock XMP is 3000MHz C16
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Just now, Zando Bob said:
Comp between your result and mine: https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/8132273/spy/8393643#
Beanboozled as to how my CPU score was higher, the 3600 should be beating it even at slightly lower clocks due to the better IPC.
mine was done at i think XMP memory
my 3600 seems to be a shitty performer, but oh well, it's still 2-3x faster in games than my 3770k
why the fuck is 1080p extreme harder to run than 4k?
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2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:
Oho, I do need to look into the powertable mods. Should test and see how much faster it is in games (what I actually use it for) with a VRAM OC to see if that's even worth it though. I got a 9635 in Time Spy at ~2030 core, 9835 with the same core and +200 on the HBM, so it does make a decent difference in benches. Pulled the 4th highest result (am the second highest user, top 3 spots are held by the same guy) in TimeSpy for my CPU/GPU combo with that and my 5820K. Will have to install Superposition when I get home tonight.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/8132273
8 996 graphics score, the HBM OC helps me in games with the lows but not the averages
that's with my everyday OC, I'll go run 3dmark and superposition 1080p extreme in a bit
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5 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:
Oooooooo you have an RVII as well?
I should see what mine does in Superposition, I've only benched it in Time Spy, I can push mine to around 2030Mhz core so far, probably a bit higher with more voltage (I think I was at 1.15-1.2 or so). How do you push higher than +200 on the HBM, Wattman only allows +200 and I haven't checked to see if Afterburner lets me push it higher or not.you need powertable mod
there's one that allows you go +100MHz more on the memory (1300 total) but going any more requires to use the ones that force more voltage (as far as I know)
I made one (just figured out which lines were different from the vanilla one, then changed the values to be larger) just so I can reach 1337GB/s bandwidth
I don't run it very overclocked because if I wanted to do that, I need waterblock, I have a big voltage wall at ~1900MHz
I run 1070mV / 1880MHz core, and 1000MHz mem (I heard that HBM doesn't like being overclocked, I don't game much anyways and I want this card to last as looooooooooong as possible)
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17 hours ago, Masada02 said:
Dang, that might be slightly faster than my VII...
Is that with a water block?
no, air, no repaste, no washer mod.
my card is really shit binned and really shitty at clocking high, but that doesn't mean i can't shove 1200mV vcore, 100% fanspeed and 1950MHz to get a high score at 110c tjunction.
my regular scores are ~8000-8100, stock should be about ~79000
my normal is 1070mV for 1880MHz.
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some acer 1080p display from ~2008, it's surprisingly very good still (compared to my laptop displays)
some asus WUXGA display from ~2006-2007, it's a bit dim now but it's been used everyday
some asus 1080p display from ~2011-2012, I used to use this as my main but gave it to my dad
my main display is close, it's a 4k display released in 2014/2015 but I bought it in 2016, it's very good and still A+ tier just because of it's insane contrast / blacks (5000:1 NOT DYNAMIC), alongside being a 4k display
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0 issues. I run a 3600 (PBO disabled) with a VII and it's fine for all of my games. even my 3770k was somewhat alright if you maxed out the game graphics and resolution and didn't touch CPU post processing , and the 3770k is about a 2200g/2400g
Dual channel, different number of sticks but same capacity?
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it should work in dual channel (as in, there is nothing logical about it not working) but you never know until you try it. some memory controllers/boards will just crap out on you despite it supposed to be working. neither the ranks per channel or capacity per channel should matter